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B&C NW100 in scoops

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Topic: B&C NW100 in scoops
Posted By: sirck50
Subject: B&C NW100 in scoops
Date Posted: 01 February 2018 at 6:51pm
Anyone ever tried these in scoops? Which design is the best for this speaker? Music will be Soca, dancehall, and EDM.

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Posted By: sn95
Date Posted: 01 February 2018 at 8:11pm
I have in a Hog scoop.


Posted By: sirck50
Date Posted: 02 February 2018 at 5:32pm
Originally posted by sn95 sn95 wrote:

I have in a Hog scoop.
Thanks for the response! I have a couple of questions regarding the nw100 in the hog scoops:
1) How many do you use at a time? Coupled together or singles?
2) What type of music do they sound best with, other than reggae?
3) Do you use them in groups outdoors?
4) In terms of speaker control and bass 'tightness' how would you compare their performance to the same speaker in a reflex box?
 


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Posted By: sn95
Date Posted: 02 February 2018 at 6:02pm
Keep in mind there for personal use. 1 single but have a second one almost completed. 2 Raggae trap house deep house EDM a wide variety of music. 3 outdoors . 4 i don't think that a reflex box using the 18NW100 will come close to a hog using a 18NW100 .


Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 02 February 2018 at 6:55pm
http://www.bcspeakers.com/en/products/lf-driver/18-0/8/18nw100" rel="nofollow - http://www.bcspeakers.com/en/products/lf-driver/18-0/8/18nw100

Comparing parameters  with proven Optimal Scoop drivers, suggests 18NW100, would sound quite warm, very loud in optimal Scoop.

However, BL of only 28, and Xmax calculated by   ((Hc - Hg)/2) +2 = 8.5mm..

This suggests don't get over excited with Bass amplifier/pre-amp, or everything will sound nice, right upto when bass section disappears.!!!

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Posted By: king david
Date Posted: 16 February 2018 at 12:32am
i've seen them die in scoops a few times , any driver will if its pushed too much for too long past its limits, for some it will be easier than others. 

before they failed i could clearly hear a lot of distortion but when run within their limits they were sounding good. never heard them in hogs yet


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Posted By: paulus
Date Posted: 19 February 2018 at 3:17pm
i tried them few times, weak !!!! fane b sounded better imho 

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Posted By: sirck50
Date Posted: 14 March 2018 at 5:43pm
Originally posted by levyte357- levyte357- wrote:

http://www.bcspeakers.com/en/products/lf-driver/18-0/8/18nw100" rel="nofollow - http://www.bcspeakers.com/en/products/lf-driver/18-0/8/18nw100

Comparing parameters  with proven Optimal Scoop drivers, suggests 18NW100, would sound quite warm, very loud in optimal Scoop.

However, BL of only 28, and Xmax calculated by   ((Hc - Hg)/2) +2 = 8.5mm..

This suggests don't get over excited with Bass amplifier/pre-amp, or everything will sound nice, right upto when bass section disappears.!!!

LOL

Oh dearConfused
 
I am in possession of 8 of these subs, and compact-ability in mind, I was thinking the stipe mini Mk3 version miniscoop. Do you think the sonic difference with these speakers in the stipe mk3, or the same speakers in the Mogale, will be that different?


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Posted By: sirck50
Date Posted: 14 March 2018 at 5:46pm
Originally posted by king david king david wrote:

i've seen them die in scoops a few times , any driver will if its pushed too much for too long past its limits, for some it will be easier than others. 

before they failed i could clearly hear a lot of distortion but when run within their limits they were sounding good. never heard them in hogs yet
With all these negative ideas about these speakers in scoops, I am seriously reconsidering my choice to purchase the lot Ouch!! Thing is I got a good deal on the 8 used. Now I am considering reselling them.Ouch


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Posted By: sirck50
Date Posted: 28 March 2018 at 3:15pm
Guys if you are familiar with the Yorkville LS801P, coincidentally I purchased two. For single 18" subs they ROCK!!!! But there's where it gets good, I decide to look inside them.........
What do I find inside? AN 18" speaker that looks EXACTLY like the B&C NW100!!!!!
 
Now I'm thinking to just build a couple more so that I can use the B&C NW100, instead of looking elsewhere. The box is very simple inside. What you guys think? Have any of you compared the quality of the Yorkville to any enclosure of similar size?


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Posted By: smitske96
Date Posted: 28 March 2018 at 3:31pm
The LS801P looks more like a MTL46, than a full scoop. So very different cabs, also looking at the frequency response, the LS801 design looks more suited for the 18NW100.


Posted By: sirck50
Date Posted: 28 March 2018 at 6:09pm
Originally posted by smitske96 smitske96 wrote:

The LS801P looks more like a MTL46, than a full scoop. So very different cabs, also looking at the frequency response, the LS801 design looks more suited for the 18NW100.
I measured the internals of the LS801, and it is very different from the MTL46. Its actually has an expanding port, and is wider and shallower than the MTL46.
 
 


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Posted By: knet94
Date Posted: 28 March 2018 at 7:52pm
Why not put one of your NW100s in the Yorkville and do an A/B comparison. This will put your mind at ease before building 2 more. If the performance is comparable then go for it. If it doesn't perform as well you'll have saved a lot of time and money.


Posted By: sirck50
Date Posted: 28 March 2018 at 8:04pm
Yup, I actually did that. The B&C speaker fits exactly in the hole as the Yorkville speaker. I think I read somewhere that B&C makes some Yorkville speakers so that Yorkville speaker and the B&C speaker could be the very same thing. Cause you know what? They sound exactly the same way in the box!
 
Anyway I will take measurements and build two more if and when I come to a solid decision, but I was wondering if I can get more from the NW100 speakers in another comparable enclosure, if that's possible. Hence my persistent inquisition.


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Posted By: king david
Date Posted: 28 March 2018 at 8:18pm
I think the b&c "new" plans were all designed by someone At York ville. I mean the plans for 18nw,18sw and so on,not the old sub18 thing

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Posted By: smitske96
Date Posted: 28 March 2018 at 11:43pm
I din't say the LS801 is like a MTL46, but it looks like a MTL46. There is not much magic in that expanding port.


Posted By: sirck50
Date Posted: 06 April 2018 at 2:34pm
The Yorks sound like magic though........I honestly find that for the simplicity of build and size, they make BIG sound.

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Posted By: Aymara
Date Posted: 22 October 2022 at 5:53pm
I heard the NW100's sound really good in paraflex, especially in the O type. I'll give you also a link for plans! They say the paraflex gets the most out of your drivers, more then scoops.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/bassaz/posts/5102095523138867" rel="nofollow - https://www.facebook.com/groups/bassaz/posts/5102095523138867



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