JAMAICAN COOKIE CUTTER SOUNDSYSTEMS
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Topic: JAMAICAN COOKIE CUTTER SOUNDSYSTEMS
Posted By: RealitySound
Subject: JAMAICAN COOKIE CUTTER SOUNDSYSTEMS
Date Posted: 28 March 2018 at 1:16am
Joined a couple groups on FB. I can't believe how 9 out of 10 yard sounds have exactly the same setup. Selenium type mid tops with a line of bullets in them, stacked on top either 'canadian' type double 18 minis or double ev T18 style cabs. I come across the odd scoop here or there and the occasional folded horn. https://ibb.co/eito27" rel="nofollow - https://ibb.co/eito27
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Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 28 March 2018 at 1:24am
------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 28 March 2018 at 1:27am
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Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 28 March 2018 at 1:31am
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Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 28 March 2018 at 1:37am
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Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 28 March 2018 at 1:46am
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Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 28 March 2018 at 1:49am
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Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 28 March 2018 at 1:54am
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When did scoops go out of fashion? Not a BPH or folded horn to be seen...... I don't get it. ------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 28 March 2018 at 1:57am
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Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 28 March 2018 at 1:58am
Found a couple scoop stacks, not sure if they were from yard though.....  ------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
Posted By: bitSmasher
Date Posted: 28 March 2018 at 7:23am
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Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery... ------------- https://www.instagram.com/batteryacidsoundsystem/ |
Posted By: odc04r
Date Posted: 28 March 2018 at 9:23am
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Followers of fashion indeed. |
Posted By: taurusty
Date Posted: 28 March 2018 at 12:24pm
| Welcome to Sound Police, Reality! Glad the T 18's are finally waning in popularity... |
Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 28 March 2018 at 1:34pm
Big up Taurusty. When did the mini double's become the sub of choice? Was it Stone Love with the 'Canadians'?  ------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
taurusty wrote:Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 28 March 2018 at 1:52pm
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I see Bass Odyssey got some from Zann. Jaro got some JBL Vertex line array tops too... Pics up somewhere. I'll put em up when I find em ------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
Posted By: taurusty
Date Posted: 28 March 2018 at 1:53pm
| Yep. All of the current boxes are variations on Canadian/ Mini Scoop. Definitely an improvement over the T 18. |
Posted By: RiddimKid
Date Posted: 28 March 2018 at 2:07pm
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Stonelove Template sound systems. Anything Stonelove do the rest follow
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Posted By: JBK
Date Posted: 28 March 2018 at 2:24pm
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I always wondered where does the trend of putting mediums above the HF range, and / or compression drivers above tweeters come from? Usually in the rest of the world the point source are stacked from low to high frequency, bottom to top I guess this is due to better copling of the drivers if they're close to one another. |
Posted By: DMorison
Date Posted: 28 March 2018 at 2:29pm
If they expect the audience to be very close to the stacks then HF at the very top could go over people's heads. Moving the HF down to the middle of the cab solves that. Just one particular set of compromises they've chosen.
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Posted By: JBK
Date Posted: 28 March 2018 at 2:39pm
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Thanks for the answer, are you sure they do it specifically for this purpose or is it your guess at it? Not only the jamaican sound systems have the audience close to the stacks, we often do too. In events I go in, when played at loud/war level usually you can still clearly hear the HF even if they're up your head and not tilted. I really wouldn't want those compression drivers and tweeters straight in my ears  |
Posted By: RiddimKid
Date Posted: 28 March 2018 at 3:46pm
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My uncle once told me that the sound systems do it to keep noise inside the venue, thats the same reason why they use the t-18 type boxes so the bass fires down to the ground. They believe if the horn and tweeters are in the middle the sound will not travel as far and there will be less police shut downs and complaints. However these days most events have permits and only run till 2am so sounds are going back to the normal way of straight double 18 boxes and horn/tweeters high in the air
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Posted By: KingGwarn
Date Posted: 28 March 2018 at 5:25pm
From what I see in Sound Police, no one is rating that line array either! Pon left... 
