"kick" question

strange question......
today i tested my b2 similar bandpass sub with different types of music again..
i just used 1 mt112 top and 1 b2 bandpass.
no kick-bin or midbass or sth like that above.
put the lowpass filter at 60hz and 48db/oct,
high pass of the top at 150hz 48db/oct.
while i was listening to the kickdrum or kickbass of the music i noticed
that there was a very GREAT KICK while standing close in front of the box!

i always hear people say the "kick" is comming from a kick cab and the sub from the sub cab.

eg the x1/hd15 combo, or lab/usb.......
but both of the sub/kick combos are recommend to cross at 80hz or sth like that.


i put a few questions about the speed and kick from low bass cabs like
lab/12pi or long 18inch horns but noone answered me, just always"kick is comming from a.........."
but why i felt a GREAT DEEP KICK with frequencies under 60hz too?!!?

legs, stomack, everywhere...it was my purpose to let the frequencies over 60hz away
to test the kick under 60hz.
it was not a hard short kick like these frequencies round 80-100hz of hard dance music...
but a great deep kick u could feel hard too and punching a lot of air.
as i went more away from the box the kick disappeared.
neighbours have little children so couldnt drive so much power

im asking me if some cabs are better
or maybe specially not so good for these kind of "deep" kick than others
21", 18", LAB, 12"subs?
subs with a high bl and low qms/qts, or if it depends on the construction?

Opinions?

Statements?

Perception of kick occurs at any frequency range from the very bottom end up to 250Hz as long as the impulse response is very fast, therefor the transient oscillation (engage/die) characteristics (slew rate) must me very short as well as the group delay has to be ideally constant.

Ibex wrote: Perception of kick occurs at any frequency range from the very bottom end up to 250Hz as long as the impulse response is very fast, therefor the transient oscillation (engage/die) characteristics (slew rate) must me very short as well as the group delay has to be ideally constant.

Which it won't be if you're using 48dB slopes

@ conanski: I think thats a very good explanation! Its also the same like
Ibex said with the group delay so i think it should be true

Unfortunately i have no comparison to other subs, but,
if u delay your system as good as possible,
is it possible that u can reach with some subs/horn subs
in generell (so in deep frequencies too)
a better kick than with others?
(specially related to lab/12pi in comparison to 18inch horn subs...)

@hond:
no, it was good with rock music, some pop,
partially with drum n bass but there is often
a deep bass tone/line that is mixed louder and deeper as the kick part.
especially worse was it with techno coz there
was always a long delay in the deep bass frequencies(kick),
and the kick was not very precise,
it  sounded with techno more like a deep bass tone.

I just use the term kick cab or kick horn to describe a  mid-bass speaker playing just the region between about 90Hz and 400Hz.  Of course I feel the kick out side of these ranges, part of the kick drum sound is well into the midrange and sub.