BEST SPEAKER FOR HEAVY BASS REGGAE
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Topic: BEST SPEAKER FOR HEAVY BASS REGGAE
Posted By: JAH
Subject: BEST SPEAKER FOR HEAVY BASS REGGAE
Date Posted: 04 January 2018 at 1:35am
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WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST SPEAKERS FOR VERY HEAVY BASS REGGAE? WOULD DUAL 15 INCH SPEAKERS SOUND BEST?
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Posted By: Conanski
Date Posted: 04 January 2018 at 2:55am
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Are you talking about something to go above the scoops? |
Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 04 January 2018 at 10:29am
These...   ------------- Global Depopulation - Alive and Killing. |
JAH wrote:Posted By: Dub Specialist Sound
Date Posted: 04 January 2018 at 12:28pm
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Nah get Valve amp, use fane cresendos / goodmans 18s 200/100w around in the 70s drivers :-) ------------- Musical Roots Reggae Vibration is Life! for music is sound...sound is vibration...vibration is energy... and energy begets life. Therein lies my passion!...MUSIC IS LIFE... |
Posted By: Dub Specialist Sound
Date Posted: 04 January 2018 at 12:39pm
Real 25/30Hz sub with ease    ------------- Musical Roots Reggae Vibration is Life! for music is sound...sound is vibration...vibration is energy... and energy begets life. Therein lies my passion!...MUSIC IS LIFE... |
Posted By: concept-10
Date Posted: 04 January 2018 at 12:53pm
| Look awesome Jay 😀 |
Posted By: odc04r
Date Posted: 04 January 2018 at 12:54pm
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Couple of 12" car subs should do it. |
Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 04 January 2018 at 12:57pm
I bought a used JL Car sub amp, and Alpine 12" sub in box, and promptly lost them in my house for a year !! ------------- Global Depopulation - Alive and Killing. |
Posted By: valve head777
Date Posted: 04 January 2018 at 2:14pm
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The tops section in HEAVY BASS REGGAE is very important, so I'd suggest the classic Fane bullet. ------------- Freedom of choice, choice of freedom. |
Posted By: odc04r
Date Posted: 04 January 2018 at 2:27pm
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Nothing else though. |
Posted By: valve head777
Date Posted: 04 January 2018 at 3:39pm
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Oh yes, you have to have the classic 'boom 'n ting' sound for HEAVY BASS REGGAE. ------------- Freedom of choice, choice of freedom. |
Posted By: valve head777
Date Posted: 04 January 2018 at 3:42pm
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One could go far with double 15 and a bullet. ------------- Freedom of choice, choice of freedom. |
Posted By: BASSHORSE
Date Posted: 04 January 2018 at 3:48pm
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bad to the bone dubs,,mega top notch
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Posted By: BASSHORSE
Date Posted: 04 January 2018 at 3:49pm
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Posted By: valve head777
Date Posted: 04 January 2018 at 6:49pm
------------- Freedom of choice, choice of freedom. |
Posted By: jbl_man
Date Posted: 04 January 2018 at 7:46pm
Love that photo,excellent work Jay. ------------- Be seeing you. |
Posted By: Conanski
Date Posted: 04 January 2018 at 8:29pm
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Topic swerve.. Pet peave of the day.. audio related videos recorded via a violently overdriven cell phone mic. I would have loved to have been able to clearly hear what was playing in that clip.
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Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 04 January 2018 at 9:01pm
Sellotape over the fones Mic helps to attenuate a bit and can give a much easier on the ear recording. ...works a treat at concerts too!! ------------- If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down. |
Posted By: valve head777
Date Posted: 04 January 2018 at 9:15pm
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Hey good tip there Mini!! I'll try that when next at Shaka... ------------- Freedom of choice, choice of freedom. |
Posted By: jammin75
Date Posted: 04 January 2018 at 10:02pm
nice midbass boxes there scoop is KING for reggae and these are  no need for 20 or 30 drivers to shake the place ------------- feel the vibes !!! "Who Feels it Knows it" Strong like Lion |
Posted By: jammin75
Date Posted: 04 January 2018 at 10:13pm
 shame i cudnt link up that day  lovely set i cud do with that at my yard meditation vibration  ------------- feel the vibes !!! "Who Feels it Knows it" Strong like Lion |
Posted By: valve head777
Date Posted: 04 January 2018 at 11:47pm
 Boom 'n ting------------- Freedom of choice, choice of freedom. |
Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 04 January 2018 at 11:56pm
:-)
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Posted By: JAH
Date Posted: 05 January 2018 at 12:54am
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Posted By: rish
Date Posted: 05 January 2018 at 9:31am
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Posted By: _Natty_
Date Posted: 09 January 2018 at 11:01am
I heard a copy of them in rototom dancehall area...red box bass like this...never heard something loud and deep...like these any idea about the speaker?
