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jngggggggg
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Posted: 06 September 2017 at 10:21pm |
is anyone aware of modified hog plans that can play to 30hz *flat* without requiring group loading? would love to talk to someone that either has this already or could help me mod the existing plan.. thanks!
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_djk_
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"without requiring group loading?"
Group loading reduces size for ease of transport. Building a single 30hz horn might just be a bit too big to move (insert smiley face). |
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jngggggggg
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But it also means that I need 6 scoops (for example) to get down low where as I may be going to venues that only require 2 subs to fill the room. I want the flexibility in that sense.
And just so it isn't brought up again, I am aware of othorns but am after a hog variant as I really like the look ( :3) |
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"But it also means that I need 6 scoops (for example) to get down low
where as I may be going to venues that only require 2 subs to fill the
room. I want the flexibility in that sense."
You need to get an MBA. Did you know that people with an MBA are able to change the laws of physics by a factor of 0.1X (or 10X), depending on which works better for them? There is a reason why a 500hz JBL 2360 HF horn is 32" x 32" x 32" (without the driver). Horns are great, if you have a truck to move them, and the venue is big enough to use them. A tapped horn may be a good compromise for some. It is not actually horn loaded in the region we are using it, and thus follows different rules that a horn does. Horns can reach 50% efficiency (in theory), reflex can reach 25%. That is only a 3dB difference. The flexibility offered for small venues may be what you need. Two drivers that are 4% efficient will be 8% in a dual driver box, two boxes will be 16%, three boxes will be 25% (the theoretical maximum). My 30hz PPSL is 101dB/W/1M (8%), two boxes are 107dB/2.83V/1M (16%), three boxes are 110dB/2.83V/1M (25%). Most of the time they are used in pairs, so they are 107dB/2.83V/1M, -3dB at 30hz, and a nominal 4Ω load (easy on the amp). Three boxes are 110dB, and a nominal 2.7Ω load (requires a good 2Ω rated amp, which will rum well on the 2.7Ω load). Edited by _djk_ - 07 September 2017 at 11:00pm |
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AndyWave
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Does my "Miss Piggy" count? sensitivity starts to drop at 33Hz when used outside, but it is usable to 25-28Hz inside (and with limiters and HP filter) preferably near room corner. Driver Void-18-V1000. Big and heavy, about 130kg bugger. Dimensions with skids on the bottom H x W x D 126 x 63.6 x 122 cm sims with void18-V1000 and 18sound 18LW2500 https://forum.speakerplans.com/1x18-tapped-horn_topic39552_page4.html regards, Andy edit. not 636 but 63.6 cm Edited by AndyWave - 16 September 2017 at 9:24am |
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Sinai Sound
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OTHorn?
Not a modified hog, but well Also, does it NEED to play that low?
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jngggggggg
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Thanks Andy I will have a look after work. And othorn is option Sinai but tbh I just don't like their look (bad excuse sorry.......)
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I'm just now fixing pic links in my thread because of photobucket cr*p, uploading 'em to speakerplans....
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Sinai Sound
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I actually know what you mean Scoops / hogs look a bit "meaner" than a tapped horn
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Yeah. The only good part about the othorn is that you can tag the front XP
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If you build 4x Superscoops, and load them with Void V18-1000, and power them with proper, proper amp, like Void Infinite 8 MK2 or better, you could HPF them at 35hz/18db slope, and most people would find sub, not lacking anything at all. |
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