Bristol Clash - RC1 v Void by NPA
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Topic: Bristol Clash - RC1 v Void by NPA
Posted By: toastyghost
Subject: Bristol Clash - RC1 v Void by NPA
Date Posted: 02 November 2017 at 9:51pm
 Bristol Sound Clash - Part 1 - RC1 vs Void powered by Neuron ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ � Date: 22/12/17 � Location: Trinity Centre, Trinity Road, Bristol. BS2 0NW � Price: Earlybirds £12.50 / Tier 1 £15.50 / Tier 2 £17.50 � Tickets: Afterdark.co ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ Fresh new night to hit Bristol where we are putting Sound System against Sound System to see who comes out on top, winner stays on. Opening proceedings will be two absolute heavyweights in Void & RC1 who both will be bringing a wall of bins to fill out the Trinity Centre. Each stack will run down the sides of the venue both facing each other. No Lineup will be advertised before the night. Both rigs will be bringing an absolute stella lineup of artists but for us to do this and not affect their committments to other nights throughout the city we won't be announcing the acts until you arrive at the venue. Music styles will be from Dub all the way through to Drum & Bass. Hosted By Krazy https://www.facebook.com/events/1791900734436386/ 
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Posted By: BJtheDJ
Date Posted: 03 November 2017 at 2:38am
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I shall be doing the next-to-last of my Christmas hotel gigs that night. Please put up plenty of pics EDIT: Of both systems  ------------- It's a difficult choice, would you rather have: A: A vegan son. B: An OnlyFans daughter |
Posted By: T_!
Date Posted: 03 November 2017 at 9:28am
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sh*ttttttttttttt ------------- Macabre Unit/ Stink Like Sock/ Sub.FM/ |
Posted By: rosssss224
Date Posted: 03 November 2017 at 10:13am
| any limits on number of boxes etc? Tempted to jump on train for this one! |
Posted By: Dub Specialist Sound
Date Posted: 03 November 2017 at 10:14am
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Yes i want to reach this man gona be interesting ------------- Musical Roots Reggae Vibration is Life! for music is sound...sound is vibration...vibration is energy... and energy begets life. Therein lies my passion!...MUSIC IS LIFE... |
Posted By: concept-10
Date Posted: 03 November 2017 at 11:18am
| See you there jas:) |
Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 03 November 2017 at 3:47pm
Pretty much limited by what we can drag out of the wall – which is a 63A 3 phase. Each.
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rosssss224 wrote:Posted By: munkey
Date Posted: 03 November 2017 at 4:58pm
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Are you going to tell us what you'll be bringing? -------------  the midtops!
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 03 November 2017 at 5:53pm
Look closer to the right of the photo 
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Posted By: munkey
Date Posted: 03 November 2017 at 7:06pm
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Yes. I would presume stereo incubus stacks. But I hate presumptions ------------- the midtops!
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Posted By: Dub Specialist Sound
Date Posted: 03 November 2017 at 7:38pm
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We going to see a lot a CA18s lol ------------- Musical Roots Reggae Vibration is Life! for music is sound...sound is vibration...vibration is energy... and energy begets life. Therein lies my passion!...MUSIC IS LIFE... |
Posted By: IainB
Date Posted: 03 November 2017 at 7:57pm
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6 hour round trip.... but I think it will be worth it to hear the Incubus
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Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 03 November 2017 at 9:17pm
We both have a full side wall of the venue, facing each other. Expect it to be filled. |
Posted By: JonB67
Date Posted: 03 November 2017 at 9:18pm
| I am so tempted to come up! |
Posted By: luton_soundman
Date Posted: 03 November 2017 at 10:02pm
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Not much of a clash then as the whole wall with anything will destroy the punters and venue. Let alone decent equipment boxes drivers etc. So really its about which system cares the least about the punters and is willing to blow their ear drums. Roots and dub systems go in there with 6 sub cabs each. ------------- Sound Hire/Sales new/used equipment. |
Posted By: spongebob
Date Posted: 03 November 2017 at 10:14pm
+1 I'm sure it will be fun but I hope both sides maintain some level of professionalism Trinity is also a lovely venue for Bristol so I hope there aren't issues as a result of this. |
Posted By: SamV
Date Posted: 04 November 2017 at 2:24am
| Got my tickets. Anyone wanna recommend a hotel nearish? |
Posted By: BJtheDJ
Date Posted: 04 November 2017 at 3:19am
