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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote csg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 November 2019 at 6:56am
Originally posted by Robbo Robbo wrote:

In the UK, when a company reduces prices significantly it usually means that they are really struggling to sell stock product or they are on the brink of bringing the receivers in!!!!!!!

This - no one in the right mind would drop prices because they had a popular product. If you can improve your margins then that's for you and your business, anyone who gave that away would probably get a few questions from their accountant / share holders / investors...

more likely they are struggling to sell outside they local territory. I quite like the PKN's I've seen and owned, but they are not a touring standard product for the modern world of audio production, so will always struggle at that price point. They could have a small chance in the MI and DJ market, but then you have to fight the big boys in that market
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote U.Viktor Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 November 2019 at 8:28am

Really? I learnt in the school that the cost of product is a function of numbers sold, more numbers lower cost!


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the Hungarian central bank has been holding interest rates at a low level to stimulate domestic growth - this tends to weaken the currency
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I H8 PKN! ;)
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Originally posted by U.Viktor U.Viktor wrote:


Really? I learnt in the school that the cost of product is a function of numbers sold, more numbers lower cost!

Only if that was your original business model, Behringer for example build to a price point and volume helps them hit that low/affordable point, PKNs plan was to build an amplifier that could rival Powersoft but at a more affordable point, they have achieved this to a degree and they do produce a good product, however with their lack of amps promised and now this very large reduction in price does not look good, if Behringer suddenly reduce an amp by £30 then no problem however if a pro audio guy has just spent £20.000 on amps and PKN reduce this by £5000 then that is very bad for business in the long term, pro audio guy has just been had for £5000 and will justifiably be very pissed off,  to me this looks like panic selling for financial reasons (no cash flow), time will tell.


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When we bought ~20+ of them already got those good prices 6 years ago.
Total couple hundreds went accross our two companies, for install and others mainlyfrom the XE series as well as XD.
My dealer prices did not changed a lot just very few percent (probably I got already the best)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote concept-10 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 November 2019 at 11:26am
Good for you, but that is not what we are talking about, we are talking about a massive price drop now, why? and don't give me the volume nonsense as that makes no sense at all on a business level, so now answer the above points without referring to you and your deals.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote snowflake Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 November 2019 at 11:35am
if you are complainging about lower prices you really are a glass-half-empty sort of person Ermm
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Not complaining, from a business level a massive sudden price drop across a range of products rings alarm bells, so let's not question the price drop and go and buy a whole load of PKN, if the situation is as it looks and even this panic sale cannot save them then you have a whole lot of new amps that now have no warranty or back up, I hope I am totally wrong, to not question this means you are a blikers on type of person.

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Yep, this is the best way to say 'we don't have the proper sales volume to support a real dealer network with after-sales care' and piss off all the people who handled distribution before.

I bet Andy at Blue Aran is bloody chuffed to bits with this new webshop and 'trade prices' for all sold directly to the end-user.

Given past experiences with PKN repairs, and lead times, I wish anyone interested the best of luck. You can have the best equipment in the world, but it isn't a viable product until it's got all the extra stuff around it that makes a real company.
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I do not know the England situation. But from our experience the average service cost of any XE-XD-LC amps made by PKN, after the warranty period were bellow 10000FT ( 30EUR or 25 GBP :-)
Service times are always bellow five working days! But I am in Hungary of course.

There are several companies in my sight have replaced not only the aging Macrotechs but also Powersoft K series by the new XE10000 and XE6000 amplifiers! The Powersofts are not as reliable as advertised (just like the I-Techs from Crown) and difficult~expensive to repair!

The situation is that you could have 2pcs of XE10000 (2* 5000W@4R!) on the price of a single K10/20 and much better to have only 4R loadings not going down to 2R.

The X series plays nowhere outside of closed government projects since collapsing after the first beat and ways too expensive. X4 advertised as " 20000Watts amplifier" while in the reality can do just little more average power than the small PKN LC4004U


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Looks to me that they just trying to cut out the distributors, the price on the web site is still more than I paid for the last couple I bought. Not sure if this price reduction is real.....
 
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