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    Posted: 25 July 2017 at 10:39pm
Does anyone have any experience when outside companies/Councils come and install limiters on to their racks and what is the correct way to set up the input gains/ Mixer Levels (with and without any Main Desk).

Understandable every limitor will act differently!

I have been experimenting with a friend who comes to install the limiter in one of our events to try and find the best solution with the most basic setup as im tired off the drop of sound when the beat drops, so a solution we tried was to max out the A+H (full prostitution/Red light District) set the limiter and make sure the Djs didn't go over board so we don't get that annoying delayed limit when the bass drops.

We have a 95db limit (Hotel Rooftop)

Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated!!
Thanks so much lovely SP people's

Edited by sureal25 - 25 July 2017 at 10:40pm

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Use an automatic gain control unit such as the Drawmer SL22 instead of a limiter, to avoid bus pumping. It will simply prevent the system going louder than your designated limit.

Also, a system such as 10EaZy with the display in the booth can really help the DJs keep to the limit and save some decibels for their big tracks or set moments. The traffic light setup on that platform is amazing, if your artists aren't complete nobs then they'll appreciate being able to see the information and work with the limit instead of running into it constantly.

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Originally posted by sureal25 sureal25 wrote:

We have a 95db limit (Hotel Rooftop)

Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated!! 


95dB where? On the dance floor? On the street below? On somebody's balcony that overlooks the hotel rooftop?

Don't book redlight DJs for a rooftop gig with a 95dB limit. Seriously.. these guys will never be happy with that sound level so you're fighting a losing battle.

Remove all the subs from the rooftop sound system. This might sound daft but if the system can't produce any thump the DJ will give up trying to make it. These low frequencies are most likely to be the source of a noise complaint but are not picked up by the average handheld SPL meters and that usually leads to even lower SPL limits when the current limits appear to be ineffective.

Install/use a DJ mixer with a digital output and use that exclusively to feed the PA which has a dedicated limiter that the DJs have no access to.


Edited by Conanski - 26 July 2017 at 12:08am
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toastyghost suggests very good thing.
We're working without limiter on subs just setting mixing console level at -6 -12db to prevent preamps cliping and adjusting processor gain at -3db of console maximum so nobody can reach this value. It's easier than make all djs understand what means 0 +3 )
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