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It's very near the City Centre there, so many large chain hotels, if you go up west Street/Old Market (A420 into the city center) you'll hit Old Market roundabout; with the Marriott City Centre acoss the roundabout on the right. Alternately go back to the Lawrence Hill roundabout (right by the Trinity Centre) and take the dual c'way back to the M32 and turn left to go into the City Centre. Follow that straight into town and follow the dual c'way round to the right - you'll get to St James Barton roundabout (with The Bearpit in the centre of it). On that roundabout you have the choice of a Premier Inn, Holiday Inn City Centre (I'll be in there doing a Christmas party until 1am, with the least amount of kit that I can get away with), and right next door to that a Hampton by Hilton. When my daughter comes to visit she normally stays at one of the b&b's that line one side of Cheltenham Road (A38) ------------- It's a difficult choice, would you rather have: A: A vegan son. B: An OnlyFans daughter |
Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 04 November 2017 at 5:33am
We do work there other times too remember. I know we might have broken Lakota in the past but we were young and foolish! I’ve actually got three calibrated SPL mics in our pack... On our side at least it’ll be filled partly because the cabinets are so huge. |
Posted By: SouthwestCNC
Date Posted: 04 November 2017 at 8:31am
| So who’s judging this clash? Need somebody that will not be bias but knows what they are hearing. Good luck!! |
Posted By: spongebob
Date Posted: 04 November 2017 at 9:30am
The crowd ala SPL scream-o-meter |
Posted By: Jo bg
Date Posted: 04 November 2017 at 9:56am
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Seriously considering joining from Italy! I have read little about RC1 but i have followed NPA here on SP. if i get it right i am expecting ... old irons (ca-18 on subs) vs Powersoft k20 / x one large band reflex ? vs separated kick sub horns or hybrids Never heard Incubus or rc1, now Toasty if you could set up an afterpaty with some Danley gear, that would make the pilgrimage incredible  Jokes apart, is there some Danley installed in Bristol? Is the 4 AM closing enforced or usually the party goes on? i see a return flight SAT 7.20 from bristol airport, but it would be a shame to leave the place with the party going on... |
Posted By: jacethebase
Date Posted: 04 November 2017 at 10:05am
I would expect Jamill from the Trinity to employee Paul King or one of his boys to be on site to act in the interests of the Trinity Centre. ------------- www.wedding-production.co.uk www.stage2sound.com |
Posted By: jammin75
Date Posted: 04 November 2017 at 10:21am
pa sound clash  wonder how many drivers on bass ??? ------------- feel the vibes !!! "Who Feels it Knows it" Strong like Lion |
Posted By: SouthwestCNC
Date Posted: 04 November 2017 at 11:58am
Ahh i see.. Kick youre mate in the nuts or bring a dog whistle gottcha ;) |
Posted By: djkeet
Date Posted: 04 November 2017 at 7:40pm
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Nah not this time supporting roots do Carnival Arts Luton same day ------------- Soundbite |
Posted By: mk2_ginger_biscuit69
Date Posted: 04 November 2017 at 9:25pm
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any discount tickets for people who want to check out the first hour or two, staying sober to drive home before the drum&bass begins? ------------- ''Remember that the object of a subwoofer is to enhance the output of your main speakers, not overpower it'' ''Dubstep - an elongated electronic fart'' |
Posted By: IainB
Date Posted: 04 November 2017 at 9:54pm
LOL - im not the only one then missus was saying 'are we staying over' and im like.... nope!Im only going a) to hear the incubus and 2) to see what a 'proper' system sounds like... must be mad
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Posted By: njw
Date Posted: 04 November 2017 at 10:27pm
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Awesome! Probably a once in a lifetime chance to experience two highly revered sound systems in one venue, but alas, I'm hiring the beastly Peavey system out that night, if you listen carefully in Bristol you'll probably be able to hear it from over the water.................
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Posted By: Sypa
Date Posted: 04 November 2017 at 11:33pm
| LoL |
Posted By: Hemisphere
Date Posted: 05 November 2017 at 10:33am
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Yes I think that sounds highly likely. If you're thinking of going make sure to wear a yellow builder's hat and safety goggles to defend against falling rigs and bits of rigs.
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Posted By: JonB67
Date Posted: 05 November 2017 at 4:28pm
| You'll be the star turn if they play out the ymca.... |
Posted By: njw
Date Posted: 05 November 2017 at 5:09pm
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I'm giggling to myself here thinking about the ymca being played at war volume on a huge system.