I wonder if it works like the Peter Morris 60 on a bigger scale/for bigger distances....where it sounds more like a single point source with the HF in middle....maybe they don't overlap frequencies in JA! ------------- Soundman inna Brighton town https://www.facebook.com/KingGwarnSoundSystem/" rel="nofollow - King Gwarn Sound System |
Posted By: nickyburnell
Date Posted: 28 March 2018 at 6:44pm
In no way do those T18 keep anything indoors. I have tons of experience of them and if you do some looking on PSW there is a guy who does stadiums (half time singers etc) with 12 of them in USA. Having said that stacking them like they do does not work. In fact you may as well remove top row in my experience. Put the top ones upside down and in a block of four they chuck it as far as anything out there though. Nowt much below 50, unless eq is added in buckets, had some a few years ago for nostalgia and that roll down sub in modern music is just plain missing. Maybe we are all reading too much into the why, perhaps it's just fashion or hand me down advice? ------------- It's everything, not everythink! |
Posted By: knet94
Date Posted: 28 March 2018 at 8:11pm
Scoops have been out of fashion a good while now. Check out these two threads. https://forum.speakerplans.com/no-one-in-jamaica-uses-scoops-anymore_topic63638_page1.html" rel="nofollow - https://forum.speakerplans.com/no-one-in-jamaica-uses-scoops-anymore_topic63638_page1.html https://forum.speakerplans.com/scoops-in-jamaica_topic77199.html" rel="nofollow - https://forum.speakerplans.com/scoops-in-jamaica_topic77199.html Shame most of the pics don't come up anymore. I've been in Jamaica for 5 months and have not seen a single scoop. |
Posted By: Dub Specialist Sound
Date Posted: 28 March 2018 at 8:55pm
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I allways thought oo its to do with the Sound Po-lice, also the genre of music ja system play, pretty sure not looking for dirty low sub ie 40/35/ below ect maybe? ------------- Musical Roots Reggae Vibration is Life! for music is sound...sound is vibration...vibration is energy... and energy begets life. Therein lies my passion!...MUSIC IS LIFE... |
Posted By: Explicit 2
Date Posted: 28 March 2018 at 9:38pm
My brother in law told me the same thing most dances are kept outdoors scoops got them into trouble the police started confiscating sounds. ------------- 'Whether you believe you can or you can't your right' Im here to learn |
Posted By: Explicit 2
Date Posted: 28 March 2018 at 9:51pm
   My brother in laws sound in Kingston ------------- 'Whether you believe you can or you can't your right' Im here to learn |
Posted By: valve head777
Date Posted: 28 March 2018 at 9:53pm
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Love all the pic's ------------- Freedom of choice, choice of freedom. |
Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 29 March 2018 at 12:52am
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If Jaro had those jbl's a little higher would probably result in an improvement. I would have stacked 3 of their subs on their side then put the tops up..... They are definitely capable of producing great sound out of them with the right settigs ------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 29 March 2018 at 1:03am
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Posted By: knet94
Date Posted: 29 March 2018 at 7:05am
The system at Ultimate Jerk had these kind of cabs before Stone Love. Although when Taurusty and I linked up in March 2013 they didn't sound that impressive despite being really good in previous years. We weren't hearing anything much under 50hz. I thought at the time that the high pass filter may have been set too high. With hindsight, now wondering if this was a their way of minimising noise complaints. https://forum.speakerplans.com/scoops-in-jamaica_topic77199_page6.html |
Posted By: studio45
Date Posted: 29 March 2018 at 2:27pm
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Have they heard of round-over bits in JA? Most of those rigs look pretty splintery around the edges. Love the colours though. I wish I could paint my rig like that and still get hires for it :) ------------- Studio45 - Repairs & Building Commotion Soundsystem -Mobile PA |
Posted By: taurusty
Date Posted: 29 March 2018 at 2:32pm
| Morning Explicit! Can U advise the name of this sound & where it's located? |
Posted By: Explicit 2
Date Posted: 29 March 2018 at 2:39pm
Hi Taurusty the sound is called Explicit from Waterhouse Kingston 11 ------------- 'Whether you believe you can or you can't your right' Im here to learn |
