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    Posted: 07 November 2006 at 1:22pm
I was wondering what would be better for bass/ sub bass in a small car such as peugeot 206 or a vauxhall corsa. would i be better using the vibe designed twin 12" band pass box http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/yhst-91559291991768_1918_10795505
or the death box designed on decware audio. http://www.decware.com/newsite/mainmenu.htm
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Decware IMO. I would if i could.

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sorry the links ddnt work im not so gd at tht 
so u reckon the decware will go deeper. play louder and generally be better than the vibe box? any suggestions what to load this with for reasonably priced good performance?
sorry for all the questions just want it to sound good!
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with the Decware i'm sure you'll have great sound quality without much port noise. the way i see it, i think you'l have a better full sound quality from the decware, but you'l have more punch with the Vibe.

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Could i make up for this by using 10 or 12" ported cabs running above the deathbox? thus covering the higher range of punch? im thinking of using pro 6" drivers with piezo horns/compression drivers rather than 6x9's.  
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you could do that, but when it comes to the inside fo the vehicle, you might as well have you'r fullrange drivers to take care of everything from 80hz and up. the use of piezos should be alright but using horns and CD's is a little harder. theres a company that i've heard of that makes bent CD horns so that you can put them under the dash, but thats just the problem right there, they are goin under the dash... unlike bass thats omni directional, the CD's are directed to you'r legs at that point and show no performance to you so you might as well just stick with component tweeters. if you must, use the 10s in sealed kick panels on you'r front doors to bring out a little more of the kick.
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also, if you'r goign to use pro 6" drivers, make sure you have a high power multi channel full range amplifier that runs atleast 4ohm x2 channle.
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I'm thinking of maybe not using the death box and just a neat ported, sealed box. However my budget is low and now need to find a driver that will kick the sh*t out of my car and go low for a gd price without a big box taking up all my room.

What do you think of what I have found: (however if any of these drivers would work well in a death box please say so!)

http://www.visaton.com/en/chassis_zubehoer/tiefton/w300s_8.html
http://www.visaton.com/en/chassis_zubehoer/tiefton/tiw300_8.html (I can get this one for £150)


Also does anyone know (toxic?) how to get hold of soundstream reference series subs in the UK and waht sort of price?
 
Any suggestions for performance upto £200 MAX? preferably kick and sub extension all in one but may consider 3 way system. I.e sub bass, bass, mid/tops.


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Originally posted by Matt2083 Matt2083 wrote:




Also does anyone know (toxic?) how to get hold of soundstream reference series subs in the UK and waht sort of price?
 


 
are you looking for the normal reference stuff or the R1?
 
if it's the R1... Good luck...
 
 
 
as for your system settup, have your subs take care of everything from what ever the lowest point you want upto 80/100hz. after that, you could use some powerful 8" or 10" kicks and if the right ones, all you need after that are component highs. but at that point, you're going to be spending some money...
 
a settup i'm workin on which has been draining my pockets, dual JBL GTI subs, 4x JBL 10" 2012H kicks and 8x JBL P25T component highs. subs - 30hz to 100hz, kicks - 100hz to 3.5khz, components - 3.5khz to 20khz.
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ok change of plan as im not exactly loaded! is there a driver that can do abotu 30hz and still have enough kick? then i just use some sort of mid/hi after it. Also any comment on the drivers I put the link to? i thought they look alrite for the price?
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Sorry for all these questions! but which do u think is best out of:
http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/product/products_id/4605.html
http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/product/products_id/3839.html
http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/product/products_id/1006.html
(I would probably use two of the JBL GT4-12's)
either that or I would use:

http://www.visaton.com/en/chassis_zubehoer/tiefton/tiw300_8.html
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personaly i would go with either the JBL or the infinity being that infinity is a JBL brand, simular to Toyota and Scion, Scion is Toyota.
 
as for your earlier question, sub loads in vehicle wont really go past 100/150hz. after that point you need to cross to the rest of your mid/high system. bass is omni directional up until about 80 hz or so. you can get away with crossing as high as 150hz but i wouldn't go any higher.
 
if you don't mind spending the extra cash, a pair of JBL W12GTI will give you your low end EASY. even in sealed enclosures, they don't need a highpass anywhere at all as long as you don't plan on sending more then 1000watt to each driver in a sealed enclosure. a pair of these should get you... near 130db in the vehicel in sealed boxes. in a vented enclosure you could see near 145db.
 
personaly, i'll be using a pair of W12GTI in sealed enclsosures. i had an idea for vented but it's going to be too dificult so i had a change in plans. highpass them at 25hz with 2db boost gain at cuttoff *if you use one of JBL's BPX series amps* on a BPX2200.1, even at full volume nothing will have problems. Xmax, VAs, overpowering, underpowering... nothing, just tight clean bass.
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