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mk2_ginger_biscuit69 ![]() Old Croc ![]() Joined: 03 November 2008 Location: Brighton Status: Offline Points: 7801 |
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copying over some notes from lectures skipping large chunks to try and keep things relevant to the cab builders
So yeah, from this you can tell new ply has a moisture content of 4-8% (largely required to get a good adesive bond), which over time will absorb moisture from the enviroment its in. Marine ply uses a different glue, which is more resistant to the spread of moisture through the layers, and the timber maybe treated to slow the moisture movement through the grains.
Moisture content rising up to 20% can bring in the risk of rot, and above 28% will start to swell and loose structural integrity.
From other British Standards (BS code) papers, we assume the applyable humidity content in a house will be an equivilent of around 15%, meaning your ply should be rot free and in sound shape.
assuming your speaker cab has say 40kg of ply @15% humidity, thats 40 * 0.15 = 6kg of moisture in the timber. Taking this up to the 28% saturation point, we have 40 * 0.28 = 11.2kg of moisture. I have a theory that the load out of a festival when everything seems heavier, is because it actually is
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''Remember that the object of a subwoofer is to enhance the output of your main speakers, not overpower it''
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burningbush ![]() Old Croc ![]() ![]() Joined: 25 May 2009 Location: Pictland Status: Offline Points: 5897 |
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Wondered where you were going then. It would absorb if it were exposed to environment, but as you have several coats of Alcroft sealing it I doubt it would actually absorb nearly 6kg (6litres) of water. Mind you if some Ketamine/MKat zombie decides to releive himself through a port/vent/horn mouth, who knows?lol.
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backlash ![]() Old Croc ![]() Joined: 11 November 2008 Location: Devon Status: Offline Points: 3532 |
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Cheers for the info pat.
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Nitz V1505 ![]() Old Croc ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 September 2009 Location: UXBRIDGE Status: Offline Points: 1719 |
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Interesting thread. MDF when wet (unless water resistant) or damp tends to swell.
Every speaker gets scratched exposing the wood to moisture at some point in its life. Id rather have my speakers made of ply than mdf for this reason even if its not marine birch. A shelf in the garage made of mdf is sagging in the middle although not holding a great deal of weight. In this respect wouldnt MDF speaker panels sag over time too?
Edited by Nitz V1505 - 24 February 2010 at 8:33pm |
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LET THE BASS ROLL LIKE THUNDER
& THE TOPS LIKE LIGHTNING..... |
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backlash ![]() Old Croc ![]() Joined: 11 November 2008 Location: Devon Status: Offline Points: 3532 |
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Any advice on waterproofing mdf? PVA on the cab is my thought?
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tomschute ![]() Old Croc ![]() Joined: 15 May 2006 Location: Mid Wales Status: Offline Points: 1817 |
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use MR MDF in the first place
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Out to lunch... stableaudio@hotmail.co.uk
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Anna Recksiek ![]() Registered User ![]() ![]() Suspended Joined: 24 February 2010 Location: Margate Status: Offline Points: 41 |
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Edited by norty303 - 25 February 2010 at 12:30am |
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backlash ![]() Old Croc ![]() Joined: 11 November 2008 Location: Devon Status: Offline Points: 3532 |
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Cheers anna....
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Anna Recksiek ![]() Registered User ![]() ![]() Suspended Joined: 24 February 2010 Location: Margate Status: Offline Points: 41 |
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better
Edited by norty303 - 25 February 2010 at 12:30am |
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Anna Recksiek ![]() Registered User ![]() ![]() Suspended Joined: 24 February 2010 Location: Margate Status: Offline Points: 41 |
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what you on about ? what i posted has gone
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Jake_Fielder ![]() Old Croc ![]() Joined: 08 October 2007 Status: Offline Points: 4231 |
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witty
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