Posted By: Jo bg
Date Posted: 29 March 2018 at 4:59pm
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I was very excited going at my first dancehall session in Backbush, Kingston... until i discovered there was no soundsystem but a pimped car for spl competition  i can see why everibody follows Stone Love, it sounded the best among what i heard on the Island. i had great expectations on Bass Odissey system, i've grown up on their tapes, but it was a disappointment both time i heard it, heavy as in rattling the bar 40 meters away, but boomy and no definition. P.S. i saw one 12" scoop used as bass for a little concert pa with plastic tops, and another one with wheels applied used to carry and sell fruits... |
Posted By: Elliot Thompson
Date Posted: 30 March 2018 at 11:01am
Best Regards, ------------- Elliot Thompson |
Posted By: Sypa
Date Posted: 30 March 2018 at 4:53pm
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Opening that can of worms again Elliot? |
Posted By: Hemisphere
Date Posted: 30 March 2018 at 5:50pm
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Posted By: jammin75
Date Posted: 30 March 2018 at 6:30pm
------------- feel the vibes !!! "Who Feels it Knows it" Strong like Lion |
Posted By: Elliot Thompson
Date Posted: 30 March 2018 at 7:23pm
Noise complaints have been going on since the 1980s... Anyone in this business long enough knows there comes a point in time when you will get free equipment from retired sound system owners. It is a common trait for sound systems just starting out to get free boxes, amps, processors from parked sounds. Considering the amount of Traditional Scoops that are in Jamaica from parked sound systems the only way you would not see Traditional Scoops in abundance is because they found better cabinets to do the job playing Modern Reggae Music. By modern I mean music released from 2010 onwards... Best Regards,
------------- Elliot Thompson |
Posted By: Elliot Thompson
Date Posted: 30 March 2018 at 7:26pm
If you are going to quote it, quote it properly.
Best Regards, ------------- Elliot Thompson |
Posted By: knet94
Date Posted: 30 March 2018 at 8:01pm
I personally think that it's been a complete fallacy that people in England (can't speak for elsewhere) think that there were a lot of scoops being used by Jamaican sounds. I've been coming to Jamaica since 1997 and I now spend 6 months of the year here . That year I saw Stone Love 3 times and never once saw them using scoops. In fact the only sound I saw with scoops that year was Metromedia. Stone Love was using double 18s not too dissimilar to the T18 type things that became popular, but these things were huge about 6' tall and about 2'6" wide. In a clash with Metro that year Stone Love totally buried Metro for bass. More I believe, because they had 2 drivers to every 1 of Metro's rather than the cabinets. The next year tho Metro didn't have scoops. The more I think about it, I now believe that the sounds now are deliberately playing less bass because of the noise control rather than the boxes not being able to produce the heavy bass. There are plenty of misconceptions here as we all know. The business of pointing the bass at the ground comes to mind. Elliot why do you think that Dancehall music is being produced with lower bass than previously when, if they have been having noise complaints since the 1980s, they must know that the sounds won't be able to play it to full effect even if they do have the speaker cabinets for it? |
Posted By: Elliot Thompson
Date Posted: 30 March 2018 at 9:26pm
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In the sound system business everyone learns from another. Sometimes, you need to get embarrassed to face reality. That is beauty about each sound bring their own machine. It allows you to compare the sound quality amongst your rival. Everyone copies from one another to a degree. The When you take into consideration these producers are in their teens to twenties, we cannot expect these new producers to create a bunch of one drop riddims that were popular before they were born. That would be like producers in their twenties in the 1990’s focusing solely on Ska Music.
Turning down the bass will be the reason for reducing noise
complaints however that would not dictate choosing one box over the other. Bear
in mind many sound systems today are top heavy in the sense the top cab was designed
to use 2 – 3 bass bins to one top. Most of the photos shown in this topic are
very uniform in which, will reduce the heavy bass many are accustomed to
hearing.
