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    Posted: 15 April 2018 at 2:16pm
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Originally posted by junoprobelaunch junoprobelaunch wrote:

Hi I've completed building my first hog scoop and am then planning another three and then four 21 inch tha W bins or four super bass horns. I remember reading somewhere that it would be less efficient having different cabinet designs loaded with same size drivers so am leaning towards the tha W bins. wanting to put two USB bass bins on top of these aswell. has anyone got a similar setup or has heard the bins that can advise me on how they would sound? looking to play hard tek, drum n bass  minimal bassline and Neurofunk 

You read that in your other thread about hogs and invaders. So instead of heeding the advice you've decided to go even more left field with hogs and 21" w bins or sbhs.
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Originally posted by junoprobelaunch junoprobelaunch wrote:

I remember reading somewhere that it would be less efficient having different cabinet designs loaded with same size drivers
No.. you completely misunderstood what was stated, it is not advised to mix different types of cabinets in the same frequency range of a sound system.. doesn't matter what size driver is used. So pick a single type of sub and build as many as you need, then move on to kicks and pick 1 design for those, then mids, and so on all the way up the stack.
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'Not advised' is putting it too lightly. 

If you're planning a new system build, never mix different enclosure types on the same frequency band.

Literally the only times it should ever happen is in link-ups or other situations where you don't have the luxury of choosing your enclosure designs.

Unless the case here is that the OP is thinking of building 'subs' to go underneath Hogs for that last few Hz LOL Equally silly. Hogs are subs. You don't need more subs.


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A Shorter horn path just means higher frequency cut-off. A shorter horn design may also be more suited to faster music, but you can have a short horn kick and a long horn sub and get the best of both worlds - the kick band (and the harmonics above it) is where most of the perception of speed comes from anyway.

The faster the music, the less pronounced the low notes will tend to be, but the low frequency content will still be present in many tracks. I like the example of 'Tron', a psytrance producer often playing around 145-148bpm, but plenty of strong 30-40Hz content in many of his tracks. It may not be typical but if you don't account for outliers then your system won't do them justice.

Reproducing the very low notes can reduce the perception of speed, but if that's what you're hoping to achieve you can adjust your high pass, but you can't do it the other way around. Think of it as frequency response headroom.

You make the decision to sacrifice that by leaving the sub bass out of your system design, so it's not about how short it 'should' be, it's about making the choice of what you're most willing to sacrifice: Pack space/weight, or full range sound reproduction.

Depending on the primary genre, the balance of priorities between the two shifts, but genre is only one factor in making that choice.


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I love all this don't mix shit stuff. Back in the day (yawn) systems like Metek, Desert Storm, United systems, Spiral, FKY etc! on and on . Used to just pile up what ever they had or had nicked that week. Great great partys. Puritans hey!
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There's a completely separate set of constraints for putting on a party like that though - you take what you can get (and what you could feasibly replace if you lost it, which will have happened before to people running sound for those names - once burnt, twice shy etc).

Those events are all about the high. Chemically of course, but also logistically - the logistical high is what makes them such appropriate conveyances for the chemical high: mad locations, a stack that looks like a prop from the background of a Star Wars movie, somehow managing to consistently pull together a lineup of DJs and artists that their following all worship into one place (and managing to pull together that following into the same place - the familiar faces who miraculously seem to make it to every party), and somehow not getting shut down despite the outrageous illegality of almost everything going on there.

If you can manage to get a well balanced system on top of all that, well that's the cherry on the cake, but the cake is what you came for and it's amazing even without the cherry.


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