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Originally posted by Andy Kos Andy Kos wrote:

Originally posted by toastyghost toastyghost wrote:

So just the three years from announcement of availability to actual availability? Those sure are turnaround times I can base my business on!


The XE10000 (as opposed to XE10000-U) was only announced as available in April at Frankfurt. Previously they were only offering XE10000-U


So a company that is supposedly a world leader in power supply manufacturing couldn't make an SMPS amp that runs on more than one voltage range?

Sounds great


They could, and they did, but it relied on certain components, that unfortunately proved difficult to source. They have made some crazy stuff in the past, but in order for it to reach market, it has to be possible to manufacture it in a financially viable way, and relies on various suppliers in the supply chain being able to supply specific components.

Making things to operate at lower power, in a larger 2u/3u amp gives you more flexibility. When you are trying to fit maximum power into a very small 1U case, you don't have the same flexibility in component choices, some physically wont fit, others wont handle the power.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote citizensc Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 May 2018 at 11:23am
Originally posted by Andy Kos Andy Kos wrote:

Originally posted by toastyghost toastyghost wrote:

Originally posted by Andy Kos Andy Kos wrote:

Originally posted by toastyghost toastyghost wrote:

So just the three years from announcement of availability to actual availability? Those sure are turnaround times I can base my business on!


The XE10000 (as opposed to XE10000-U) was only announced as available in April at Frankfurt. Previously they were only offering XE10000-U


So a company that is supposedly a world leader in power supply manufacturing couldn't make an SMPS amp that runs on more than one voltage range?

Sounds great


They could, and they did, but it relied on certain components, that unfortunately proved difficult to source. They have made some crazy stuff in the past, but in order for it to reach market, it has to be possible to manufacture it in a financially viable way, and relies on various suppliers in the supply chain being able to supply specific components.

Making things to operate at lower power, in a larger 2u/3u amp gives you more flexibility. When you are trying to fit maximum power into a very small 1U case, you don't have the same flexibility in component choices, some physically wont fit, others wont handle the power.

Is a 2u amp that much of a deal breaker for people? LabGruppen seem to be doing okay with 2U. Somehow I think they might get a better return on investment in R&D if they made a 2U amp and actually sold it. 

Also any word on the H8? 
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We have few XE10000U in our inventory too, while I just tested the XE10000 three weeks ago with great results.
Do not mix them, They are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT amplifies inside while the outside is very similar!

XE10000U has Universal power supply and similar 'half-bridge switching amp' like Powersoft K10.
I think most of you have already experienced that these XE PKNs offer better sound quality than Powersoft K series, I mean fine details in music, vocals, highs & mids not bellow 20Hz infrasub tones..
The XE10000 has normal EU power supply (160V-250Vac) with PFC of course like other XE or XD amps from PKN.
I better like the sound quality of the XE , likely due higher resolution and other advantages of the bridged output than the simpler half-bridge!
Working bellow 180Vac mains is not important for us in Europe Central. So the normal EU version is OK here.
I would not really need more power for our work what the XE6000 delivers but the extra headroom offered by the 10000 model is eye catching, especially we got friendly pricing not lots more expensive than 6000 :-)



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote toastyghost Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 May 2018 at 4:26pm
Originally posted by Andy Kos Andy Kos wrote:

Originally posted by toastyghost toastyghost wrote:

Originally posted by Andy Kos Andy Kos wrote:

Originally posted by toastyghost toastyghost wrote:

So just the three years from announcement of availability to actual availability? Those sure are turnaround times I can base my business on!


The XE10000 (as opposed to XE10000-U) was only announced as available in April at Frankfurt. Previously they were only offering XE10000-U


So a company that is supposedly a world leader in power supply manufacturing couldn't make an SMPS amp that runs on more than one voltage range?

Sounds great


They could, and they did, but it relied on certain components, that unfortunately proved difficult to source. They have made some crazy stuff in the past, but in order for it to reach market, it has to be possible to manufacture it in a financially viable way, and relies on various suppliers in the supply chain being able to supply specific components.

Making things to operate at lower power, in a larger 2u/3u amp gives you more flexibility. When you are trying to fit maximum power into a very small 1U case, you don't have the same flexibility in component choices, some physically wont fit, others wont handle the power.


Yes and you’d almost expect someone who’s entire job is to build things based on said components to plan for that, no?

I look forward to hearing a H8 amp in 2040
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