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Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 09 January 2018 at 11:20am
| Those would have been the ClearSound box: http://clearsoundco.org/products/product/95" rel="nofollow - http://clearsoundco.org/products/product/95 |
Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 09 January 2018 at 11:48am
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Yeah, Clear sound are way bigger. Huge boxes. And 18inch, unlike ours that is 21 inch. So close, but not... ------------- Marjan Milosevic MM-Acoustics www.mm-acoustics.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/MM-Acoustics/608901282527713 |
Posted By: Sinai Sound
Date Posted: 09 January 2018 at 11:58am
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18Sound double 21" Murder
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Posted By: JAH
Date Posted: 09 January 2018 at 12:36pm
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saw a dual 24 inch woofer box are they any good available in uk? never knew 24 inch speakers were made https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPNM3I2usug" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPNM3I2usug
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Posted By: _Natty_
Date Posted: 09 January 2018 at 1:07pm
a true dat... just one more question...in your opinion 2 double 21" are comparable with 4 18" scoop?
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Posted By: Elliot Thompson
Date Posted: 09 January 2018 at 1:17pm
Those speakers offer dual voice coils ranging from 4 ohms – 1 ohm and, offer a price range from £520.00 – £1850.00
Honestly, unless you are playing modern Dancehall Reggae (Note: Alkaline era) that goes very low, you would be wasting your money getting a pair of them.
24 inch woofers have been around since the 1980’s and 30 inches decades before that.
Best Regards, ------------- Elliot Thompson |
Posted By: JAH
Date Posted: 09 January 2018 at 1:20pm
These speakers must pull a lot of electric then ------------- COPY AND PASTE THE LINK TO BUY REGGAE https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/jah_vaults/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562 |
Posted By: Elliot Thompson
Date Posted: 09 January 2018 at 1:27pm
They are not for those who are worrying how to power them properly more so how much current the amplifier will be pulling from your electrical circuit. Home Theatre guys that watch movies in their dungeon is the market these speakers are aimed for. Best Regards, ------------- Elliot Thompson |
Posted By: Hemisphere
Date Posted: 09 January 2018 at 3:26pm
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Actual theatres also like to use 24" and 30" drivers. ------------- Phase 1: Post on Speakerplans Phase 2: ????? Phase 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zc4bGkU05o" rel="nofollow - Profit! |
Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 09 January 2018 at 4:35pm
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Lot's of people suggesting huge cabs, 24" drivers, 4x 18s in 1x cab. Not one asked OP, about crew size, Transport, storage, bass amps to be used!!! 2x man crew can shift/string up 4-6x 18" Scoop system easy. And that will cover 800 people, no problem, if decent Scoops, Amps, Mid tops, processing... This is why many Reggae Systems "Still use Scoops". Now for Madonna/Beyonce concert, maybe not... ------------- Global Depopulation - Alive and Killing. |
Posted By: Hemisphere
Date Posted: 09 January 2018 at 5:14pm
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It was the OP who brought up the idea of 24" drivers. ------------- Phase 1: Post on Speakerplans Phase 2: ????? Phase 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zc4bGkU05o" rel="nofollow - Profit! |
Posted By: Dub Specialist Sound
Date Posted: 10 January 2018 at 3:28pm
he did say
------------- Musical Roots Reggae Vibration is Life! for music is sound...sound is vibration...vibration is energy... and energy begets life. Therein lies my passion!...MUSIC IS LIFE... |
Posted By: JAH
Date Posted: 12 January 2018 at 11:40pm
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I take it scoops are the winners by far ------------- COPY AND PASTE THE LINK TO BUY REGGAE https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/jah_vaults/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562 |
Posted By: jammin75
Date Posted: 13 January 2018 at 12:00am
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for spl and output king by miles ------------- feel the vibes !!! "Who Feels it Knows it" Strong like Lion |
Posted By: JAH
Date Posted: 13 January 2018 at 12:05am
KING OF THE RING ------------- COPY AND PASTE THE LINK TO BUY REGGAE https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/jah_vaults/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562 |
Posted By: valve head777
Date Posted: 13 January 2018 at 12:23am
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can't dismiss a nice large and low double 18 bass reflex tho, for pure tone and weight. Not every sound has to have scoops. ------------- Freedom of choice, choice of freedom. |
