Obertons in Hogs, depth problem

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   I am planning to build hog scoops with Oberton 18XB1500 speakers. The problem is that from the dimensions it looks like that the Oberton is a bit deeper than the original drivers that were supposed to be used.
In the plan it is given that you can make a groove for pd 1850 which is 180 mm in total depth with the flange included, while the Oberton is 207 mm, has anybody had experience with deeper speakers in this enclosure? Or idea how to modify the plan?

Thanks!

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bozhidar Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Registered User Joined: 31 March 2014 Status: Offline Points: 31	Post Options Post Reply Quote bozhidar Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Obertons in Hogs, depth problem Posted: 23 December 2015 at 12:54am
	I am planning to build hog scoops with Oberton 18XB1500 speakers. The problem is that from the dimensions it looks like that the Oberton is a bit deeper than the original drivers that were supposed to be used. In the plan it is given that you can make a groove for pd 1850 which is 180 mm in total depth with the flange included, while the Oberton is 207 mm, has anybody had experience with deeper speakers in this enclosure? Or idea how to modify the plan? Thanks!

RaskaMC Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Registered User Joined: 01 December 2015 Status: Offline Points: 89	Post Options Post Reply Quote RaskaMC Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 December 2015 at 10:24am
	Hi mate, I asked the same question to someone on this forum yesterday 'cause he has 6 hogs load with oberton, and he said to me that there wasn't any problem... If someone knows something else it's welcome!

Tweeter_Box Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Young Croc Joined: 23 June 2012 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 859	Post Options Post Reply Quote Tweeter_Box Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 December 2015 at 10:31am
	if using the original plan they should fit as normal
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RaskaMC Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Registered User Joined: 01 December 2015 Status: Offline Points: 89	Post Options Post Reply Quote RaskaMC Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 December 2015 at 10:44am
	I think it's because the diameter at the back is finer as the pd1850 isn't it?

bee Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Old Croc Joined: 14 June 2011 Location: Middlesex Status: Offline Points: 4553	Post Options Post Reply Quote bee Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 December 2015 at 10:52am
	the 1500 is not as deep as the 1850 so will fit fine.
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RaskaMC Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Registered User Joined: 01 December 2015 Status: Offline Points: 89	Post Options Post Reply Quote RaskaMC Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 December 2015 at 11:01am
	i found 207mm for the oberton and 175mm for the pd?!

RaskaMC Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Registered User Joined: 01 December 2015 Status: Offline Points: 89	Post Options Post Reply Quote RaskaMC Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 December 2015 at 11:47am
	Oh and i have an other question, How do i send in a oberton to sound well? 1200w per speaker is enough or 2500 is better?

app Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Old Croc Joined: 26 December 2013 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 2435	Post Options Post Reply Quote app Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 December 2015 at 1:24pm
	1200w vs 2500w is about 3db difference...
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RaskaMC Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Registered User Joined: 01 December 2015 Status: Offline Points: 89	Post Options Post Reply Quote RaskaMC Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 December 2015 at 1:32pm
	So? ^^ haha sorry i'm not sure about what it means

app Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Old Croc Joined: 26 December 2013 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 2435	Post Options Post Reply Quote app Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 December 2015 at 1:43pm
	Lets imagine that you have a speaker which gives out 90db when given power of 1w: 1w = 90db 2w= 93db 4w= 96db and so on... So the difference between 1200w and 2500w is also 3decibels... edit.So every doubling of power is +3db loudness. Edited by app - 23 December 2015 at 1:45pm
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RaskaMC Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Registered User Joined: 01 December 2015 Status: Offline Points: 89	Post Options Post Reply Quote RaskaMC Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 December 2015 at 1:53pm
	Okay, thanks, and 3dB is not many?! so you mean that the inf8 is okay right?

app Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Old Croc Joined: 26 December 2013 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 2435	Post Options Post Reply Quote app Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 December 2015 at 1:57pm
	No disrespect but it amazes me that youre building a huge sound system with really expensive amplifiers and havent studied basic audio rules. Maybe it would be worth learning the basics first before building/playing anything. Good luck with your project still
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