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Posted By: djeddie
Date Posted: 05 November 2017 at 6:30pm
Ditto! ------------- Chas n Dave : it's like Drum and Bass but with beards. E=mc² ±3dB |
Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 05 November 2017 at 6:43pm
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Well we already did ABBA in Croatia. Had all the security dancing
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Posted By: SamV
Date Posted: 10 November 2017 at 2:06am
| Before I book a train, anyone driving up from London? |
Posted By: Old king coles
Date Posted: 02 December 2017 at 9:38pm
| This is going to be epic! |
Posted By: concept-10
Date Posted: 12 December 2017 at 10:26am
| I thought this was a direct shootout between Incubus and RC1, i here there is going to be a stack of Nexus xls between the Incubus stacks, after reading some comments that Incubus will flatten RC1 i wonder why Kyle feels it needs a stack of 21inch Nexus xl as well. |
Posted By: cravings
Date Posted: 12 December 2017 at 10:33am
| i got the impression they're both bringing the biggest systems they can, kinda. i doubt it'll be a very technical clash. but should be fun. i've considered coming over.. flights have got pricey though and it's a busy season for guys like us, so i doubt i'll make it. |
Posted By: rosssss224
Date Posted: 12 December 2017 at 10:37am
Probably because he can?
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Posted By: SamV
Date Posted: 12 December 2017 at 10:48am
| I get the feeling its the sort of gig where there'll be a wall of subs for looks but only 8 plugged in lol. |
Posted By: concept-10
Date Posted: 12 December 2017 at 10:55am
But then it's not Incubus, it's Incubus plus a stack of 21inch horns.
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Posted By: cravings
Date Posted: 12 December 2017 at 11:44am
| i've just re-read all the promo for this.. i think you've filled in some gaps yourself. clearly just says void vs rc1. |
Posted By: concept-10
Date Posted: 12 December 2017 at 11:53am
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Ok
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Posted By: IainB
Date Posted: 12 December 2017 at 6:42pm
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Im just hoping it doesnt snow! That will mightily piss me off. First sound clash I have ever attended, have HIGH hopes of the Inky
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Posted By: jammin75
Date Posted: 13 December 2017 at 9:45pm
roots system wud flatten both of them ------------- feel the vibes !!! "Who Feels it Knows it" Strong like Lion |
Posted By: concept-10
Date Posted: 14 December 2017 at 7:41am
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Especially inuke powered ;) |
Posted By: snowflake
Date Posted: 14 December 2017 at 12:26pm
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will definitely be at this - look forward to putting some faces to names. |
Posted By: gen0me
Date Posted: 17 December 2017 at 11:49am
| How about parking there? Is there something 100% secure? |
Posted By: BJtheDJ
Date Posted: 17 December 2017 at 12:09pm
It's a former church with a large amount of church estate surreounding it. Pretty certain that you can see a lot of it on GoogleMaps http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=trinity+centre+bristol&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b&gfe_rd=cr&dcr=0&ei=PGA2Wu-1Aq_P8Aehx72AAg" rel="nofollow - http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=trinity+centre+bristol&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b&gfe_rd=cr&dcr=0&ei=PGA2Wu-1Aq_P8Aehx72AAg ------------- It's a difficult choice, would you rather have: A: A vegan son. B: An OnlyFans daughter |
Posted By: snowflake
Date Posted: 17 December 2017 at 12:27pm
they don't usually allow parking on site. I always park on Trinity Street opposite or on West Street. why 100% secure? you bringing vehicle with kit in? |
Posted By: gen0me
Date Posted: 17 December 2017 at 12:34pm
| It crossed my mind. Bristol is on the way to Southwest. I could drive once instead of twice. |
Posted By: Old king coles
Date Posted: 17 December 2017 at 12:34pm
| Just park in Cabot circus...it's not far from there |
Posted By: 4D
Date Posted: 17 December 2017 at 2:15pm
Rule 101... Never leave kit in a van un-attended. Simple ------------- DMZ. "The bass was intense. Girls were literally running up to stand next to the subs" |
Posted By: jacethebase
Date Posted: 17 December 2017 at 2:21pm
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Get there early enough the car park at the trinity centre is a pay and display car park. It’s not very big though way less than 100 cars. Over the far side of the trinity is where most supplier vans park as you can back up tight to the fence. Avoid the dark back street of parking around the old market area as it’s not great. There is nice semi sensible parking that will take a LWB sprinter by the grain barge but it’s a mission across town. ------------- www.wedding-production.co.uk www.stage2sound.com |
