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    Posted: 23 March 2012 at 2:48am
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B&C 12PE32 or B&C 12ndl76?
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as i said last night ive used both, the ndl wins for me, very warm sound and it makes the box alot lighter.......
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ill dig a plott out of both drivers in the mt
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12pe32-freq- 50-4000k--250w--- 7.6kg--£131 each (Blue Aran price)

12ndl76-freq-50-2000k--400w---3.9kg---£239 each

Both are good drivers and the cost for me would determine which one I'll pick. Pe32 goes up higher.
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Originally posted by PISSHEAD PISSHEAD wrote:

12pe32-freq- 50-4000k--250w--- 7.6kg--£131 each (Blue Aran price)


12ndl76-freq-50-2000k--400w---3.9kg---£239 each

Both are good drivers and the cost for me would determine which one I'll pick. Pe32 goes up higher.



surely you would cross to c/d's well under 4k anyway??? I cross mine at 1.3k.
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Ya I think the 12ndl76 will do the trick... Thanks guys!
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Vibes, You can play the pe32 upto 4k and still cross your cd at 1.3k using a BSS minidrive.
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Bee, I know you said you like the 12ndl76 better, at which crossover type/slope did you use?
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Originally posted by PISSHEAD PISSHEAD wrote:

Vibes, You can play the pe32 upto 4k and still cross your cd at 1.3k using a BSS minidrive.



oh i agree it can be played up to 4k, as you can with many drivers including the bms 12's that i use. but my question related more to the fact of how efficient will any 12" driver be at 4k??? More efficient than a compression driver??? I dont think so.

I cross my cd at 1.3k but play my 12's upto 2.5ish with a little bit of eq on the 12's around the crossover point because they start to roll off around 2k even though they can apparently play upto 4k according to the specs. they will of course hit 4k but just not better than a cd so it just seems rather pointless. please don't consider my post as critisism as i'm no proffesional, it's just my opinion after running mt's for a couple of years.
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@pisshead where are you based in the midlands?
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Vibez, you overlap the 12 and the HF? Which BMS you use?
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how can they overlap if it doesn't meet the comp in the first place? Wacko

view this graph for a double

http://forum.speakerplans.com/topic15865&KW=MT122_post153570.html#153570



Edited by mykey- - 24 March 2012 at 12:17pm
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