The majority of the music today is created in the box. Scan back 30 – 50 years ago, there were hardware synthesizers, hardware sequencers and of course musical instruments in which you needed to read music in order to play. In addition to, treated rooms, various monitors to listen all attributed to the end result of the sound. Many recording engineers have confirmed mixing solely in the box cannot offer the same sound as stand alone hardware equipment. So all that rolling kind of bass that older Reggae Music is known for is a product multiple pieces of hardware equipment patched together. We also need to consider many of these new producers in this digital age use headphones that offer a better extended frequency response than headphones designed decades ago. It easier to get caught up boosting 30 Hz than, 60 Hz on high quality studio headphones. Remember all one needs is a computer to create, record, master and, distribute their music. So laying tracks in a studio such as Penthouse not a privilege for all but only a chosen few. Best Regards,
------------- Elliot Thompson |
Posted By: knet94
Date Posted: 30 March 2018 at 9:45pm
And yet Metromedia personally told me in early 2012 that he changed to the T18 style double 18" cabinet to keep the bass more contained to cut down on noise pollution. So it obviously did affect his choice of one box over another. |
Posted By: Elliot Thompson
Date Posted: 31 March 2018 at 8:47am
The majority of Jamaican Sound System owners a very secretive on why they do what they do. They will tell you anything if they know you lack the knowledge of audio equipment. You can rest assure the embarrassment that Metromedia encountered to Stone Love in which you stated in regards to the bass, is the reason why Metromedia change their bass bins. From a technical standpoint… Two Electrovoice T 18 Clones are slightly taller than a single Traditional Scoop. Two Electro-voice T 18 Clones offers a larger mouth area (one stacked on top of the other) than a single Traditional Scoop. In addition to a larger mouth area, you will accomplish greater radiation due to the coupling affect of two drivers working together as a team. Common sense should tell anyone in this business that plays outdoors the following. If the volume is reduced, the sound travels less, if the volume is increased, the sound travels further. As you stated, the bass does not sound very strong so, it is obvious the volume is reduced on the bass to minimise noise complaints. Most punters will tolerate less bass to ensure a longer event than more bass with the Police arriving in 30 minutes telling you to lock off permanently. Jamaica's Police is very tolerant about noise complaints compared to the UK and the States. You would have to disregard their warnings to turn it down in order to get locked off. Best Regards, ------------- Elliot Thompson |
Posted By: nickyburnell
Date Posted: 31 March 2018 at 9:31am
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YES, because if you put one on top of the other with those cabs some sort of weird cancellation occurs, especially indoors. So a whole new cab to get the effect of turning it down? I'm going back upstairs ------------- It's everything, not everythink! |
Posted By: knet94
Date Posted: 31 March 2018 at 7:19pm
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Elliot you are not paying attention to the dates It was 1997 that Stone Love destroyed Metro. They changed their scoops after that, to what I don't really know. However just prior to 2012 they changed to the T18 style double. Maybe not for the reason he stated, although why he should lie I don't know, but definitely not because of the embarrassment with Stone Love 15 years earlier. Also insinuating that I have no knowledge of audio equipment and that Metro would know that is very condescending. Nicky, who really knows why they make their choices? We can only make assumptions. But when you hear it from "the horse's mouth" so to speak, I think you should give it some credence rather than believing they are lying. Just to clarify, when I said that the sounds were playing less bass I didn't mean they turned the bass down, I meant they were setting the hpf filter higher. |
Posted By: Elliot Thompson
Date Posted: 31 March 2018 at 10:37pm
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Here are the reasons why he changed;
Based on your statements Metromedia got embarrassed and moved towards other bass bins. Had they not been embarrassed by Stone Love, Metromedia would have not changed their bass bins.