Posted By: jammin75
Date Posted: 13 January 2018 at 12:28am
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agreed scoops are more of a weapon of mass destruction ------------- feel the vibes !!! "Who Feels it Knows it" Strong like Lion |
Posted By: Hemisphere
Date Posted: 13 January 2018 at 10:22am
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Main downside of scoops (and horns in general) is they won't play nicely with a lot of venues (even coverage of bass). ------------- Phase 1: Post on Speakerplans Phase 2: ????? Phase 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zc4bGkU05o" rel="nofollow - Profit! |
Posted By: Dub Specialist Sound
Date Posted: 13 January 2018 at 12:49pm
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True just bcus nuff sounds love scoop we arnt allways tearing up venues man, some of us bank of reflex can do real low sub and a little diff to hear sometimes which is nice agreed will said with Mr Valve its not allways bout have many glasses/windows we can break :-) sometimes forget SPL , real low sub tone ect ------------- Musical Roots Reggae Vibration is Life! for music is sound...sound is vibration...vibration is energy... and energy begets life. Therein lies my passion!...MUSIC IS LIFE... |
Posted By: jammin75
Date Posted: 13 January 2018 at 1:56pm
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reflex for 'yard' use and scoop for 'battleground' use ------------- feel the vibes !!! "Who Feels it Knows it" Strong like Lion |
Posted By: Dub Specialist Sound
Date Posted: 13 January 2018 at 3:27pm
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hahahhaa bro yes yes ------------- Musical Roots Reggae Vibration is Life! for music is sound...sound is vibration...vibration is energy... and energy begets life. Therein lies my passion!...MUSIC IS LIFE... |
Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 13 January 2018 at 4:27pm
You and I both know, piles of 2x18" or 2x21" Reflex sounds smooth.. But at end of night, when van is being loaded at 05:33hrs, we know which type of cabs we'd rather be moving, especially if even just 3x stairs involved!!! ------------- Global Depopulation - Alive and Killing. |
Posted By: Dub Specialist Sound
Date Posted: 13 January 2018 at 7:02pm
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hahaha True lev i hear that man  ------------- Musical Roots Reggae Vibration is Life! for music is sound...sound is vibration...vibration is energy... and energy begets life. Therein lies my passion!...MUSIC IS LIFE... |
Posted By: valve head777
Date Posted: 13 January 2018 at 8:30pm
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Get down the local boxing / athletics club and recruit muscle! Linford Christie was a box lifter for a well known big London sound back in the day. Light weight crew, heavy weight system lol ------------- Freedom of choice, choice of freedom. |
Posted By: Dub Specialist Sound
Date Posted: 13 January 2018 at 9:53pm
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hahaha Valve these pics come to mind   ------------- Musical Roots Reggae Vibration is Life! for music is sound...sound is vibration...vibration is energy... and energy begets life. Therein lies my passion!...MUSIC IS LIFE... |
Posted By: valve head777
Date Posted: 13 January 2018 at 10:19pm
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'But Beefy, your left is my right'....... ------------- Freedom of choice, choice of freedom. |
Posted By: luton_soundman
Date Posted: 14 January 2018 at 2:33am
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love moving my mini scoops around! So easy and straight forward. Although ive just bought some full scoops so will see how my broken back manages! ------------- Sound Hire/Sales new/used equipment. |
Posted By: nickyburnell
Date Posted: 14 January 2018 at 10:56am
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My back is shot. L4/L5 nothing much in between. It's all about management, my amp rack is heavy, I COULD lift it but would suffer more than a year ago. So, I use wheels, a trolley or two men. It's a small price to pay for proper kit designed to last. If I was a mobile disco bloke on my own of course I would get a lightweight amp and some Neo cabs. Not many PA/Sound Sytems one man, just lift between two people, 50kg becomes 25. ------------- It's everything, not everythink! |
Posted By: jammin75
Date Posted: 14 January 2018 at 11:21am
good old days wen men were made of different materials ------------- feel the vibes !!! "Who Feels it Knows it" Strong like Lion |
Posted By: Elliot Thompson
Date Posted: 14 January 2018 at 11:45am
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Many are making excuses for their justifications. You cannot have a box that plays very low (or heavy by those who rather use that terminology) and expect it to be lightweight unless having the box wiggle around the dance floor is your cup of tea. In order for a box to play very low it has to be very solid which equates to more weight. The roots sound systems from the 1970s – 1980’s that came across very heavy used very large (Wardrobe Type) reflex cabinets. Dub Specialist has the right idea on that true authentic roots sound. Such cabinets offer lots of fundamental bass in which horns cannot deliver due to the nature of its design. Best Regards, ------------- Elliot Thompson |
