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Originally posted by Father-Francis Father-Francis wrote:

 I try to learn from the elderly Pro’s many years back Tony (ASS) said run run your bass in 4&8 ohm to get the best out of them,


Except any "pro" worth his salt, will know a cab loaded with 8 ohm driver, could be between 10-12 ohms, not including resistance of the speaker cable between it and the amp.

So, 4x of those cabs on one channel of an amp is not 2ohms is it!?

So much for the advice of old pro's.
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Originally posted by levyte357- levyte357- wrote:

Originally posted by Father-Francis Father-Francis wrote:

 I try to learn from the elderly Pro’s many years back Tony (ASS) said run run your bass in 4&8 ohm to get the best out of them,


Except any "pro" worth his salt, will know a cab loaded with 8 ohm driver, could be between 10-12 ohms, not including resistance of the speaker cable between it and the amp.

So, 4x of those cabs on one channel of an amp is not 2ohms is it!?

So much for the advice of old pro's.

Give it some beans and get that voice coil warmed up and your looking at more like 20-30 ohms
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..you'd need to do an impedance sweep to make sure. 
To be worth your salt you wouldn't guess or assume.
BUT to give advice on using basic maths and to play on the safe side of things telling people 4/8ohm on an amp channel is fairly SAFE advice and gives the novice the chance to explore, down the road, better ways of using their boxes and how to balance channel loads as to not push them to hard as to keep killing them.


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That 10-12ohm might be the case, so 4 drivers might result in a 3ohm or whatever load.
But the damping factor will suffer regardless, compared to 2-3 8 ohm drivers in parallel.
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Lol , so yesterday we did setups for today first setup is 
8*res3sh ,4*215mk2 F1, and 8*121 br’s pd2151 loaded , amps for this setup since it’s a four cornered game, is 2*m50q, 4*k6, and k20 . 
Setup 2 , all running from an X4 2*101 F1’s and 4*118 , 
First setup is using 32a, the second is fine on 16a both sounded fantastic, will put pics up on another topic, 
Lev just asking how many drivers have you blown in the last ten years ?
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Originally posted by Father-Francis Father-Francis wrote:

Lev just asking how many drivers have you blown in the last ten years ?

In last 10x years, blown 4x drivers.

2" Jbl comp, 1x PD1850, 2x Void V18-1000..

Pd1850 blown by 4050HD clipping.
2x Voids killed by Inf8mk2 on its way out on 1x Channel.

Funnily enough, when I drew 34A powering 4x of my Scoops, with 2x bridged amps, only people's minds were blown, by so much spl!!

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Bridged QSCs and K20 compared on sub.

Video by Ermita.

No sub drivers blown..

But on the night, dude did blow 3x 18" drivers, in his tapped horns, trying to keep up with my Scoops.

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Originally posted by levyte357- levyte357- wrote:

Originally posted by Father-Francis Father-Francis wrote:

Lev just asking how many drivers have you blown in the last ten years ?

In last 10x years, blown 4x drivers.

2" Jbl comp, 1x PD1850, 2x Void V18-1000..

Pd1850 blown by 4050HD clipping.
2x Voids killed by Inf8mk2 on its way out on 1x Channel.

Funnily enough, when I drew 34A powering 4x of my Scoops, with 2x bridged amps, only people's minds were blown, by so much spl!!

LOL
That’s not bad cause ten years ago we talked about Soundboy blowing a bin or two every time sound systems were out 🤓, and about keeping up with the next soundbouy, I stopped , that we try to just just the best and most clear,clean sound, we can get every time we are out on a job , when people leave for home in the morning they come and say I didn’t need my earplugs, cause it sounded so f🤬cking good , am glad.


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Oh christ, not this again. Sorry I'm late to the party, but I thought I'd try and redress the balance.

Yes, we now own 6 of the X8 Dante, and they perform flawlessly whatever we ask of them.  I shy away from gigs obsessed by bass bass bass these days, although when we have needed it these X8's do deliver, seemingly as much as you want.

What they were excellent at driving recently was a large distributed outdoor sound system in Nottingham, where we had to cover 10k people in the round.  On a 2 day install for a 45 minute show, we put in 600 metres of Cat 5 cable, with Cisco switches and access points, all run from a QL1 on Dante.  With a man with an Ipad at each hang or stack controlling levels.  Headroom for days and no issues.

I'm not sure how else I would have wanted to rig and control that lot without native Dante?  As a package, Powersoft seem to have smashed it out of the park in terms of all round capability vs value for money.

We have also just started swapping our smaller systems and monitor rigs over to Powersoft T604 amps, which offer half the power of an X4, with a less sophisticated power supply, but for much less money.  I'll let you know how we get on with these, but the first few gigs have gone very well with the one we are trying out.

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Shhhh they’re not bloody announced yet
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Originally posted by toastyghost toastyghost wrote:

Shhhh they’re not bloody announced yet

Never say I didn't warn you Lol , they can't keep it down LOLLOLLOL
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Originally posted by Father-Francis Father-Francis wrote:

Originally posted by toastyghost toastyghost wrote:

Shhhh they’re not bloody announced yet


Never say I didn't warn you Lol , they can't keep it down LOLLOLLOL


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