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Originally posted by Dub Specialist Sound Dub Specialist Sound wrote:

True still , theres an art/timing ect to using pulses,blimps and sirens

not just wail away man and stress it!!!
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Cannot be bothered with it

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Originally posted by rigsmith_electronics rigsmith_electronics wrote:

that was like top secret. I spend years trying to track something down to find the drawing and I lived in the UK.

I sell them for minor amounts of money professionally built for £70. this year loads of people have started to do the same and lower quality builds usually just undercutting me. I will probably quit soon and leave them to it, I have already reduced the prices, but I am a pro engineer and will not work for nothing (I am a uni graduate I can get real job in electronics if I wish).

I had been wondering where these people were finding the info, my boards are tricky for amateur copy as they use SMD parts. I did this to protect myself and others from people like yourself. Red eye and other put paint inside them also, so you needed to look hard for something to copy. 

It had to be a man in japan who would go mess it all up. Next every man and there dog will be selling them, probably loads of really bad ones that brake quickly on strip card.

If anyone wants a decent one fully tested, in engraved metal box email info@rigsmith.co.uk

Heres a video and clip of my verson. this metal box one is not on the website yet! but others are on www.rigsmith.co.uk

I can also retune them and make random items for a little more. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sb3b2sekvM
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote app Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 February 2015 at 11:11am
But rigsmith arent you making clones too...
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the real point is who is everybody trying to copy? WinkWink bet the ORIGINATOR whinces everytime he hears a sound copying his style. 
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Originally posted by rigsmith_electronics rigsmith_electronics wrote:

that was like top secret. I spend years trying to track something down to find the drawing and I lived in the UK.

I sell them for minor amounts of money professionally built for £70. this year loads of people have started to do the same and lower quality builds usually just undercutting me. I will probably quit soon and leave them to it, I have already reduced the prices, but I am a pro engineer and will not work for nothing (I am a uni graduate I can get real job in electronics if I wish).

I had been wondering where these people were finding the info, my boards are tricky for amateur copy as they use SMD parts. I did this to protect myself and others from people like yourself. Red eye and other put paint inside them also, so you needed to look hard for something to copy. 

It had to be a man in japan who would go mess it all up. Next every man and there dog will be selling them, probably loads of really bad ones that brake quickly on strip card.

If anyone wants a decent one fully tested, in engraved metal box email info@rigsmith.co.uk

Heres a video and clip of my verson. this metal box one is not on the website yet! but others are on www.rigsmith.co.uk

I can also retune them and make random items for a little more. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sb3b2sekvM


I don't see the big deal, you copied a circuit, they copied a circuit. Unless youown IP relating to it then no-one is more right or wrong here.

If I was in your shoes I would just market mine as the premium alternative to cheaper units and not be concerned with the competition. Mind you I'd also probably do it as a sideline to a proper job also which makes life a little easier on the soul.
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Cannot be bothered with it

Edited by rigsmith_electronics - 25 July 2017 at 10:14am
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Rig smith, I like your builds. I have used a lot of them and I can't fault them. As the person who started this thread, I get the impression the whole "people like you" thing is aimed at me. Truth is I've contemplated buying yours before, however I enow building stuff as much as anybody else. All my other sirens are handbu it by me and I'm proud of them. I wanted to build the se1 as it's the only one I haven't got, and as much as I could easily go out and buy one of yours, I wanted to build my own just like the rest of them. Kind of a personal thing really, yeah I understand your a manufacturer who's making to sell, but all I'm doing is putting the feelers out there for a schematic. I'm just some lad with a soldering iron, like you put it, I'm no competition to you.

I've built my own amps, does that mean every amp manufacturer is now getting the hump with me for not buying their product??? The comment I read earluer was spot on. Market yours as the premium option for the professional market. "Don't be fooled by cheaper copies" etc and people will make their own choice. At least youd've done whatever you could

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Originally posted by valve head777 valve head777 wrote:

i have a siren that will sound alittle bit different than yours and yours and yours and yours. stop copying and build something original! (no offence)..... its getting boring hearing the same siren again and again, especially when not used musically.