Posted By: Hemisphere
Date Posted: 17 December 2017 at 3:43pm
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Rule 102: Don't discuss 'secure' parking options for your unattended gear van on a public forum. ------------- Phase 1: Post on Speakerplans Phase 2: ????? Phase 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zc4bGkU05o" rel="nofollow - Profit! |
Posted By: Cyklist
Date Posted: 21 December 2017 at 10:19pm
heading over from irl for this tomorrow, if anyones around for a pint and some audio related banter pre gig give me a shout  ------------- purple monkey dishwasher |
Posted By: Phil B
Date Posted: 21 December 2017 at 10:53pm
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Ok seeing as I'm on the hot side of the world and not a chance I'll be there .....I require 1) Photos 2) Calibrated SPL readings A & C weighted for both systems 3) Pictures of Kyle eating humble pie if he loses... .p. ------------- Mostly harmless.... except if catering is shut. Solar Sound System Shennanigans.. http://diyhifi.biz/" rel="nofollow - http://diyhifi.biz/ |
Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 21 December 2017 at 10:59pm
I’ll do better than that, I’ll send you recordings we both know a clash ain’t about the rig but the fire in the bag
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Posted By: Phil B
Date Posted: 22 December 2017 at 1:37am
And the " chatting" hope you've got a dope lyricist to entertain the masses ? ------------- Mostly harmless.... except if catering is shut. Solar Sound System Shennanigans.. http://diyhifi.biz/" rel="nofollow - http://diyhifi.biz/ |
Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 22 December 2017 at 5:50am
Not been to Manchester in a while have you? Google Levelz... that’s my crew |
Posted By: Old king coles
Date Posted: 22 December 2017 at 4:59pm
| Rc1 are doing a speaker demo at the black swan in bristol first if anyone fancies it |
Posted By: KingGwarn
Date Posted: 22 December 2017 at 8:55pm
Jon from RC1 there with his stack...  ------------- Soundman inna Brighton town https://www.facebook.com/KingGwarnSoundSystem/" rel="nofollow - King Gwarn Sound System |
Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 23 December 2017 at 6:25am
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Well that was stupidly good fun, hats off to RC1, their rig was a monster. If we had their spot it would have been a fairer fight but Jon has built a beast. No stranger to heavy boxes, but you definitely need your weetabix for them racks and stacks. I’ll see what I can clear of the recording because we knew 16 of their bins put us at a serious handicap, and some of the plates our friends did were immense. You genuinely had to be there. Sorry to all SP people I barely saw, was having a mare doing multiple jobs at once.  Check their new active stuff - it’s not weekend warrior tackle. |
Posted By: gen0me
Date Posted: 23 December 2017 at 6:48am
You ve had too much painfull ~70hz too few 35hz. At first I thought mid was distored and you had too hard crossovers but later it went away. The pressure was just soo unimaginable on tops. Anyway too flat on this spl level. What were the crossovers? 
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Posted By: Aman Gebru
Date Posted: 23 December 2017 at 6:50am
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Why did you use 3 types of bass cabs running the same band. And I'm not including the Hyperfolds here as they would have been used for upper bass. Surely you got smashed because RC 1 didn't run with different cabs doing the same band. There ain't no FIR filters that can sum different sub cabs over there entire bandwidth. |
Posted By: spongebob
Date Posted: 23 December 2017 at 7:04am
A fun night had by all.   
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Posted By: Aman Gebru
Date Posted: 23 December 2017 at 7:12am
 This clash was happening on the same night between Elements 5 and Void. The Void system smashed it and even had to turn off 2 bass cabs later on in the night to make it a bit farer. 12 Stasys X V2 against RC 1's 16, and you would have killed them. |
Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 23 December 2017 at 8:26am
Having a 4m cavity behind the stack basically meant we had our rig halfway into the room, so there was some serious cancellation off the back wall. Not ideal. In future clashes will need to have split up sets but we wanted a wall of bass effect. Also we use this rig for Outlook in a similar configuration so it was nice to bring it on home turf. The RC1 isn’t your average bin trust me, there’s a lot more inside than just some cones. |
Posted By: Old king coles
Date Posted: 23 December 2017 at 10:39am
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Absolutely epic night! Big up to both crews rc1 definitely had it...bass pressure was unreal!
