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    Posted: 16 July 2010 at 10:18pm
considering that punishers wont go much lower than 45hz, are there any other
proofed plans out for ciare 12.00 sw to go lower???
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote airbell Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 July 2010 at 10:28pm
thanks for the quick answer djyves!
but i am actually looking more for a pa speaker with (at least almost) the same output as the punisher but more low end, longer horn ect...
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EAW BH760 kind of box would work great with the 12.oo sw

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote airbell Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 July 2010 at 4:34pm
simulated it with hornresp, but without modifications it doesnt look so well...
has anybody built it yet, or sth similar as the bh760 with ciare and already tested?
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You should play a little with the back chamber and the throat figures.
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i was going to suggest a 12" version of the TAS Sub.  i am having one built right now for testing.  small mouth area limits resp down to around 50-55hz in a field.  in a corner i cant imagine any other similarly sized 12" loaded horn going as loud and low in singles (according to hornresp).  place a pair in a v-plate arrangement outside and im seeing some rather tasty predictions indeed  
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote airbell Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 August 2010 at 12:07am
i saw the posts about the tas sub and the monolith....what a piety that there are no reasonable measurements out yet.i am very interested in the design coz when i play with hornresp and the ciare it seems like there is a limiting factor for the max. spl / going low relation to size.maybe you already saw this
http://forum.speakerplans.com/ciare-12sw-horn_topic40106.html
what a piety that noone was interested to write/talk more about this, coz im pretty sure that here are some people that knows a lot about loudspeaker physics and could predict pretty well if its a good idea or not.
from what i think yes, only the compression rate makes me worry, but maybe the ciare could take it as it is a pretty small speaker with a quite stiff membrane and a good motor system.

tell us more about your 12" TAS version please.did you do some tests yet?
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no tests.  just basic modelling.  looks good corner loaded - which is often a option in pubs where small pa's are used.  i have to say, from the pics i have been sent of the mini TAS being built, its not as compact as i imagined.  check my thread on the new projects forum..  
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