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I am not aiming anything at anyone other than the guy in Japan who posted this. Next the Chinese will be knocking them out in their sweatshops. 

If you want, Send a message to the website. I will sell you one not in a expensive metal box and give you support to re home it in your own style unit. I have done it before its no problem. I just don't want to give out my drawing which was a pain in the ass to get. My one is in fact double checked against Alpha Omega siren with the help of my pal Ben Alpha because the clones I was given had mistakes, it took me like 1 year to get a working copy and many favors from friends. 

my board is a tidy module you can lift it out easy. Its very simple to do, last guy I even offered him to send the unit to me if he had any problems and I would fix it (he though he has his working no support required because of the minimal wiring inside my units)

I am also building them in biscuit tins and other random boxes for people who have no electronics knowledge when they ask. 
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Originally posted by rigsmith_electronics rigsmith_electronics wrote:

I am not aiming anything at anyone other than the guy in Japan who posted this. Next the Chinese will be knocking them out in their sweatshops

If you want, Send a message to the website. I will sell you one not in a expensive metal box and give you support to re home it in your own style unit. I have done it before its no problem. I just don't want to give out my drawing which was a pain in the ass to get. My one is in fact double checked against Alpha Omega siren with the help of my pal Ben Alpha because the clones I was given had mistakes, it took me like 1 year to get a working copy and many favors from friends. 

my board is a tidy module you can lift it out easy. Its very simple to do, last guy I even offered him to send the unit to me if he had any problems and I would fix it (he though he has his working no support required because of the minimal wiring inside my units)

I am also building them in biscuit tins and other random boxes for people who have no electronics knowledge when they ask. 


You cant be serious?LOL I wouldnt worry about what people do in the far east. They have their own scene there which dont affect uk in anyway.
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Originally posted by DubSirenSpecialist DubSirenSpecialist wrote:

Rig smith, I like your builds. I have used a lot of them and I can't fault them. As the person who started this thread, I get the impression the whole "people like you" thing is aimed at me. Truth is I've contemplated buying yours before, however I enow building stuff as much as anybody else. All my other sirens are handbu it by me and I'm proud of them. I wanted to build the se1 as it's the only one I haven't got, and as much as I could easily go out and buy one of yours, I wanted to build my own just like the rest of them. Kind of a personal thing really, yeah I understand your a manufacturer who's making to sell, but all I'm doing is putting the feelers out there for a schematic. I'm just some lad with a soldering iron, like you put it, I'm no competition to you.

I've built my own amps, does that mean every amp manufacturer is now getting the hump with me for not buying their product??? The comment I read earluer was spot on. Market yours as the premium option for the professional market. "Don't be fooled by cheaper copies" etc and people will make their own choice. At least youd've done whatever you could

Just saying!

I'm always amazed when people come on here bragging that they are an electronics designer with a good reputation and don't need to do this for a living as they are better than this etc. No offence but it's only a mickey mouse siren that was originally meant for installing in public address systems to warn people people about emergency alerts and when to go home!! OK mickey mouse is a bit strong but it's is not like trying to copy a TB303 or a Moog. Why would a designer of any repute try to 'hide' his design of a 'cloned' njd siren?!Wacko 

Just like when people where trying to make the perfect clone of a 303 in the mid 90s the general result is that you get a lot of people producing a load of farting noises all over their productions with these cloned boxes - and not even in any musical form of timing!LOL
I don't understand why you would get a noise box that sounds like a next man because the whole point of noise/siren box (IMHO) is to be signature for your sound - not a next mans but hey - each one to their own.....

Dubs just do ya ting my yoot! I will always encourage anyone who wants to build their own equipment. So long as you follow general health and safety (for your own benefit) then it's cool as far as I'm concerned.

Let's not get this thread all scoop-ish. This is the ROOOTS n CULTURE area after all.....

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