Posted By: nickyburnell
Date Posted: 14 January 2018 at 12:01pm
100% ------------- It's everything, not everythink! |
Posted By: jammin75
Date Posted: 14 January 2018 at 12:07pm
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scoop only good for mid bass then ------------- feel the vibes !!! "Who Feels it Knows it" Strong like Lion |
Posted By: Dub Specialist Sound
Date Posted: 14 January 2018 at 2:13pm
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Jammin hahahaha, how it going bro to? and the comment diff material, too true tho nuff sounman now allways moaning how stuff amp racks , boxs heavy these days :-) another pic comes to mind lol, bit of fun ppl  ------------- Musical Roots Reggae Vibration is Life! for music is sound...sound is vibration...vibration is energy... and energy begets life. Therein lies my passion!...MUSIC IS LIFE... |
Posted By: luton_soundman
Date Posted: 14 January 2018 at 3:43pm
Too right they moan, being in pain 24hrs a day aint fun! Working 14 hour days/nights in hard heavy strenuous jobs with a ruined back  then you call work, sorry cant come in today cos when i lifted that last rack/speaker my back went out again. Doesnt exactly helo your career out. So cutting bk weight of the system makes sense when it affects your health and work. ------------- Sound Hire/Sales new/used equipment. |
Posted By: valve head777
Date Posted: 14 January 2018 at 5:05pm
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im a small stocky type, never had issues with weight of cabs, but have had enough trouble lifting wih the inexperienced at the other end of the cab. Very dangerous combination. ------------- Freedom of choice, choice of freedom. |
Posted By: wiz247
Date Posted: 14 January 2018 at 5:05pm
 Dang! I'm getting spasms in my back just looking at this and getting flashbacks of the days before furnishing gear with flightcases, castors, handles and stuff. As mentioned earlier this is why you need to gather half a football team to help move your sh!t first and foremost! |
Posted By: jammin75
Date Posted: 14 January 2018 at 5:53pm
safe dub things goin fine link up soon that rack is dam heavy ------------- feel the vibes !!! "Who Feels it Knows it" Strong like Lion |
Posted By: APC321
Date Posted: 14 January 2018 at 6:27pm
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Great pic! Reminds me of when a saw a rack of six C-Audio 808's at Notting Hill carnival a few years ago. Frightens me just thinking about it. |
Posted By: nickyburnell
Date Posted: 14 January 2018 at 7:26pm
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I like the dude who has let go, nudging his straining mate, "look a camera" :) ------------- It's everything, not everythink! |
Posted By: Dub Specialist Sound
Date Posted: 14 January 2018 at 10:30pm
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------------- Musical Roots Reggae Vibration is Life! for music is sound...sound is vibration...vibration is energy... and energy begets life. Therein lies my passion!...MUSIC IS LIFE... |
Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 15 January 2018 at 5:52pm
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You can hear in this conversation, who play out a lot, and who don't !!! There's absolutely no need to walk around with a "heavy amp rack", anymore. There are Neo 18" drivers, that will flatten PD1850, "IN THE RIGHT SCOOP". If you play out 4x times a month, ain't no way in the world you're gonna carry around waldrobes with 4x 18" in them. My 2 cents... <Wink> ------------- Global Depopulation - Alive and Killing. |
Posted By: luton_soundman
Date Posted: 15 January 2018 at 6:09pm
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Lev them wardrobes back in the day had 18s with the tiniest magnets.. and no internals in the cabs just hollow lol. So was heavy at the time. But not like how ppl are going on about them now. Its not as though they had 4 1850s in and braced to the high heavens lol ------------- Sound Hire/Sales new/used equipment. |
Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 15 January 2018 at 6:27pm
Luke, you and I both know what 4x proper Scoops, with proper modern drivers, and proper pre-amp, and proper sub amp will do in a venue!! So some man need to leave the 80s in the 80s, and come into the 21st Century.. ------------- Global Depopulation - Alive and Killing. |
Posted By: JAH
Date Posted: 15 January 2018 at 6:46pm
What sound system was this? ------------- COPY AND PASTE THE LINK TO BUY REGGAE https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/jah_vaults/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562 |
Posted By: luton_soundman
Date Posted: 15 January 2018 at 6:54pm
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lol true. I took out 2 mini and 2 tops couple months back and the 30hz sub heard and felt all round the hall was off of a matrix 7k aswell.
