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Originally posted by ceharden ceharden wrote:

I think the point is that you should only be using horn loaded midranges like the Porns in large systems when the disadvantages aren't an issue.  They were never designed for small scale touring.  If you want to just run a 3 way system with one or two tops per side then I think direct radiating 12" or 15" mids are a much better solution.

The system I've been taking out to do bands recently is (per side) one twin 18" sub and one twin 12" + 1.4" mid-top.  That's been doing venues of a few hundred capacity without even breaking a sweat (rarely reaching -6dB on the LMS).

On the other hand, one of the venues I work in for live bands has two Martin F1 tops per side (single 12" horn loaded + HF) for a capacity of up to 500-800 people.  Assuming the Porns are louder than that I don't think you really need more than 2 of them per side for a lot of applications.

 
Thats a fair point about the martins
 
If as you say the Porns were designed for touring systems and high end applications then that furthers the mystery of their design - Because the Stasys 3 already exists to fill that market and does so very well and I think last time I checked the Stasys wasnt a great deal more expensive than the Porn but that may have changed
 
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Originally posted by Disco Stu Disco Stu wrote:

If as you say the Porns were designed for touring systems and high end applications then that furthers the mystery of their design - Because the Stasys 3 already exists to fill that market and does so very well and I think last time I checked the Stasys wasnt a great deal more expensive than the Porn but that may have changed
 
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Stasys 3 list is £2500, even with discounts I'd be surprised if it competed with £1000 for a pre-built Porn v2.

Although I do think that having an extra 6.5" driver will give a less 'stressed' sound when run loud than the Porn top end.
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which drivers does the Stasys use?
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Last time I checked PAP quoted me £1600 I think for a Stasys but that was a while ago and the Mk I I think

Stasys uses custom drivers AFAIK
 
I think its odd - the MT121 is a good sounding box - why Rog didnt add the Porn horn as a Void Product I dont know
 
Nevertheless Heathrow you were looking at Porn Horn V3 ideas - I doubt there will be one as Rog stated that he barely sold any of the Mk I anyway. But if there is I definitely think a rotatable HF or modular system would be much more flexible
 
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Originally posted by Heathrow_B_line Heathrow_B_line wrote:

Originally posted by mykey mykey wrote:

 
Bit more expensive than the MX12 though HBLConfused
 
 
when you think it would take 2 or 3 mx12 boxes to be as loud as one porn it soon starts looking like the cheap option.
 
 
Don't know if you have eye sight trouble HBL, in that pic is a back bowlLOL
 
wasn't talking about the porn horn was talking about that horn in the pic
 
 
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A three way would be great (poss. 12" - 8"/6" and 1.4"/1"), but you could probably get something commercial s/hand for the sort of money that would end up costing.
Or maybe a 1.4" hf, 10" or 8" mid and a 12" or 15" on a folded horn, like a resolution 4/5 or Aspect TA-500.


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Originally posted by Footloose Footloose wrote:

A three way would be great (poss. 12" - 8"/6" and 1.4"/1"), but you could probably get something commercial s/hand for the sort of money that would end up costing.
Or maybe a 1.4" hf, 10" or 8" mid and a 12" or 15" on a folded horn, like a resolution 4/5 or Aspect TA-500.
 
that would be really nice ,a 3 way fully horn loaded loud speaker with phase plug for 6" and a short horn for the 12"  Clap
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Umm...
http://www.voidaudio.com/product_detail.asp?id=17

*certain members may be working on a top-secret 12+6+1.

Also see Limmer + Porn horn/MT12 combo.
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Originally posted by Deadbeat Deadbeat wrote:

Umm...
http://www.voidaudio.com/product_detail.asp?id=17

*certain members may be working on a top-secret 12+6+1.

Also see Limmer + Porn horn/MT12 combo.
 
yes i know the stasys 3 but it's not a diy speaker ... ;)
 
i don't found anything on the Limmer + Porn horn/MT12 combo ,have a link ?
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Also check out these two projects:
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The limmer 042 is a 6+1 horn unit that some have bought for use above MT12 flares and Porn horn flares.
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I think that Disco stu's issues with the Porn Horn v2 are because he's thinking about using them outside of their intended application.
 
The Porn Horn v1 was designed to be a narrow dispersion, high output mid top that was to be used in multiples to achieve the desired coverage (think Flashlight)
 
Rog created the Porn Horn v2 because he realised that the majority of people who bought the Porns did so because they were doing medium sized gigs and so needed a mid top that was reasonably loud but could achieve the coverage with only 1 or 2 boxes due to budget constraints normally (think Floodlight)
 
So needing a cab that is 'stackable' was not really on the cards, and besides, I'm not really aware of any non-line array cabs that are designed to be stacked and cover the same areas - they all tend to look for fairly steep cutoffs at the dispersion edges so only a single cab provides sound for each specific area in front of it - specifically to stop comb filtering issues.
 
 


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oo - sorry norty, didn't read the rest of the thread Embarrassed.
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