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Pasi 
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 Posted: 05 November 2017 at 6:07pm |
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https://www.facebook.com/groups/bassaz/permalink/1864509043564214/ “For the record, I’m always honest” he said... Does an honest man really need to say that.?
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dylan-penguinmedia
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Posted: 05 November 2017 at 6:31pm |
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https://youtu.be/4rMmeVWZ8sE
This thing looks really British! Loving the green screened Union Jack backdrop...
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JonB67
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Posted: 05 November 2017 at 7:25pm |
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I love that he thinks that's going to pump out anything in the 20hz range (about halfway though when he's extolling the virtues of its 5 band equaliser)
 I will give credit where it due and say at least he's getting stuff made even if its the lower end of the market. The bullshit and lies grate though. If his products are that much better than the competition then he should fund an independent a to b shoot out against the competition, video it and put that up on YouTube. It would be better advertising and actually gey some respect. |
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dylan-penguinmedia
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Posted: 05 November 2017 at 8:34pm |
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Always got time for people getting out there and 'doing it', respect the hard work it takes to make something work these days.
But the marketing bollocks as you say really grates, it's just a budget trouser that's wider at the bottom...
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woody2
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Posted: 05 November 2017 at 11:25pm |
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I'll wait till my clients start asking for them over L-Acoustics before ordering
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SamV
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Posted: 06 November 2017 at 1:14pm |
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What grates me the most is the aspect ratio of the union jack on his logo.
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Posted: 06 November 2017 at 2:42pm |
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The man obviously has business savvy and he's not ashamed to push the borders of acceptable business practice to succeed.
The thing is, short of a bunch of people turning up and saying "I bought stuff from Bishopsound and thought it was terrible/poor value for money/it broke after a week/etc", or some absolutely off the wall false advertising (false published T/S parameters or plots ie), there's not much you can legitimately say that doesn't amount to petty sideline bitching, which just amplifies his signal to the market. To me it seems a calculated delivery of the lowest acceptable level of quality for a product that will be used in professional applications - An area Behringer also shoots at. Some might say it dips beneath that level, but would need to substantiate that claim. You've got the swamp of Soundlabs and QTX and QFX and so on, the real race to the bottom with a faceless brand and zero accountability to the customer, they're the real sharks imo - firewood merchants. Yes people on ultra-low budgets should buy used or DIY or find a way to increase their budget, but that just isn't always an option, so people in that position need something. He seems to be able to deliver a 21" neo bass driver for 249 quid inc VAT, with published T/S params that are world's apart from what the price would suggest. https://bishopsound.com/shop/21-replacement-neodymium-speaker-2000w-rms-sub-bass-woofer-4��-bwn21/ The price point and published params make it hard not to ask "well, how bad can it be?". Yes it's a blatant B&C ripoff by a Chinese clone factory, no doubt, but it's not pretending to be B&C, and I'm sure mechanically it doesn't match any existing B&C driver. If it had an original or generic cast chassis design it would be 100% above board and I'm sure it won't be long before the knock-off factories start producing their own chassis designs. If I was that way inclined I could design a chassis and go to one of these factories and produce a line for the same price that to all external appearances seemed like a 100% original piece of design and manufacturing. Only a matter of time before some brands pop up doing just that.
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Posted: 07 November 2017 at 8:29am |
Just to stick up for F1 the 8” driver in the F81 is not mega expensive. It’s actually cheaper to buy than nearly every branded 8” on the market. The F81 is not particularly expensive compared to other branded speakers and does sound nice for a small box. |
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KDW32
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Posted: 07 November 2017 at 11:19am |
seeing a union jack on a fist always reminds me of bnp / Britain first rubbish tbh.
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Elliot Thompson
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Posted: 07 November 2017 at 12:41pm |
The better you have a full understanding of TS Parameters, the more you can getaway with things that the average Do It Yourself builder cannot. Matters are worse for those who buy quantity. They have the power to commission customised TS Parameters for their requirements. The average Do It Yourself builder does not take the time to measure the TS Parameters of the drivers they have invested in.
Where the components are made does not hold a factor providing the components meets up to the manufacturer’s requirements. The average Do It Yourself builder are the ones that are going to pay premium prices from a loudspeaker manufacture that is promoting raw loudspeakers on their website.
It is similar to Computers. The Computer literate user will build a Computer or buy a used Computer with no Operating System at a very low price and, customise the Computer to their requirements. The average Computer user will buy a brand new Computer at premium price despite, losing all its value within 6 months and, deal with all the bloatware.
In the States, there are many companies that fall within the Bishop Sound realm that have been around for decades. These companies generally use components made off-shore and promote their product for a particular clientele. Speakers still needs to be heard to reach a conclusion if they pleasing to your ear or they are not worth investing. Something that is lost ever since the Internet Boom Market took place.
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https://bishopsound.com/news/bishopsound-customers-love-behringer-inuke-amplifiers/
"One of the reasons that the iNuke are so good and reliable is that I am certain the Lab Gruppen engineers have cast an eye over the design and made a few tweaks."
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Posted: 07 November 2017 at 2:45pm |
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