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Posted By: simonp1100
Date Posted: 23 December 2017 at 1:41pm
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What amplifiers were being used to run the systems ??? |
Posted By: SamV
Date Posted: 23 December 2017 at 1:48pm
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Brilliant night. I much preffered the Void sound, it was a lot more balanced and smoother. The RC1 bins were fun though. Sadly most of the Void bass was ending up in the cloakroom but there was a hella lot of it, it was stealing the air outta my lungs in front of the stacks at one point. Was also pleasantly surprised by how good the incubus air arrays were. Gain a lot of respect for RC1 though (apparently they were only playing at 5% ) seriously though it's a great system to be stood in front of. That said at the end of the night I much preferred the plates played on the RC1, but preffered the Void system.
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Posted By: King George
Date Posted: 23 December 2017 at 2:19pm
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I'd like to see a sound clash where the systems are powered from a slot meter. You have as long as £1 lasts to impress the crowd. Wonder how long those CA18s would go for.
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Posted By: jammin75
Date Posted: 23 December 2017 at 2:41pm
------------- feel the vibes !!! "Who Feels it Knows it" Strong like Lion |
Posted By: IainB
Date Posted: 23 December 2017 at 2:45pm
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Enjoyed that So glad I got to hear the Void rig, clarity was (to me) amazing. RC1 well that was immense, never had bass in my teeth before
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Posted By: SamV
Date Posted: 23 December 2017 at 4:17pm
| What was the limit on the venue? If I'm being honest I would have expected more out of both stacks. |
Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 23 December 2017 at 5:15pm
I’ll just say that we were way, way over it. The venue owner was alternately screwing and chill. People management! But we hit 145dBC at many points. |
Posted By: jammin75
Date Posted: 23 December 2017 at 5:34pm
more what ??? ------------- feel the vibes !!! "Who Feels it Knows it" Strong like Lion |
Posted By: gen0me
Date Posted: 24 December 2017 at 6:47am
Oh thats why my ears were distorting those incubus mids  Yea incubus was flatter thanks to this rc1 was more user friendly. With mids little in back and no painfull high bass One more artistic photo  Btw I loved the crossover mid high on RC1. Was perfect. |
Posted By: nickyburnell
Date Posted: 24 December 2017 at 12:58pm
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???????????????????????????????????????????? Merry Christmas  ------------- It's everything, not everythink! |
Posted By: Hemisphere
Date Posted: 24 December 2017 at 1:14pm
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So did either of the rigs get destroyed with a hammer by an angry engineer in the end or not? ------------- Phase 1: Post on Speakerplans Phase 2: ????? Phase 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zc4bGkU05o" rel="nofollow - Profit! |
Posted By: Sinai Sound
Date Posted: 24 December 2017 at 1:23pm
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Still think 16 x XV2 vs 16 X RC1 subs would have been an more comparable fight Though I wasn't there so can't comment
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Posted By: valve head777
Date Posted: 24 December 2017 at 2:40pm
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I think you just did! I wasn't there so I'm not joining this discussion. ------------- Freedom of choice, choice of freedom. |
Posted By: concept-10
Date Posted: 24 December 2017 at 3:28pm
Lol, so you don't think 18 21 inch drivers on sub, plus the hyperfolds was enough? Kyle has said elsewhere that two Incubus rigs may not beat Rc1, I was there with the Rc1 rig and there was a lot more to come if needed, most look at the bins and assume they are just double 18 reflex, they are very clever hybrids designed and built by Jon, once you have heard them going hard at it at 30hz with massive impact you know they are special, just ask Kyle.
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Posted By: gen0me
Date Posted: 24 December 2017 at 3:32pm
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So whats inside RC1? Was shining there with flashlight (including tops), couldnt see a thing. Should have put my hand across the brs to check if they are real Are those 18"? 21"? 24"? |
Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 24 December 2017 at 3:43pm
Not quite what I said, more that we couldn’t afford to bring that in with budget available even if we wanted to. But it’s still way less ‘drivers’ even if it’s similar physical size
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Posted By: gen0me
Date Posted: 24 December 2017 at 4:02pm
So "you" dont want to be called no 1 soundsystem despite budget? 
