PAudio SD21 2000n or 18Sound 21LW1400

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This almost sounds like a stupid question but I'll ask..  
I'm building some 21" Supers and had my eyes on the 18sound 21LW1400 but looks like I can get the PAudio for a little more. Has anyone used the SD21 2000n? Would you take the PAudio over the 18Sound?

All help / comments are appreciated.

Note: right now I'm only using PL380s to push my subs... 

Edited by keilamym - 18 May 2016 at 8:39pm

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keilamym Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Registered User Joined: 20 November 2007 Location: California, USA Status: Offline Points: 441	Post Options Post Reply Quote keilamym Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: PAudio SD21 2000n or 18Sound 21LW1400 Posted: 18 May 2016 at 8:25pm
	This almost sounds like a stupid question but I'll ask.. I'm building some 21" Supers and had my eyes on the 18sound 21LW1400 but looks like I can get the PAudio for a little more. Has anyone used the SD21 2000n? Would you take the PAudio over the 18Sound? All help / comments are appreciated. Note: right now I'm only using PL380s to push my subs... Edited by keilamym - 18 May 2016 at 8:39pm

corell Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Young Croc Joined: 19 August 2013 Location: Berlin Status: Offline Points: 1161	Post Options Post Reply Quote corell Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 May 2016 at 8:46pm
	Id go for the 18sound. It has an outstanding motor force to cone weight ratio, apart from the IPAL chassis the strongest on the market imo.

ceharden Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List The 10,000 Points Club Joined: 05 June 2005 Location: Southampton Status: Offline Points: 11776	Post Options Post Reply Quote ceharden Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 May 2016 at 9:21pm
	SD21-1800EL is actually a pretty good driver, also incredibly heavy! I replaced the PD2150's in some Opus HB121's with them about 5 years ago and as far as I know they're still going strong and being hammered regularly. The 21LW1400 is only a 4" voice coil which is potentially a bit on the small side. 18Sound do some monster neo 21" drivers but the price isn't going to be cheap.

keilamym Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Registered User Joined: 20 November 2007 Location: California, USA Status: Offline Points: 441	Post Options Post Reply Quote keilamym Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 May 2016 at 9:29pm
	ceharden... Im looking at the sd21 2000n which is the neo driver... 6" voice coil, http://www.p-audio.co.uk/pdf/SD21_2000N.pdf

ceharden Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List The 10,000 Points Club Joined: 05 June 2005 Location: Southampton Status: Offline Points: 11776	Post Options Post Reply Quote ceharden Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 May 2016 at 9:45pm
	I haven't tried the SD21-2000N but I have tried the SD21-1800EL ferrite which is why I thought I'd mention it if you were considering P-Audio 21" drivers. Specs look fairly reasonable on the 2000N but you'd either need to simulate it or just try one to really find out. It's definitely a more impressive driver than the LW1400 but I suspect the 18Sound will need less power, having a lighter cone etc.

corell Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Young Croc Joined: 19 August 2013 Location: Berlin Status: Offline Points: 1161	Post Options Post Reply Quote corell Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 May 2016 at 5:17pm
	After having another look, the P-Audio seems to be a great chassis aswell. Very similar TSP really. Edited by corell - 19 May 2016 at 5:21pm

keilamym Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Registered User Joined: 20 November 2007 Location: California, USA Status: Offline Points: 441	Post Options Post Reply Quote keilamym Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 May 2016 at 5:55pm
	I can get the 18sound for $1800 or the paudio for $2000.... just don't know to much about the paudio here in CA.. we use B&C or 18Sound mostly...

corell Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Young Croc Joined: 19 August 2013 Location: Berlin Status: Offline Points: 1161	Post Options Post Reply Quote corell Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 May 2016 at 7:01pm
	per unit? that is pure fraud. 400$ max for the 18sound. Write me a PN for a 18sound dealer in the US.

keilamym Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Registered User Joined: 20 November 2007 Location: California, USA Status: Offline Points: 441	Post Options Post Reply Quote keilamym Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 May 2016 at 7:41pm
	i'll shoot you a message..

snowflake Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Old Croc Joined: 29 December 2004 Location: Bristol Status: Offline Points: 3122	Post Options Post Reply Quote snowflake Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 May 2016 at 7:46pm
	that P-audio price looks high too - in Europe that driver's advertised for ~£600 and substantially less for trade

keilamym Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Registered User Joined: 20 November 2007 Location: California, USA Status: Offline Points: 441	Post Options Post Reply Quote keilamym Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 May 2016 at 7:57pm
	They list the P Audio for 750+US... The price I was quoted was $500US each.. no tax

keilamym Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Registered User Joined: 20 November 2007 Location: California, USA Status: Offline Points: 441	Post Options Post Reply Quote keilamym Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 May 2016 at 11:22pm
	thanks for everyones feedback.. I decided to go with the 18Sound...