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Originally posted by Mircea Bartic Mircea Bartic wrote:

21" sell very poorly so it makes sense to buy chassis from other Chinese manufacturers. If they would make the mold , they will take years to recoup the investment.

Launching a 21" speaker is a great way to attract attention after going into the shadow for the past years.
In my opinion an excellent marketing stunt and probably a decent driver too.Clap

Really Mircea ?

This is stealing B&C industrial design and giving more sales to the copycat industry. A terrible move from Eminence, a respectable company in the past Dead
 
PS: 21" sales is all about the cost. I have very large demand if it was at reasonable price...
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they are buying baskets and building in house.  this is 1st gen of their new "Tour Grade" series.  we'll see what changes are made in Gen 2.  Regardless, is a killer on paper and can move as much air as a pair of typical 2x18 boxes so "cost" is realtive
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Where are the ts parameters ?
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I have the spec sheet.  I guess I better double check to be sure it can be posted
regardless, I can't post pics yet apparently
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BL, Qes, Qts will tell you just how "tour grade", any driver is.
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If they dont make the price atractive too, they wont sell much. Never mind the performance, added marketing value by putting Eminence inside is not ZERO but actually a negative value.
With that BC style basket people will always see it as BC. So another negative point there.
As i have read somewhere the price is arround the 900us$ mark. 
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EAW have got away with fitting Eminence drivers for years now in a lot of their popular models and they have done very well out of it.
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Originally posted by ArthurG ArthurG wrote:

Really Mircea ?

This is stealing B&C industrial design and giving more sales to the copycat industry. A terrible move from Eminence, a respectable company in the past Dead
 
PS: 21" sales is all about the cost. I have very large demand if it was at reasonable price...


I don't know if the chassis is a complete copy of a B&C model.
It could be just the design that is similar, in which case it doesn't really matter.
I could even be a B&C Driver altogether.
I have seen drivers that are in reality BMS units sold by Eminence.
Also I know that they outsource the new line array horns
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Do you know if the Eminence N151M-8 is actually built by BMS?  It is built very much like a BMS driver and performs and sounds very similar, i was not 100% certain if it was built by BMS or not...

Edited by Timebomb - 21 February 2019 at 12:14pm
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The new Eminence HF drivers are 100% built in America, at Eminence. So is the new 21" range.
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Originally posted by Timebomb Timebomb wrote:

Do you know if the Eminence N151M-8 is actually built by BMS?  It is built very much like a BMS driver and performs and sounds very similar, i was not 100% certain if it was built by BMS or not...


BMS has the patents on ring radiator drivers and they are not sharing :))
JBL did something similar a few years back. Probably still do.
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