KAM KSM1600 Vertical Smoke Machine

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   KAM KSM1600 Vertical Smoke Machine  
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390014830484&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:Watchlink:middle:uk 

what do people think of these?? 
any one had any use of these?
im have no Knowledge of lighting ect what do people think of the vertical foggers i personaly like lots of thick fog so you cnt see any munters and you get to blind them with strobes 

or even these the one up

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/KAM-KSM-DMX-1750-1750-WATT-DMX-SMOKE-MACHINE_W0QQitemZ160332297424QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CE_DJ_equip_SmokeMachines_atmospherics_ET?hash=item160332297424&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1690%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A3%7C294%3A50

Edited by chemicalabuse - 08 May 2009 at 10:13pm

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chemicalabuse Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Registered User Joined: 19 August 2008 Location: Manchester Status: Offline Points: 236	Post Options Post Reply Quote chemicalabuse Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: KAM KSM1600 Vertical Smoke Machine Posted: 08 May 2009 at 9:59pm
	KAM KSM1600 Vertical Smoke Machine http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390014830484&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:Watchlink:middle:uk what do people think of these?? any one had any use of these? im have no Knowledge of lighting ect what do people think of the vertical foggers i personaly like lots of thick fog so you cnt see any munters and you get to blind them with strobes or even these the one up http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/KAM-KSM-DMX-1750-1750-WATT-DMX-SMOKE-MACHINE_W0QQitemZ160332297424QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CE_DJ_equip_SmokeMachines_atmospherics_ET?hash=item160332297424&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1690%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A3%7C294%3A50 Edited by chemicalabuse - 08 May 2009 at 10:13pm

norty303 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Old Croc Joined: 18 August 2004 Location: Eastbourne Status: Offline Points: 8806	Post Options Post Reply Quote norty303 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 May 2009 at 3:05am
	All depends on where you want the smoke to go. Personally I use a big fan to disperse the fog quicker anyway so it's irrelevant whether it goes up or across
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chemicalabuse Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Registered User Joined: 19 August 2008 Location: Manchester Status: Offline Points: 236	Post Options Post Reply Quote chemicalabuse Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 May 2009 at 10:47am
	well it would prolly be used mostly at freepartys so i would just want to fill the area near the rig so would if fog the area where the smoke machine is placed well ?

norty303 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Old Croc Joined: 18 August 2004 Location: Eastbourne Status: Offline Points: 8806	Post Options Post Reply Quote norty303 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 May 2009 at 11:57am
	Think about it for a second.... IF you want to fill the dancefloor with smoke and you have a vertical smoke machine, where would you need to put the smoke machine? Thats right.. the dancefloor. And the fog would end up filling the air above it. A regular machine you keep with all your other kit and point towards the area you want filled. Edited by norty303 - 09 May 2009 at 11:57am
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chemicalabuse Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Registered User Joined: 19 August 2008 Location: Manchester Status: Offline Points: 236	Post Options Post Reply Quote chemicalabuse Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 May 2009 at 10:16pm
	okay i didnt know that i asumed that the fog would fall down to the dance floor ect so what would be a sutiable replacement? that can produce as much smoke??

norty303 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Old Croc Joined: 18 August 2004 Location: Eastbourne Status: Offline Points: 8806	Post Options Post Reply Quote norty303 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 May 2009 at 1:51pm
	Any other regular smoke machine of the same power rating. The KAM and any others should give you an indication on the spec of how much cuft/min or cu metres/min it can produce. Those are the numbers to compare. Thomann do a Stairville 1500 unit that is pretty good and cheap with it, and comes with DMX interface as well. http://www.thomann.de/gb/stairville_sf1500_nebelmaschine.htm
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chemicalabuse Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Registered User Joined: 19 August 2008 Location: Manchester Status: Offline Points: 236	Post Options Post Reply Quote chemicalabuse Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 May 2009 at 3:19pm
	hey thanks for the advice much apreciated i will look round and see what i can find =]