I do not recall stating you had no knowledge in audio. I will be direct for it appears there is some confusion going on. Unless you are a bonifide brethren of the owner of Metromedia, you cannot assume he is going to tell you the exact reason why he moved from one design to another. No Jamaican Sound System Owner will share such knowledge freely. The Jamaican Sound System industry is based on staying ahead of your competition. And if you are not a part of their sound, you are the competition. Best Regards, ------------- Elliot Thompson |
Posted By: knet94
Date Posted: 31 March 2018 at 11:01pm
Still not paying attention. They changed their boxes in 1998 because of the Stone Love embarrassment. They changed again sometime before 2012. Up to 14 years later. Nothing to do with Stone Love embarrassment. And yes I am pretty friendly with Metromedia's owner (he and my cousin were best friends) and he certainly knows I am not in any competition with him especially as I live in England not JA. "They will tell you anything if they know you lack
the knowledge of audio equipment. " How would take this statement from your post if someone said this to you? |
Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 31 March 2018 at 11:37pm
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Not taking sides here but if they got shown up again by yet another sound (14yrs later) then yes they would change their bass section again... or they saw another sound and thought HEY I like their bass, I'm going that way! ------------- If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down. |
Posted By: knet94
Date Posted: 31 March 2018 at 11:43pm
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Get what you're saying Mini but why insist it's fact when it's only an opinion? And why shouldn't I take a man at his word rather than believing he's a liar. More than one person has told me that they changed boxes to shorten the throw of the bass. And yes I do believe it to be a misconception, not that they are deliberately lying. |
Posted By: Elliot Thompson
Date Posted: 01 April 2018 at 12:14am
Because the keyword is if? I am not trying to convince you, I am just telling you how the business works. Best Regards, ------------- Elliot Thompson |
Posted By: Elliot Thompson
Date Posted: 01 April 2018 at 12:22am
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That is what I am trying explain here.
Best Regards, ------------- Elliot Thompson |
Posted By: Hemisphere
Date Posted: 01 April 2018 at 8:50am
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Look let's settle this: It wouldn't matter if the operator of Metromedia turned up here and told you first hand in depth the reasons for changing bins, Elliot would calll him a liar, and it wouldn't matter if you were his brother or his son and he was dying and told you the reason on his death bed, he would have just been trying to save face and secure his legacy. The only place you could possibly hope to find the truth about this would be behind several locked doors with secret handshakes and laser alarm trips etc. Elliot Thompson has been there, but you never will. Elliot Thompson is always right. Sometimes you just have to accept that. ------------- Phase 1: Post on Speakerplans Phase 2: ????? Phase 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zc4bGkU05o" rel="nofollow - Profit! |
Posted By: KingGwarn
Date Posted: 01 April 2018 at 9:52am
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.....and people wonder why most people here just shadow the forums and don't get involved....this isn't even about scoops it's just about why the change over from scoops and it's led to this ------------- Soundman inna Brighton town https://www.facebook.com/KingGwarnSoundSystem/" rel="nofollow - King Gwarn Sound System |
Posted By: Elliot Thompson
Date Posted: 01 April 2018 at 1:17pm
You see it! Getting overly emotional of the most ludicrous things. Best Regards, ------------- Elliot Thompson |
Posted By: Hemisphere
Date Posted: 01 April 2018 at 5:50pm
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Yes fancy getting worked up over something trivial on the Internet! ------------- Phase 1: Post on Speakerplans Phase 2: ????? Phase 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zc4bGkU05o" rel="nofollow - Profit! |
Posted By: valve head777
Date Posted: 01 April 2018 at 6:47pm
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I'm not saying a word...... ------------- Freedom of choice, choice of freedom. |
Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 01 April 2018 at 7:53pm
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Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 01 April 2018 at 7:55pm
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Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 01 April 2018 at 7:57pm
I found some folded horns....   ------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 01 April 2018 at 8:04pm
METROMEDIA (according to google anyway.....)  ------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 01 April 2018 at 8:19pm
jaro on left ------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 01 April 2018 at 8:24pm