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Posted By: Elliot Thompson
Date Posted: 15 January 2018 at 7:42pm
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You have any real time measurements to back up that 30 Hertz claim? Scoops offer exaggerated 50 Hz. Best Regards, ------------- Elliot Thompson |
Posted By: luton_soundman
Date Posted: 15 January 2018 at 8:01pm
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have put various spectrum analisers and a friend connected it to his computer but cannot remember which orogram was used. Maybe smart. Most people are used to tight chamber tight throat scoops which always give huge 50/60hz. I use large chamber large throat. Which has different characteristics of old generic designs ------------- Sound Hire/Sales new/used equipment. |
Posted By: KingGwarn
Date Posted: 15 January 2018 at 8:12pm
Prince Jammy and the King Jammy's sound!  ------------- Soundman inna Brighton town https://www.facebook.com/KingGwarnSoundSystem/" rel="nofollow - King Gwarn Sound System |
Posted By: Elliot Thompson
Date Posted: 15 January 2018 at 8:42pm
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The chamber is not the problem. It is the mouth. The mouth of a Scoop is too large to attain 30 Hertz at high sound pressure levels. The mouth needs to be large enough to deliver those upper frequencies (55 Hz to 90 Hertz where most people want that deep bass in Reggae Music) at high sound pressure levels. What you call Mini Scoops are nothing more than a Reflex Box with a very large vent for there is no compression/expansion ratio taking place that is synonymous with a horn. What many call a mini Scoop today is an old design that stems back in the 1980's. The first major company to offer such a design and promote it was Yorkville from Canada. You would also need to use a HPF at 20 Hz or no HPF to attain a significant amount of SPL at 30 Hz. I am not down playing your design for it is quite obvious you are happy with the results. I a merely telling you the truth about such a design and not filling your head with foolishness from those in Reggae business where their egos over shadows the reality. Best Regards, ------------- Elliot Thompson |
Posted By: Hemisphere
Date Posted: 15 January 2018 at 8:51pm
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What a load of ill-informed over-generalised pseudo-intellectual waffle. ------------- Phase 1: Post on Speakerplans Phase 2: ????? Phase 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zc4bGkU05o" rel="nofollow - Profit! |
Posted By: JAH
Date Posted: 15 January 2018 at 10:01pm
BIG SOUND saw the logo in the first pic so suspected was jammy sound but couldnt see him until the second picture. Anymore Pics? ------------- COPY AND PASTE THE LINK TO BUY REGGAE https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/jah_vaults/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562 |
Posted By: valve head777
Date Posted: 15 January 2018 at 10:29pm
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I so wish I was back in the day. To me a session was as much about piles of dusty odd box's as tunes played. Now you're rated on how small and expensive the stack is. No longer the 'ghetto' system. People judge a session by all kinds of criteria, not just with soundman eyes. So for me, majority of the time, sessions are half what they used to be. And don't even get me started on the smoking ban. Youth of today don't really know what we used to get up to. Vanilla culture now. ------------- Freedom of choice, choice of freedom. |
Posted By: KingGwarn
Date Posted: 15 January 2018 at 11:03pm
Seen! Only twice (big up Bristol) have I experienced smoking inside venues...luckily they were both big roots and dub nights and my pockets were filled with ishen...as someone who no longer does drugs and rarely drinks it was a real blessing being able to skin up and smoke in the dance. Man I wish that was the norm! Envious of the elders.... Let me know if you ever get the sound out round Brighton, valve....still need to hear a full stack! @JAH....couldn't find any more decent pics but a google search did lead me to this....https://timeline.com/one-photographers-amazing-firsthand-look-at-the-1980s-jamaican-dancehall-scene-fb887a8a3d5e some great photos....love the writing stylee you find on Jammy's speakers n that...  Bless up
------------- Soundman inna Brighton town https://www.facebook.com/KingGwarnSoundSystem/" rel="nofollow - King Gwarn Sound System |
Posted By: valve head777
Date Posted: 15 January 2018 at 11:55pm
Nice King 2017 saw 3/4 of my life get truly screwd over, lost my place to live, my yard for business and my community gone. But thankfully managed to sneak my Soundsystem to another location, so safe for now. Would love to run session, but right now just picking up pieces and taking stock. Maybe when the dust settles..... ------------- Freedom of choice, choice of freedom. |
Posted By: luton_soundman
Date Posted: 16 January 2018 at 12:42am
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Posted By: luton_soundman
