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    Posted: 24 July 2015 at 11:21pm
Had some fun a cuple of weeks ago!

Test was done in a big warehouse, DEQ2496, ECM8000 on some foam on the floor 1,5m from speaker.

Do not take the spl/m/w seriously.

Room did a lot to the plot but you can see how much sensitivity diff between cabs :-)

Impedance has been nom and cabs with x2 drivers plays 3dB higher.

No filter, DSP or any Nexo hocuspocus.

Cabs tested:
Tham15, PD.154 loaded
Nexo LS500
Nexo LS1200
Nexo RS.15-C
Nexo Alpha S2



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote csg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 July 2015 at 11:28pm
if you did not use the nexo processing, then the above is a bit meaningless in my opinion - the processor i an integral part of the system, the boxes are designed and tuned to work along with the processor.

whether or not that is a good thing is another subject altogether...
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Originally posted by csg csg wrote:

if you did not use the nexo processing, then the above is a bit meaningless in my opinion - the processor i an integral part of the system, the boxes are designed and tuned to work along with the processor.

whether or not that is a good thing is another subject altogether...

True, but I was curious of the cab itself, and from a DSP view "how much are ok to eq" and what starting point they got, if you know what I mean.    
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fair enough, but as i said, nexo really needs the processing.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote GEB Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 July 2015 at 9:52am
Does the Nexo processor effect the sensitivity then? As I got the impression the ccomparison was done to illustrate the differing sensitivity between the cabs and not How flat the plot looks.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Earplug Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 July 2015 at 2:18pm
I don´t know about the Nexo bass bins above, but I do know that the PS10/15 sound like shite without their processor.

It is interesting to see how well the Tham 15 does against the 'raw' Nexo cabs, but really you have to agree with csg - without the processing, it´s all a bit meaningless.


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what sort of processing we talkin about here..... could you, just for the sake of a test and a quick ten mins, apply the SAME processing to the tham and see how she sounds?
i understand they are different boxes with different driver and all that shizzle but ya'know, as you have the boxes out anyway.............

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote LjudLahger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 July 2015 at 4:36pm
Originally posted by mini-mad mini-mad wrote:

what sort of processing we talkin about here..... could you, just for the sake of a test and a quick ten mins, apply the SAME processing to the tham and see how she sounds?
i understand they are different boxes with different driver and all that shizzle but ya'know, as you have the boxes out anyway.............



Thats an idea!

This was done a cuple of weeks ago but maybe we could do it again!
And yes its a shame I did not test with processing but it was the cabs it self i was after.
So if there be a next time I will try to get all meassured.

Anyway, I thought this would be interesting for some people because you dont see this everyday
And fewer people wants to share here anymore :-)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote njw Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 July 2015 at 11:11pm
Originally posted by LjudLahger LjudLahger wrote:

Originally posted by mini-mad mini-mad wrote:

what sort of processing we talkin about here..... could you, just for the sake of a test and a quick ten mins, apply the SAME processing to the tham and see how she sounds?
i understand they are different boxes with different driver and all that shizzle but ya'know, as you have the boxes out anyway.............



Thats an idea!

This was done a cuple of weeks ago but maybe we could do it again!
And yes its a shame I did not test with processing but it was the cabs it self i was after.
So if there be a next time I will try to get all meassured.

Anyway, I thought this would be interesting for some people because you dont see this everyday
And fewer people wants to share here anymore :-)
 
 
 ^^This, or run the Nexo's with the controller and the thams with whatever settings they need to sing and then see what the result is.
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^^^^^ oooor.... do all of them!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ceharden Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 July 2015 at 12:49am
Originally posted by Earplug Earplug wrote:

I don´t know about the Nexo bass bins above, but I do know that the PS10/15 sound like shite without their processor.


If you didn't know, the reason for this is that the passive crossover in the PS10/15 is not designed to give a flat response and doesn't contain any of the attenuation required for the HF because this just wastes power dissipating it in resistors in an L-Pad.  Instead the attenuation is done in the controller.  It's very hard to recreate what the controller does just using EQ.
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