        ------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 01 April 2018 at 8:30pm
  ------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
Posted By: Hemisphere
Date Posted: 01 April 2018 at 9:19pm
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Has anyone told any of these systems about comb filtering? ------------- Phase 1: Post on Speakerplans Phase 2: ????? Phase 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zc4bGkU05o" rel="nofollow - Profit! |
Posted By: knet94
Date Posted: 01 April 2018 at 10:26pm
Lol! |
Posted By: knet94
Date Posted: 01 April 2018 at 10:56pm
The other thing that get's me is that most of the mid/tops boxes are built trapezoidal but virtually every sound system stacks them as is the are straight sided. |
Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 02 April 2018 at 1:36am
Comb filtering doesn't apply to dancehall....  ------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 02 April 2018 at 1:43am
The theme seems to be to run 3 columns 150 ft from your decks over one snake, probably 2ohm load on everything I would imagine. What's the power loss over 150 ft? ------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
Posted By: Dub Specialist Sound
Date Posted: 02 April 2018 at 2:29am
 ------------- Musical Roots Reggae Vibration is Life! for music is sound...sound is vibration...vibration is energy... and energy begets life. Therein lies my passion!...MUSIC IS LIFE... |
Posted By: Jo bg
Date Posted: 06 April 2018 at 5:08pm
... since they threw the comb away |
Posted By: KingGwarn
Date Posted: 06 April 2018 at 6:03pm
 ------------- Soundman inna Brighton town https://www.facebook.com/KingGwarnSoundSystem/" rel="nofollow - King Gwarn Sound System |
Posted By: valve head777
Date Posted: 06 April 2018 at 7:39pm
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I ain't feeling your humor this time. ------------- Freedom of choice, choice of freedom. |
Posted By: Hemisphere
Date Posted: 06 April 2018 at 7:48pm
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That's such a useful chart! Thanks for that. I wonder how many serious 12v systems full of various energy performance tweaks are losing 2-5% efficiency without realising it from lacklustre cabling. ------------- Phase 1: Post on Speakerplans Phase 2: ????? Phase 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zc4bGkU05o" rel="nofollow - Profit! |
Posted By: Jo bg
Date Posted: 06 April 2018 at 9:38pm
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QUOTE=valve head777]I ain't feeling your humor this time. [/QUOTE] |
Posted By: valve head777
Date Posted: 06 April 2018 at 11:03pm
Yeah could feel something like that ccoming my way ------------- Freedom of choice, choice of freedom. |
Posted By: I-shen Soundboy
Date Posted: 07 April 2018 at 12:01am
My Dad's shocked comment on the 140A cables and 100A breaker for a bicycle system: "Are you trying to build an electric chair?" Yeah, the DC cables can get pretty chunky...
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Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 07 April 2018 at 12:57am
Perhaps you should? The ultimate red light limiter |
Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 07 April 2018 at 2:03am
------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
Posted By: JonB67
Date Posted: 07 April 2018 at 8:37am
| Seems the cool look is to have a square block? Or is it just that 2:1 is the perfect ratio subs to tops? |
Posted By: Hemisphere
Date Posted: 07 April 2018 at 9:46am
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Posted By: Bad Man Moriarty
Date Posted: 09 April 2018 at 7:25pm
Not feeling your humour on that one either |
Posted By: cravings
Date Posted: 09 April 2018 at 9:58pm
| maybe it was a joke about dreadlocks? |
Posted By: Jo bg
Date Posted: 10 April 2018 at 9:40am
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it was a joke about many reggae sounds ignoring the bad effect of comb filtering and Twinkle Brothers tune "since I throw the comb away" , I posted a cut some posts ago on this thread. Respect to dreadlocks and baldheads same way, just an innocent musical quote from a reggae lover
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Posted By: Bad Man Moriarty
Date Posted: 10 April 2018 at 9:52am
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I just ment It wasn't funny |
Posted By: Jo bg
Date Posted: 10 April 2018 at 10:12am
| Sorry for that, at least somebody else had a laugh. I just wanted to make it clear where it came from, and that it was not dreadlocks bashing. Humor on the net is difficult... |
Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 10 April 2018 at 10:48pm
   ------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
Posted By: ape3435
Date Posted: 11 April 2018 at 8:13pm
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I'm currently using 12 x hogs and also 6 x folded horns; I also use kicks, mids and hi-mids with bullets and compression drivers; my system looks nothing like the pics shown, even my racks and flightcase looks totally different from any other that you've seen; these are all in Jamaica by the way. Would try to upload a wall of 12 x hogs and racks but completely forgot how to load images on here.
