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godathunder
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Posted: 07 November 2013 at 8:43pm |
Ive not seen burke for a couple of years now but he used to run a marshall major pretty much flat out through a pair of 1x18 vox foundation cabs for small pub gigs.
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LOUDER THAN LOUD
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jazomir
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Posted: 07 November 2013 at 9:18pm |
John, if you do put a book together or even an historical blog, do it via the States - the libel laws over there are such that even if there is a grain of truth in the statements you make, then there is no case to answer. Publish and be damned!
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For sidefills, can we have two enormous things of a type that might be venerated as Gods by the inhabitants of Easter Island, capable of reaching volumes that would make Beelzebub soil his pants.
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bee
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Posted: 07 November 2013 at 9:39pm |
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robbo why not start your own thread, talk about a memory or event, the chat from us guys from it will lead the way for you to tell us more.
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https://www.elements-audio.com
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GregM
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Posted: 08 November 2013 at 8:42am |
What he said......
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Remember, if you don't want to hear the answer, don't ask the question!
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Nachural
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Posted: 08 November 2013 at 9:46am |
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Come on John, indulge us. Its interesting stuff and could get lost in the mists of time without your contributions!
Having said that, I suspect Jazomir and a few other guys on here may have a story or two to tell also.....
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it's all just cardboard and magnets really
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madboffin
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Posted: 08 November 2013 at 9:58am |
Given that the scandal-mongers and no-win-no-fee lawyers are now trawling the country for former groupies and their stories, some care may be needed. The technical history has yet to be properly written up. The technology usually just gets superficial mention, as an aside in articles about the acts. There's bits of stuff scattered around the internet and in ancient magazine articles but nobody has drawn it all together. A serious history of the equipment and practice of touring technology would be quite interesting. There's some quite funny (and very Aussie) stuff here though: http://www.dunkworld.com/ODTFTR.htm |
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jazomir
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Posted: 10 November 2013 at 12:37am |
Unfortunately, I wasn't involved directly with the biz from an early age. I realised that there was little return for lots of involvement (rather like running a restaurant, which I also considered for some time) and ended up in the IT business instead. I was lucky enough, however, to have lots of good friends in both the music biz & the techy world who for quite some while provided access to gigs/gear/bands/stories etc so was able to keep abreast of things both on a personal level and a tech level including working with bands until one by one, pretty much everyone I knew dropped out of the biz and got sensible (and often very lucrative) work in the real world. I still have links to people in the industry, but don't name names though I still hear new and amusing stories from times gone by which never cease to amuse & amaze even me - these I am quite happy to pass on, as I am with knowledge gleaned over the years.
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For sidefills, can we have two enormous things of a type that might be venerated as Gods by the inhabitants of Easter Island, capable of reaching volumes that would make Beelzebub soil his pants.
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Daniel S
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Posted: 05 January 2014 at 1:38pm |
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Being from Sweden I found the ABBA reference a bit interesting. I googled around a bit and found this transcript of an interview with the main sound engineer for ABBA's tours, Claes "Clabbe" Of Geijerstam where it's confirmed they used an Electrosound Turbo rig: http://www.gearslutz.com/board/3729637-post47.html In the interview there's talk of a Harwell PA system as well. I've never heard of those before but got a little curious and didn't find much more than a few notes and a couple of pics. Does anybody have more info on the Harwell system?
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cravings
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Posted: 05 January 2014 at 1:45pm |
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there have been quite a few threads on here about "tasco harwell"...
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APC321
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Posted: 05 January 2014 at 8:20pm |
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I found the following in an old International Musician Guide dated 1985.
" The system was designed by Roger Harvey who has given Tasco an exclusive worldwide license for its use. It consists of a folded horn bass unit containing a pair of Guass 15" drivers front and rear loaded to bring the useful response down to around 30Hz; a low mid-cabinet which takes over at 200Hz and contains two peripherally loaded 12" JBL drivers; and a single high mid and high cabinet containing a pair of JBL 2441 both driving a single diffuser looking not unlike a large version of the famous JBL bullet, feeding into a fiberglass horn, and crossing over into four JBL 075." The old address for Tasco was 115-125 Lambeth Road London SE1. I found this on the old Ratsound website in America: "Rat Sound Newsletter December 1999 OK, so it has been a really long time since the last Rat Newsletter and a lot has been going on. First and foremost, we are proud to announce that Rat Sound is now the proud owner of a legendary PA system (http://ratsound.com/pictures/harwell.jpg). Recently at an auction of sound and light equipment we were extremely fortunate to acquire 10 stacks of Tasco/Harwell PA. To give you an idea of the magnitude of this equipment take a look at these sizes: Rat Trap 5 - dual 15”, dual 10”, 2”, 1” occupies 9.5 cu ft of truck space V-Dosc - dual 15”, quad 7”, dual 2” occupies 12 cu ft of truck space Harwell - dual 15”, dual 12” dual 2”, quad bullet occupies a whopping 80 cu ft of truck space! That is over 10 times the truck space! Unbelievable, unequaled and some say is the loudest PA ever. The Harwell System is the PA that embraces all the theories we sought to disprove and here we are 19 years later owning one. We have given up and are throwing in the towel, we sold out. Well, actually we are enjoying dismantling it and are selling off the components, except that we intend on hanging on to two complete stacks for historical and sentimental value. The idea is to have these ominous monoliths as working gargoyles to ward off the evil PA spirits when and if we ever get a new shop. " I think a company in London called KSS might have a couple of the mid / high horns, but this was many years ago. |
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4AC
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Posted: 17 April 2015 at 1:45pm |
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Now take a look at this: http://link.marktplaats.nl/m920187119
They look like the same cabinetes, but empty now and without amps/processing. |
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Bams
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Posted: 17 April 2015 at 1:51pm |
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That's a shame, but understandable. he company which is selling is rather active in the netherlands since a few years. they are into buying/selling europewide. I bet you will see the speakers and amps popping up in small batches.
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