Date Posted: 16 January 2018 at 12:50am
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Whatever u want to call the box, call it dogsh!t poop scoop but the fact remains it can and does do the business. You arent the first so called pa professional to question it and you wont be the last. Many have had their say on here and then when hearing and feeling in person the tune soon changes. Knowledge is great dont get me wrong, but you have to combine it in the field. Until you aquire this box for yourself you can only educate guess. Some is selling some now. Buy some ship them over and do your own testing ------------- Sound Hire/Sales new/used equipment. |
Posted By: valve head777
Date Posted: 16 January 2018 at 1:13am
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No problem with the scoop, got nine including four old Eminence design (wide/can't get them through the door) scoops which do have a deep bottom. ------------- Freedom of choice, choice of freedom. |
Posted By: Elliot Thompson
Date Posted: 16 January 2018 at 2:18am
As I stated in my previous post....
To eliminate the doubters all is needed is a measured frequency response graph to confirm your design can indeed offer 30 Hz that is not hovering within the -10 dB to -20 dB range processed or not. It could be a sine wave sweep, playing music, what have you. My smallest sub will achieve 25 Hz and if someone questions my claim, I can easily show a video of the measured results of the box playing music in real time producing 25 Hertz. If you are looking to sell cabinets you won't get many sales without some means of documentation confirming what you state is true. Best Regards, ------------- Elliot Thompson |
Posted By: luton_soundman
Date Posted: 16 January 2018 at 8:33am
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its not my design, i am not looking to sell any. If i were then yes i'd provide some graphs. And also a public demo day aswel as demos on request. But again, its not my design i do not build and sell them so have nothing to gain or prove. ------------- Sound Hire/Sales new/used equipment. |
Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 16 January 2018 at 4:41pm
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This is why Scoop Forum, and Any Reggae related forum should be removed from Speakerplans. If it's not the closet racists, shouting down all Scoops (Apart from the ones their mates have made), then it's the argument that mini Scoops can't do 35hz, Full Scoops can't do 40hz, even though there are people week in, week out getting these notes, because they have modern drivers, with decent amps, speaker cables. Funny how it's the people who don't go to Roots Reggae Dance/Reggae Sound checks, who are the ones who consider themselves chief experts on what Scoops, can and can't do. ------------- Global Depopulation - Alive and Killing. |
Posted By: Elliot Thompson
Date Posted: 16 January 2018 at 4:42pm
So you are the end user. Once you are happy with the results that's all that matters. Best Regards, ------------- Elliot Thompson |
Posted By: Elliot Thompson
Date Posted: 16 January 2018 at 4:51pm
Isn't it funny those that no nothing about the Dancehall Sound System Business as a whole from a global standpoint much less do not even own a machine comes across as an expert. Best Regards, ------------- Elliot Thompson |
Posted By: JonB67
Date Posted: 16 January 2018 at 5:20pm
So someone cant disagree with scoop claims without being labelled rascist now? Thats pathetic. Argue your point on merit. Edited to be less angry. :( |
Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 16 January 2018 at 5:30pm
Chill out.. Read back thru 10 years of the Scoop forum.. Then come back informed.. In a nutshell, On SP, it's the people who never go to Reggae Dances, have never owned Scoops, have never done any Scoop testing, consider themselves the utmost authorities on Scoops, and what they can do. Think it would just make life easier here, if Scoop Forum was deleted.. Even though I was the one, who requested it's creation in the 1st place. ------------- Global Depopulation - Alive and Killing. |
Posted By: Battered
Date Posted: 16 January 2018 at 5:49pm
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Well, that escalated quickly. ------------- Touching cloth at 200 mph |
Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 16 January 2018 at 6:01pm
 ------------- Global Depopulation - Alive and Killing. |
Posted By: Elliot Thompson
Date Posted: 16 January 2018 at 6:08pm
The topic does not entitle the word Scoops. The topic is entitled "BEST SPEAKER FOR HEAVY BASS REGGAEHere is a track that many feel offers Heavy Bass. One of many old measurements I made in 2012 using ARTA The song is Prohecy by Fabian. As you can see, the measured sign wave sweep response of one Double Eighteen offers a greater frequency bandwidth than the track. This means, playing such a track would not create any issues to the Double Eighteen for the track falls within it's frequency bandwidth.
