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    Posted: 31 March 2009 at 2:50am
So the club I used to work at has the WS2A cabinets and trashed a driver in a cab. So they called me up asking if I knew what driver they use since they are no longer under warranty. I'm assuming that it's an RCF driver. So looking at the different RCF drivers, I see two that they could be; the L15P200AK or the LF15X400. Can someone help me out with this?
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Post a picture then.
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i'm not allowed to touch the cabs since I quit, they just want my advice on what driver to replace it with. They said they can see a tear in the cone, and that's all the more info I have, sorry I can't post pics, they really don't even want me in the place, management hates me. But being their sound engineer for 4 years prior to this, that's why they came to me for help.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DJkg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 March 2009 at 5:16am
Here's the output of the data that i've come up with, seems to match up fairly close to the specs on that cabinet. Also this was done assuming that it was at 3200 watts of power. Did this is WinISD:

Driver            : RCF L 15P200AK
Project by        : Kevin
Project for       :
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Number of drivers : 2
Box type          : Vented
Box size          : 6.680 ft^3
Tuning frequency  : 38.52 Hz
Vent              : 4 vent(s)
                    10.47 in length for each
                    4.00 in round
                                                            
                                                           
             Relative                                      
Freq         Gain         SPL                              
[Hz]         [dB]         [dB]                             
20.00        -23.77       109.29                           
25.00        -16.59       116.47                           
30.00        -11.13       121.94                           
35.00        -7.18        125.88                           
40.00        -4.64        128.42                           
45.00        -3.15        129.91                           
50.00        -2.31        130.75                           
55.00        -1.82        131.24                           
60.00        -1.50        131.56                           
65.00        -1.29        131.77                           
70.00        -1.13        131.93                           
75.00        -1.00        132.06                           
80.00        -0.90        132.16                           
85.00        -0.81        132.25                           
90.00        -0.74        132.32                           
95.00        -0.67        132.39                           
100.00       -0.62        132.44                           
 
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This may sound silly but if they hate you, won't let you in the venue, then I don't see why you should waste time helping them.  Point them in the direction of the nearest Martin Audio distributor or just guess the driver!
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Originally posted by ceharden ceharden wrote:

This may sound silly but if they hate you, won't let you in the venue, then I don't see why you should waste time helping them.  Point them in the direction of the nearest Martin Audio distributor or just guess the driver!

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Why are you asuming it's an off the shelf component?
 
There's every likelyhood that it's custom made for Martin Audio by RCF or any other manufacturer.
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I have some, but i'm massively busy, if i do get chance i'll have one out and find out unless you get something in the meantime.

However, that all said, i do agree with what others have said.

Personally, i'd find out what you can about the driver, and then call them and say, you can help them by replacing the driver for them. and charge them driver cost +30% + your labour costs at, whatever per hour.

People can start to take the piss very easily. And if you let them, they'll keep it up.
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Well I will say, management hates me, but the others don't, bartenders, security etc, we still get along fine, that's why i'm willing to help them.
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sounds similar to one of my clubs, run by idiots, yet the staff are all lovely.
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My mate has two pairs of these and is experiencing the same.They sound stunning but don't like too much juice.He is about to recone all his drivers in the 4 boxes due to them all slowly going down.Can pass his number on if you like?

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yeah, this isn't the first time they've trashed a woofer, but before it had always been under warranty, now that it isn't, that's why i'm looking for the driver. So your buddy that's reconing them, just you ask to see if he knows what driver they use? or the numbers on the driver? It would be much appreciated :) I don't plan on replacing the driver physically myself, i just want to let the club I used to work at what to buy and they can deal with it.

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