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To be fair, i managed to completely shot down an X4 driving 8 of our subs. Which never happened with a K20. 
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I think multichannel amps are best left for home theaters.. I've never owned or used one in PA but most people seem to agree that it's best to use separate amps.. in case one goes down the others will still run unless you trip a breaker or somehow manage to fry the whole rack.

actually multi channel (labgruppen, d&b, Powersoft, Linea....) amps are the standard on serious touring rigs.



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Which brings into mind.. I'm building a crossover which could well cause damage to amplifiers. Is there any reasonable safety measure to prevent this?

Yes - i have one - don't build it.
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Originally posted by efinque efinque wrote:

Originally posted by MarjanM MarjanM wrote:

To be fair, i managed to completely shot down an X4 driving 8 of our subs. Which never happened with a K20. 

I think multichannel amps are best left for home theaters.. I've never owned or used one in PA but most people seem to agree that it's best to use separate amps.. in case one goes down the others will still run unless you trip a breaker or somehow manage to fry the whole rack.

Which brings into mind.. I'm building a crossover which could well cause damage to amplifiers. Is there any reasonable safety measure to prevent this?

Most people? Substantiate this.

Its nonsense and needs calling out. Presenting an opinion is fine but trying to add weight to it in such a fashion is unnecessary and wrong. 
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Originally posted by MarjanM MarjanM wrote:

To be fair, i managed to completely shot down an X4 driving 8 of our subs. Which never happened with a K20. 
Hey MarjanM with the time we have spent together here since lordly knows when, you are the last man I’d expect to do something like that , did the amp work afterwards. Or did it die ? And how many drivers are there in the boxes . Cause the amps don’t do what they shouldn’t, 
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Originally posted by efinque efinque wrote:

Originally posted by MarjanM MarjanM wrote:

To be fair, i managed to completely shot down an X4 driving 8 of our subs. Which never happened with a K20. 

I think multichannel amps are best left for home theaters.. I've never owned or used one in PA but most people seem to agree that it's best to use separate amps.. in case one goes down the others will still run unless you trip a breaker or somehow manage to fry the whole rack.

Which brings into mind.. I'm building a crossover which could well cause damage to amplifiers. Is there any reasonable safety measure to prevent this?

You do talk some shit...
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Originally posted by dylan-penguinmedia dylan-penguinmedia wrote:

Originally posted by efinque efinque wrote:

Originally posted by MarjanM MarjanM wrote:

To be fair, i managed to completely shot down an X4 driving 8 of our subs. Which never happened with a K20. 

I think multichannel amps are best left for home theaters.. I've never owned or used one in PA but most people seem to agree that it's best to use separate amps.. in case one goes down the others will still run unless you trip a breaker or somehow manage to fry the whole rack.

Which brings into mind.. I'm building a crossover which could well cause damage to amplifiers. Is there any reasonable safety measure to prevent this?

You do talk some shit...

Definitely needs to hold back on giving advice.
Going to be a nightmare for new people in the future, searching the forum and ending up listening to drivel without the context of other posts lol
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Originally posted by dylan-penguinmedia dylan-penguinmedia wrote:

Originally posted by efinque efinque wrote:

Originally posted by MarjanM MarjanM wrote:

To be fair, i managed to completely shot down an X4 driving 8 of our subs. Which never happened with a K20. 

I think multichannel amps are best left for home theaters.. I've never owned or used one in PA but most people seem to agree that it's best to use separate amps.. in case one goes down the others will still run unless you trip a breaker or somehow manage to fry the whole rack.

Which brings into mind.. I'm building a crossover which could well cause damage to amplifiers. Is there any reasonable safety measure to prevent this?

You do talk some shit...


LOL LOL LOL


Yes, multichannel amps are everywhere in PA work. Especially for things like bi-amping stage monitors. Saves a lot of rack space. Even the cheaper units, like the iNukes are fine for this.




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Yup.

Mr Efinque, im sure you mean well, but posting random nonsense about building amp-destroying-crossovers in someone else's thread, that has no relevance at all to the topic is annoying.

Maybe best to confine your "projects" to your own Dance stack thread, that way we can have all the sillyness in one place. Thumbs Up
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Agreed, hate to see a newbie take some of this advice.
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Originally posted by Father-Francis Father-Francis wrote:

Originally posted by MarjanM MarjanM wrote:

To be fair, i managed to completely shot down an X4 driving 8 of our subs. Which never happened with a K20. 
Hey MarjanM with the time we have spent together here since lordly knows when, you are the last man I’d expect to do something like that , did the amp work afterwards. Or did it die ? And how many drivers are there in the boxes . Cause the amps don’t do what they shouldn’t, 

Well, the amp is fine. it was the first time i ever used the X4, and i decided to give it hell.
Our M4.18s are loaded with a variant of 18NLW9601, so in theory X4 could run 8 of them, two per channel at 4 ohm. Obviousley this is not enough power (1500W per driver) but i was curious to see what it would do. So i pushed it to its limit and it went to protect mode. Recovered very fast, and it did sounded rather well. For some less powerful drivers, it will work just fine if you set the limiters properly.
But for high power 18s/21s you better look for something with more power.
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