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    Posted: 15 March 2006 at 6:21am

How can i wire it so it is a two way speaker?

As in have the high pass xover in the box??

I'd like the box to end up 4 ohms so its cheaper in amps for it...

Is their anything wrong in doing it this way??

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You would have trouble finding a crossover that could handle the sort of power that you would need to run the MT122 properly. Also, the MT122 is a long throw design, and has a fairly narrow dispersion, so you would need a minimum of 2 cabinets per side for most events.

What type of event will the system be for? I would suggest the X15 might be a better option for you.

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Originally posted by whitehousejamie whitehousejamie wrote:

You would have trouble finding a crossover that could handle the sort of power that you would need to run the MT122 properly. Also, the MT122 is a long throw design, and has a fairly narrow dispersion, so you would need a minimum of 2 cabinets per side for most events.

What type of event will the system be for? I would suggest the X15 might be a better option for you.

I generally use my system in fields or old barns.

I'm only creating a side rig-playing breakcore electro jungle dub psy trance.

So i'd be better off buying a small amp just too run my high frequency driver?

I will have 4 HD15's And 2 X1's for bass.

Ive got an Caudio MR3001 to run the tops.

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I have been quoted 90 for an x12. But i need four of them really.

I was thking about to porn horn mids+ to high pass horns. But thats a wallet killer.

235 im hopefully going to pay for the mt122.No fittings paint.

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Speaking of power to feed these monsters. How much power is one talking about? I was wanting to build a pair of these and feed each cabinet with 500 watts. I think that would do, but since I am unsure, someone can tell me or straighten me out (get the pun on the straighten since it's all angles in the cabinets LOL). Correct me if I am wrong on this, but since this is a long throw cabinet, wouldn't it be correct to use this with horn type subwoofers and not an X1?



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You can alter the dispersion of the cab by changing the comp driver horn to a wider one.  The 12" is too low in frequency to effectively be guided by the horn (see DOm's polar plots of the Porn Horn to see this in effect and a better explanation).

I use 1/2 a MT122 (1x12" and 1xhorn) per side and it covers ok

Power wise i put 550w per 12" driver and 700w per horn section (but these don't ever run much more than -10db signal light on the mid and -20db signal light on the horn)



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700w into what would be an 80w@8ohm horn isnt that a bit excessive?

well ive giot am C Audio MR3001 its 625w@4ohm per channel.

The mid drivers themselves are 300w@8ohm .

Will run mids on one channel and horn on the other. That'll be ok wont it?

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Actually my tops are beyma 550 comp drivers with 2x fane slot tweeters, totalling about 250-300w at 8R.

Like i said, you don't run them hard but a nice big amp does sound good.

The C-audio should do the job but i use PLX3402's so it's that or buy another smaller amp (and why would i want to do that?!)

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Originally posted by Captain Caveman Captain Caveman wrote:

700w into what would be an 80w@8ohm horn isnt that a bit excessive?

well ive giot am C Audio MR3001 its 625w@4ohm per channel.

The mid drivers themselves are 300w@8ohm .

Will run mids on one channel and horn on the other. That'll be ok wont it?

Yes if you don't care about mono.

 

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Norty~

So this is a bi-amp'd cabinet? Controlling it is an ... ultradrive or a external crossover? So, this cabinet couldn't be made as a two way system to put with a subwoofer (to make it a 3 way system). Using 500 watts for the MT122?

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i have found some one recently who dod put a selenium passive crosover over in the box. But he said someything about the horn having to be a higher impendance thn the mid or you will loose power?

dunno what he meant.

No mono is fine. I only have one stack systems not split.

You dont do that kinda thing where im from

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Originally posted by Captain Caveman Captain Caveman wrote:

No mono is fine. I only have one stack systems not split.

You dont do that kinda thing where im from



i'll make sure i dont go to where your from then..

how in this day and age with all the technology we have around us,
can anyone get away with a completely mono rig!?
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