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levyte357-
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Would love to hear how this goes, playing Roots/Dub Reggae, with plenty of 40hz content.
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tmg
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From what I've heard it's not quite a bridged X8. Not so simple as that.
I've yet to have an experience with any Powersoft amp I've used where anything has felt underpowered or like the amps are constraining the systems power output in the real world. Also I ran a whole FOH System and 8 way monitor package last week from 6u of amps which kept my Van pack smaller and on weight.
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levyte357-
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"Think" me and mate, will be doing Rodigan again this year, in North London. If we are, I'll be pushing to bring 6x of My 1851 loaded, Lev .44 Scoops. Drooling at possibility, of driving them with 1x X4L.
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wilidapili
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For the price of an X4L one could get an X8. Bridged at 4ohm the rated watts per channel are higher on the X8, but peak voltage is rated higher on the X4L. I need to do more research into voltage since that’s what everybody seems to be saying actually matters. In the mean time, could somebody explain why an X4L would be a better choice than the X8 or vice versa, if we think that the price would be exactly the same?
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Timebomb
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From what ive heard they are quite different, the X4L can run into 2 ohms, where as a X8 can run bridged into 4 ohms.
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toastyghost
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An X4L isn't just a bridged X8. It has a modified power supply, some changes to rails management and custom firmware to mitigate the extra load on components. It all depends on whether you would rather have the flexibility of being able to run 8 channels on some shows, or the brute current of the X4L. X4L should spank K20 no problem especially in terms of limiting to maximise the box, if you have the chops to build a rpoper preset. It can easily put out enough juice to murder any driver pair in any box type, make no mistake. If people actually looked into the real world thermal thresholds of their components both in and out of the box, and considered crest factor and peak output ratios for decent dynamics, rather than blinkeredly thinking they're 'giving the drivers 3000 watts each bruv' or 'it's only at 50%!' type chat, then it would be lovely. As ever though, get one, try it for yourself. Edited by toastyghost - 06 August 2019 at 3:21pm |
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Elliot Thompson
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I am surprised how quiet it has been in regards to this amplifier.
Powersoft claims 200v RMS with up to 300v Peaks (More like 282) with no load of course and, 8200 watts (Burst) each channel for 20mS every 500 mS @ 2 ohms.
Is it too new or too expensive why, there is no chatter on the Powersoft X4L?
Considering the K20 was introduced a decade ago, you would think there would be more chatter on this amplifier.
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FOO
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Get some PLM instead. Then you are up to industry standard and always rider friendly.
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csg
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i would say that in a professional environment either the PLM or Powersoft X platform would be accepted, unless proprietary powered system controllers are required ( L Acoustics / D&B etc)
that said, PLM is getting a little old in the tooth now, and unfortunately the fact that none of the smaller Lab Gruppen products share the same processing / control platform isa work / headache creator, whereas all Powersoft DSP integrated products operate on the same platform. Personally i don't have a need for the X4L, we don't have any speakers in our stock that require greater power than the X4 or X8 provide, so the X4L is of limited use.
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Elliot Thompson
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I would imagine only time will tell if the need of such power is wanted or not. Anyone remember when MC2 offered their E 90 amplifier around 10 years ago? It offered similar burst ratings as the Powersoft X4L in a two channel version. MC2 no longer offers the E 90. Possibly a lack of demand when it was in production, a lack of marketing, or a combination of the two. Best Regards,
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toastyghost
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I've seen more P1 and Newton at FOH than Lake in the past year or two. |
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