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Posted By: knet94
Date Posted: 11 April 2018 at 8:24pm
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Hi ape, mi in JA fi anodda 3 weeks. Any chance ur guys ah play out in dis time? |
Posted By: ape3435
Date Posted: 11 April 2018 at 9:12pm
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Nah, in the midst of changing management and sorting some other things so not until summer as already have a few dates for then; back one week now myself but shut it down before I came back to the UK. Wish you could have seen and heard it Knet, 2 x PCM20 and one Crest pro 9200 on bass, nice soundin g and clean. I'm on my mobile phone but will load pics when on laptop. My system is in Ewarton so not too far from you I don't think.
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Posted By: knet94
Date Posted: 11 April 2018 at 9:26pm
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Shame. I'll be back here in November. So when ur there mek sure wi link up. Ewarton is just up the road from where a lot of mi cousins live. I've not heard the PCM20 but was a bit disappointed with the PCM18 on sub duty. It was pretty amazing on kick tho. |
Posted By: ape3435
Date Posted: 11 April 2018 at 9:39pm
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I should be back in Dec so it depends when in Nov you're there and when I get there in Dec; St. Cath. north have state of emergency so everything gets shut down by 9/10pm so my area is quiet at the moment. The PCM20 is ok on bass but don't sound as rugged as other amps, I have 2 x 6k toroidals and they sound more rugged than the 20s but no way as clean; the Crest pro 9200 on 6 x scoops surprised me though.
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Posted By: knet94
Date Posted: 11 April 2018 at 10:09pm
| Sorry, should have been clearer. I'm gonna here from November to April. |
Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 12 April 2018 at 12:46am
imgur is the easiest to me. Click on green 'new post' button top left  then click on browse to find your pic  once u got it up click on the tab on the top right corner 'get share links'  then copy the BBCode (forums) button and paste that on here  ------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 12 April 2018 at 12:49am
That's wicked. You get to take it out much? ------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
Posted By: ape3435
Date Posted: 13 April 2018 at 11:03am
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Hey Reality, I did reply but on my mobile so not sure what happened. I'm shifting management at the moment so not out as much, I actually shut it down a few months ago but sorting it for the summer as have a few dates lined up. Trouble is, St.Cath. north is on a "state of emergency" so everywhere shuts by 9pm. I'll try to upload with your instructions once I've uploaded the pics to a laptop from my mobile.
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Posted By: KingGwarn
Date Posted: 15 April 2018 at 9:14am
Stacked my hogs like so yesterday and couldn't believe how quiet it was behind/to side of scoops but how heavy it was in front of them....can definitely understand why JA sounds stack minis this way if it is due to noise restrictions! Just stick the bass cabs in people's faces... ------------- Soundman inna Brighton town https://www.facebook.com/KingGwarnSoundSystem/" rel="nofollow - King Gwarn Sound System |
Posted By: studio45
Date Posted: 15 April 2018 at 5:53pm
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When considering apparent effects like that, remember that a 60Hz soundwave is physically about 5.7 metres long in the air, so you should be listening from further away to be able to really judge where the sound is going. Even 100Hz is 3.4 metres. What you will find is that the bass is actually omnidirectional in the horizontal plane, from a single point, tall vertical stack like that, at any reasonable distance. You have to make a very wide array of bins (more than 1 wavelength wide at the lowest frequency you want to produce) to get the bass to form a "power alley" where more energy is directed forwards and back, and less to the sides. Even then, that's a dipole, so you are still throwing half the bass backwards where it's not necessarily wanted. Hence all the developments in cardioid bass systems, that use additional bins to absorb the unwanted rear waves. I haven't seen any evidence of JA systems doing that yet..... ------------- Studio45 - Repairs & Building Commotion Soundsystem -Mobile PA |
Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 17 September 2019 at 11:46pm
 CHECK THE AST SCOOPS (TON OF THOSE HERE)  AT LEAST ITS DIFFERENT    ------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |