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What about spec of this driver, is it also similar with the V18 1000? How does it sounds like Xmax? I think Im beginning to some interest on it.

Edited by streetsounds - 11 February 2009 at 4:21pm
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Originally posted by adambomb adambomb wrote:

Does it have a Kurt Muller cone?
I also notice the chassie is slightly different around the mounting flange, no ribs on the above picture where the V18 does.

Not sure whether this uses a kurt muller cone adam, but for the price of 200USD,I can say that it has great build quality.Smile
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Originally posted by streetsounds streetsounds wrote:

What about spec of this driver, is it also similar with the V18 1000? How does it sounds like Xmax? I think Im beginning to some interest on it.

streets here is the specs.....

  Fs  =  28 Hz
  Qts  =  0.2
  Qms  =  1.325
  Qes  =  0.236  
  Vas  =  315 liters
  BL  =  31.2 Tm
  no  =  2.825 %  
  Cms  =  123.7 µm/N
  Mms  =  261.2 g
  Rms  =  34.68 kg/s
  Sd  =  1339 sq.cm
  Re  =  5 ohms
  Le  =  0.68 mH
  Z  =  6 ohms
  no  =  2.825 %
  1-W SPL =  96.66 dB
  2.83-V SPL =  98.7 dB
 

  8 mm xmax
  5 inches voice coil
  Dual spider

  It's worth a try,,,,,
  
    
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Originally posted by Xmax extreme Xmax extreme wrote:

  BL  =  31.2 Tm
 
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The specs are little down on the real deal (PD1850).. but still... (if the pound was a bit stronger) they would be a bargain... (as it is with the pound - dollar I will stick with the real deal).
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Well done guys - i admire your passion-
 
a great build- Thumbs Up
 
keep it up.
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Originally posted by adambomb adambomb wrote:

Originally posted by Xmax extreme Xmax extreme wrote:

  BL  =  31.2 Tm
 
Shocked
 
The specs are little down on the real deal (PD1850).. but still... (if the pound was a bit stronger) they would be a bargain... (as it is with the pound - dollar I will stick with the real deal).

LoL, spot on that adam,,, also noticed that. 
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Originally posted by streetsounds streetsounds wrote:

Originally posted by heinrich heinrich wrote:

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whoa!!!! kinda tasty ,,,,
what types of genre are u playing pards?

LOL sana malapit tayo......maraming chicharon sa'min......hehehehhe

pam pulotan...........
 
Im more on a live band setup..Batangas ako pards. Padala ka chicharon kahit sa picture. hehe, masarap yun sa FundadorStar..saan ka ba ngayon?
 
 
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Wink  heheheheheh guapo ka pala pards.hehehhehehe

actually never been abroad ....... not like
Xmax.........hehehehhe

Xmax is one furtunate enough to sneak in some chinese factories.......hehehehehhhe
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Xmax: do that picture means it's a NEUSCH PD1850 by T&T ?

5" voice coil.......flat aluminum cord....



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LOL!.... yeah lucky enough considering it was an all expense trip sponsored by the company....

The Neusch PD1850 is the first edition bai...
 
The PD1850B is the optimized edition..... B for Bass horn loading....Wink 
Right on that, this come with 5 inches flat aluminum wire. 
 
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Yep I know T&T, they are Shanghi based. Not a bad product, but i've always managed to blow all there stuff up. I'm not sure the coils are up to much.
 
Void sources the chassis and magnet for the V18-1000 from China, they are pretty generic parts and I know of at least another 4 companies here using the same chassis and magnet. But thats where the similarities end. We wind our own coils so I know its good stuff and there is no way they can get a Muller cone into China and use it in a product with a street price of 150 to 200 USD. The glues used will probably be crap as I've never seen a Chinese glue that can hold anything together for more that 10 mins. Again to import western quality glue would bring the cost up a lot. The way the lead in wires are designed and fabricated also has a lot to do with reliabilty too. I'm not sure that some 18 year old on coral draw really knows whats needed when it come to designing super reliable lead in wires.
 
So no, not a copy, its just using a lot of the same parts as I do for the V18-1000. Its the coil, cone and suspension that make a good woofer and I know they are not using the same as me as they are not buying parts from me.
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nice hearing from you Roger......

so how much will it cost us if for example we will buy these Voids (v18-1000) from you then
in USD please.... from your kingdom to our philippine islands
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This may sound strange, but I don't know any of the prices of Void stuff and I don't want to.
 
I'm not a salesman and I can't design if I know how much things cost. I'm not prepared to build or design to a cost, so its better than I never know how much it all costs.
 
I think you will have to ask a Void distributer how much the V18-1000 costs.
 
Best wishes,
 
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does the v1000 use a Kurt muller cone, I thought at one point you said the V1200 did but not the V1000? 
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