The limiting factor of that measurement is the BBE DS 48 as it offers a fixed HPF at 10 Hz. Fortunately I sold that Processor years ago and resorted back to my Analogue crossover that does not offer a fixed HPF. Best Regards, ------------- Elliot Thompson |
Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 16 January 2018 at 6:19pm
If that track, was played through 2x 2x18s, and 4x 1x18 Scoops, with same Sub amp, capable of providing 2.5kwpc @ 4 ohms, many would be completely subdued, by the difference in SPL, and sub extension, between the 2x cab types. ------------- Global Depopulation - Alive and Killing. |
Posted By: Elliot Thompson
Date Posted: 16 January 2018 at 6:27pm
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It is a matter of having that frequency extension to play the fundamentals. This is why I do not use High Pass filtering on my boxes for they all can easily play in the low 20's Another old measurement (video) is this single Double Fifteen which, is the same height as the Hog Scoop playing more modern Reggae. Best Regards, ------------- Elliot Thompson |
Posted By: nickyburnell
Date Posted: 16 January 2018 at 7:16pm
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Are we not forgetting one thing. Extreme EQ. Namely the pre-amp. MS18 mk1 with Vpid 1200 did sub 40. Testing was me sitting in front of it with test tones. Power handling was compromised by chamber /driver. Driver issue been addressed nowadays. Half the issue here so the specifics of reggae, pa guys not remembering such, but also reggae guys not seeing outside the scene on a PA forum. Scoops are for a specific use, a band or rock really ain't nice imho, for reggae and spl they must work otherwise why would they use them? Should the scoop bit be on SP Lev? Well as it's a diy forum (lol) hell yeah. ------------- It's everything, not everythink! |
Posted By: bob4
Date Posted: 16 January 2018 at 8:00pm
nah, the recurring issue is that if anyone suggests that miniscoops are in actual fact cleverly designed, glorified reflex boxes, Lev loses his marbles. Like in that thread by the austrian guys about miniscoops. Same drama and hissing. Some people had a civil discussion, provided empirical, hard evidence and reasonable arguments. And the OP was able to roll his own with some help from the community (that's what this forum should be about, right?). Other people on the other hand……..  I'll get my coat…. ……but of course I will be accused of knowing nothing about reggae music, being a racist etc…. |
Posted By: JonB67
Date Posted: 16 January 2018 at 8:53pm
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So putting misplaced accusations of discrimination aside, Why hasn't anyone just measured the scoops and be done with it? Surely the data would render the issue moot? |
Posted By: Meat
Date Posted: 16 January 2018 at 9:44pm
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People have, it's just that the 'S' word is normally followed by an argument. Go out, get the data. Use it. Make a good noise. Don't be discouraged if folk on t'internet give you grief about it. DIY. ------------- Don't test the champignon sound |
Posted By: valve head777
Date Posted: 16 January 2018 at 10:44pm
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Horses for courses. So Jah, if you want to follow the rest, go with scoops. To be slightly different, choose double 18 br. But first, listen for yourself because that is the only informed decision you can make for yourself. ------------- Freedom of choice, choice of freedom. |