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    Posted: 08 May 2008 at 9:23pm
Figured I might as well make my own thread instead of hijacking someone elses'...

Anyway... after I'm done building my 2nd hog, I'll be looking at a kick bin to throw on top of them.  The hogs will be loaded with RCF L18P300's and I'm expecting them to singgggg when it comes to dubstep and dnb.  But I spin just as much electro/tech house aswell, so I am really looking for some SERIOUS kick.

I'm looking for a super tight, REALLY hard punchy feel...like I'm being shot in the chest with a 12 gauge every time the kick drum hits...:p  I've always loved setups with this type of severe kick and am looking for something to satisfy my fetishLOL

Plans I've been looking at are the ES18-BPH (2x) and the USB... But im wondering if the use of 18" woofers play too low for the kind of kick im looking for?  Also, I'm trying to stick with a dual driver bin and Void/PD is out of the question as I live in the states.

Any suggestions for plans/drivers to load them with?
I'm open to any and all suggestions, and thank you for reading :)


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hd15's / hd215  ??
easy to build and when loaded with eminence arn't bad!
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I was looking at the 215 but I was under the impression the USB/ES18-BPH sounds better and plays in the same frequency range....

Would the 215's be punchier?

I apologize for the newbish ness.... The hogs are my first build.
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hmmm id say es18-bph, with celestion's in, should be able to get them there,

should kick like a mule,,,
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you want somethng realy daft and hardcore as far as kick is concerned? sellenium hb1505c1!
in the general forum there was a thread called sellenium dual 15 kappa or something.
here it is
http://www.speakerplans.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16218
have a look it kind of got hijacked by me and turned into the 1505c1 instead of the 1502b1 but hey.
not much use below about 80hz by the looks but for kick,,,,, waaahaaaay!
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Originally posted by asaa00 asaa00 wrote:



I'm looking for a super tight, REALLY hard punchy feel...like I'm being shot in the chest with a 12 gauge every time the kick drum hits...:



USB has 2x18s, and has enough kick to decapitate.

Oh, and it works witb B&C drivers (18PZB100, 18PS100), which I think you can get in the states ?Wink
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Theory says that the HD15 should be a bit punchier by virtue of its less cone mass, but at the same time it moves less air so you will feel the effects less.
 
I own HD's and they are kicky with PD154 in, but as i haven't heard the USB or ES18 I can't comment on comparison.
 
Look at the driver sims in the HD15 section for a driver that is available to you and has the right shape curve.
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Originally posted by Markk James Markk James wrote:

you want somethng realy daft and hardcore as far as kick is concerned? sellenium hb1505c1!
in the general forum there was a thread called sellenium dual 15 kappa or something.
here it is
http://www.speakerplans.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16218
have a look it kind of got hijacked by me and turned into the 1505c1 instead of the 1502b1 but hey.
not much use below about 80hz by the looks but for kick,,,,, waaahaaaay!

Great! Thanks!

BTW, have you heard the USB/ES18-BPH/Turbosound 718?  If so, how does that selenium bin compare?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mark James Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 May 2008 at 10:14pm
errr, hmm have heard es18 a long time ago, have heard the hd too, difference realy is ones a horn and ones a band pass horn. the horn will probably have more transient response and be clearer, also band pass limits operating bandwidth, ie it has a band pass filter effect. so the horn should play heigher too, and its straighter! down side is it dont play as low so not much use on its own to be fair. its quite a bit bigger and heavier and its just a bit less practical. but hey thats how I like it to be honest!
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Quote hmm have heard es18 a long time ago, have heard the hd too, difference realy is ones a horn and ones a band pass horn
 
Maybe you're thinking of a different ES18BPH, its most definately a bandpass horn (BPH), as is the HD15.
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Originally posted by login4 login4 wrote:

hmmm id say es18-bph, with celestion's in, should be able to get them there,

should kick like a mule,,,
 
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having heard both HD's & ES18's i would say the HD is the winner if it comes down to size but the ES18 is the winner for overall SPL & kick.
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