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Posted By: concept-10
Date Posted: 24 December 2017 at 4:11pm
| Garry asked if both Incubus systems could beat it, you replied maybe maybe not, it's on Rc1s Facebook page 😁 |
Posted By: Sinai Sound
Date Posted: 24 December 2017 at 8:03pm
32 x drivers in the same boxes playing the same frequency band (RC1) vs 16 x XV2 = (32 drivers) playing the same frequency band (void) Just seems like a more "fun" comparison to me The void setup that kyle took, is still multiple different drivers and boxes playing different (overlapping) frequency bands, that needs manipulation to sound "right". Kyle is a genius at doing this no doubt, but 16 boxes all playing the same frequency (RC1) needs less magic to sound "right" Hence why having 16 x XV2s would have been more "interesting", or even 16 x Psychos .......
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Posted By: gen0me
Date Posted: 24 December 2017 at 8:56pm
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Just a suggestion. Why don`t you invite a star? Someone who would agree playing right tunes for Clash. We will have more amazing show and you will sell tickets for a soundsystem
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Posted By: Requiem
Date Posted: 24 December 2017 at 9:00pm
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I know the crowd voted RC1 but all bass with tops so distorted that you couldnt make out the lyrics doesn't do it for me... Void had immense depth and clarity compared to Rc1, so Void won it all day for me. They had unfortunate positioning though, if the soundsystems had swapped sides I have no doubt that Neuron would of won. I would also be interested to see rc1 16x bins vs. Void 16x Stasys Xv2 ------------- www.requiem-soundsystem.com Custom Martin Audio WSX, USB & CSG Soundsystem based in Bristol |
Posted By: jammin75
Date Posted: 24 December 2017 at 9:55pm
i know roots systems are  even with 4 box on bass how wud say a 16 scoop system fare up in there compared to the pa systems does anyone play out with more than 8 ? ------------- feel the vibes !!! "Who Feels it Knows it" Strong like Lion |
Posted By: wires
Date Posted: 24 December 2017 at 10:05pm
Were the tops actually distorting or was the amount of bass making it seem like they were distorting? |
Posted By: simonp1100
Date Posted: 24 December 2017 at 10:30pm
Or were the amplifiers clipping ??? |
Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 24 December 2017 at 11:47pm
Eh? Both sides had serious headliners who played in secret for way less than usual fees - which they all spent on specials and dubplates just for this show. |
Posted By: gen0me
Date Posted: 24 December 2017 at 11:49pm
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Sorry u get me wrong. Inviting star so there would be budget from ticket for bringing bigger system
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Posted By: gen0me
Date Posted: 24 December 2017 at 11:54pm
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I liked their playing and mcs were also amazing! Its just that I WANT MORE! Btw. Personally I paid 2,5 times the ticket on transport. Although many ppl were locals. Are those RC1 basses tapped horns? Ports are fake? (Ups im not sober) |
Posted By: RC1 Sound System
Date Posted: 25 December 2017 at 12:19am
Just saw this thread, nice to see an interest in what we were doing! Mids and tops were peaking about -12 db from limit thresholds on the Omnidrive, they were not turned up loud at all and there was no significant distortion whatsoever. The mid/top did seem distorted at times on the dance floor because the bass/sub was overmodulating peoples ears (exceeding the ear’s x-max so to speak). This was less of a problem with the other system as they played less heavy on the bottom end. Not ideal, but what could I do about it? The crowd wanted the bassweight. Can anyone offer a solution to providing bassweight so heavy that it overmodulates the ears, but without it causing the ears to perceive the music as distorted? Surely other people on here with powerful rigs must be familiar with this problem? I noted a comment earlier in the thread about flatness of response as well. We can play the rig with a flat response, but it is not the most pleasing of sounds at high spl. We deliberately eq the rig a little differently to be more sympathetic to the human ear and make it as pleasurable as possible to listen to at high spl. Also, of course as this was a bass soundclash we also applied a bit of boost at the bottom with a 12db/octive boost from 50hz down, so by the time the music got down past 40 and towards 30hz the pressure was ridiculous, and we were “digging the graves” as another system owner told us on the night! Was a really fun night, and reminded me how lucky and proud I am to be involved in the Sound System scene with a respectable rig that I designed and hand built myself from scratch (even if the shiny grills and logos are pig ugly haha!). That’s what “sound system” is all about. Happy Christmas everyone, I hope you all have good ones, and I hope to have the pleasure of catching up with some of you next year :-) |
Posted By: Sypa
Date Posted: 25 December 2017 at 1:19am
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Wouldn't say they ugly, memorable definately. What's the - 3db point on the boxes if you may disclose? |
Posted By: gen0me
Date Posted: 25 December 2017 at 1:24am
| And does tops have passive crossover mid-hi? |