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    Posted: 11 September 2015 at 10:16am
Morning,

Know this has been done to death... but i've got a choice to make, so I'd like to ask for a bit of advice. Just after 2 x drivers for my hog scoops - i've searched around a bit and seems like for my budget I've got a choice of:

- 2 x 18 sound LW1400 (£180 each used)
- 2 x PD1850 (£200 each used)
- 2 x Void V18-1000 (£220 each new)

I've used the Voids before and been happy with them so tempted just to go with them, at moment the Hogs have t-nuts for the PD1850s so that is swaying me that way a little.

Main thing is which will sound best, i'll be playing reggae and dub through 'em.


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You could simulate your driver choices to see the predicted performance. The sound is a very subjective thing, what sounds best for me might not really be your thing at all.

My advise would be to go with the Void 1000 since you state that you have been happy with them. They also offer good value for money as new drivers are roughly in the same price bracket as the other two in used condition.

I know it's blasphemy to simulate (or measure Shocked) a scoop. But here https://www.freespeakerplans.com/forum/38-hosted-plans/5466-hog-scoop#13970 are the Hornresp inputs if you want to go that route...
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thanks for that all bass... i think your right, makes sense to get the new Voids

i know the 18sound are pretty much mint and the PD1850s though used have always been well looked after (no clipping etc).

if you go from the 6 hole spacing that i currently have in the hogs to the 8 hole that the voids use is it best to just put in some more t- nuts?
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Originally posted by renzelkouten renzelkouten wrote:

if you go from the 6 hole spacing that i currently have in the hogs to the 8 hole that the voids use is it best to just put in some more t- nuts?
I would rotate the driver so that you can use 8X new t-nuts.
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Experience has taught few of us, Scoop Sims don't line up with real life testing, in terms of freq resp/low end extension.

Hornresp stated Void V18-1200 would sound tremendous in ASS RX18, was actually awful/didn't work.
In right cab, driver was immense.

Would suggest you put flat head screws in PD tnuts, and as suggested previously, re-tnut baffle for standard 18" bolt pattern.

That way you can test drivers you are interested in. Or just revert back to PD bolt pattern for PDs.

V18-1000, will need outer edge of cut out widening.

I have some drivers for sale, which will out perform V18-1000/PD1850 in Scoops.

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Originally posted by levyte357- levyte357- wrote:

I have some drivers for sale, which will out perform V18-1000/PD1850 in Scoops.

PM for more details.Embarrassed
Are these drivers the new universal scoop driver? Or outperforming V18-1000 in hogs?
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Originally posted by all bass all bass wrote:

Are these drivers the new universal scoop driver? Or outperforming V18-1000 in hogs?


Some drivers excel in Scoops & FLH, others in Reflex.

Some drivers excel in some Scoop designs, and are mediocre in others.

Smart people, identify the right driver for their cab, based on desired freq resp, number of subs, music choice, sub amp output rating, and typical venue power supply. Embarrassed


Edited by levyte357- - 11 September 2015 at 1:14pm
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Im gonna play the game and not gonna mention the name of the drivers (but im probably guessing correctly which one Lev is talking about ) .

If i am , i have six hogs loaded with them and they kick butts. Pure sub sound,not so warm but immense pressure and spl and i like the sound its really really clean and sharp. Suits my current taste.

Hell,they even play techno nicely now LOL.


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Obertons maybe?


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Why are you idiots being so sodding secretive??

Just tell him the make and model of the driver your talking about and let a few other people try them out....



....i thought this forum was ment to be helpful. Its gettin more and more childish as time goes on.
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I always found the secrecy around scoop and sscoop drivers hilarious,excuse me. And yes im talking about xb1500.
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