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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote concept-10 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 June 2019 at 6:52pm
The 12lx60v2 is a brilliant driver, I use a lot of them in our tapped horns, some drivers do have an advantage in certain areas, however are they as physically strong, the beyma is a tank, we have abused the crap out of them and never had a problem with the cone, some will not be as physically strong, i would go with the driver the performs well and has proven itself in lots of tapped horns, just my thoughts.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote FOO Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 June 2019 at 7:02pm
Originally posted by APW APW wrote:

Please don't get me wrong, I'm not dissing the MTH-30.... both the Tham and the MTH are good proven designs and have very good output considering their small size.




Not problem.. i follow you :) And agree with you..


Originally posted by concept-10 concept-10 wrote:

The 12lx60v2 is a brilliant driver, I use a lot of them in our tapped horns, some drivers do have an advantage in certain areas, however are they as physically strong, the beyma is a tank, we have abused the crap out of them and never had a problem with the cone, some will not be as physically strong, i would go with the driver the performs well and has proven itself in lots of tapped horns, just my thoughts.


What tapped horns are they? Just curious :)
I know the LX series from the old series. 18LX60 was i beast. And if they have keept to the recipe on the v2 series, maybe improved it, it should take a beating!
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They are our own design, closer to the tham than yours and they give the driver a slightly harder time, we are currently working on a new variant that will go lower at the expense of a bit of spl and we are using the 12lx60v2 again, they really are very good in this situation, there is a driver on Thomann called the box 12 280 8w it's  about €50, a few people have said it's very good in the mth30, I've not simmed it in anything so you should give it a look, you never know Smile
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Originally posted by concept-10 concept-10 wrote:

They are our own design, closer to the tham than yours and they give the driver a slightly harder time, we are currently working on a new variant that will go lower at the expense of a bit of spl and we are using the 12lx60v2 again, they really are very good in this situation, there is a driver on Thomann called the box 12 280 8w it's  about €50, a few people have said it's very good in the mth30, I've not simmed it in anything so you should give it a look, you never know Smile


I do not like The Box products. You get a great bang-for-the-buck, but it ends there.
Many do praise them, but i dont want to go cheap-ass.. I want the best possible performance :)
Not the best price-to-performance ratio :D

Quality do have a cost.

Sounds interesting. You got any photos? Not that i want to copy anything. Just want see what you got. Large visible magnets are porn haha :D
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Originally posted by APW APW wrote:

The Beyma 12LX60v2 is the driver the Tham-12 was developed with, and other than the MTH30 having a dB or so extra output the response for the two enclosures looks extremely similar when using this driver.

This is interesting considering the MTH is over 25% larger than the Tham they both have almost exactly the same output.


Think about how speaker efficiency increases when you go from a single to a double cab with the same driver - you'd expect 3dB more output for that increase, right.

Now work out how many consecutive increases of 25% it takes to equal a doubling.

What that adds up to is that one extra dB of efficiency for a 25% bigger cab is exactly what we'd expect, all else being equal. Wink
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote APW Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 June 2019 at 4:23pm
The extra dB is not what I found interesting, both the MTH and Tham are tapped horns and about 100ish dB/watt is what I’d expect a typical small/compact TH to produce, The Tham 15 is almost twice the size of its little brother and still only produces about 100dB/watt.

What I was expecting is due to the increased volume of the MTH was for the F3 to be slightly lower than the Tham 12 as I expected it to have a longer horn path… this isn’t what the sims sugest, the f3 is almost exactly the same.

I haven’t worked out the lengths of the horn yet on these two cabinets so cannot say for sure, but I’d imagen the horn length to be similar.



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