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Anyone know anything about Ramsa?

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Topic: Anyone know anything about Ramsa?
Posted By: TMH Music
Subject: Anyone know anything about Ramsa?
Date Posted: 06 February 2019 at 6:41pm
So I’ve recently acquired a little speaker system, made by Ramsa, which, I’m told, was owned by Panasonic. It’s a pair of 12”+horn WS- A200e reflex tops and 12” WS-A240 reflex bass bins. Also with the setup was a WS-SP2A subwoofer controller, which is racked with a Proel HPD-2000. I got the system, from a good friend of mine, who plays solo keyboard in restaurants and the like, he’s upgraded to Yamaha DXR & since he owed me a bit of a favour, he let me have this lot for £150. I think I’ve got a bit of a bargain!! Anybody know anything about these? From what my mate tells me, they were Panasonic’s rival to the Bose 802. Right!! let the sarkey comments commence!!!!

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Posted By: haymere
Date Posted: 06 February 2019 at 7:21pm
In context it’s a perfectly good system & sounds nice for light use. As with all plastic fantastic boxes just don’t push it hard


Posted By: jbl_man
Date Posted: 06 February 2019 at 7:50pm
They also made a couple of budget no-frills amps,WP9110 etc.

The little speaker cabs sounded ok to my ears, quite a few pubs had Ramsa installed in them by Tobysound in the late 80's ,as they were the cheaper alternative to Bose. The little 12” WS-A240 reflex bass bins will produce a fair volume if positioned right.


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Posted By: csg
Date Posted: 06 February 2019 at 11:05pm
nice little system, very sweet sounding, but be careful with the power.

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Posted By: TMH Music
Date Posted: 06 February 2019 at 11:36pm
I Thanks for the replies folks. @CSG, when you say be careful with the power, what would you recommend in terms of power for these? Tops are labelled 250w continuous programme, bass labelled 400w. The 4 channel Proel that I got with them does 270w into each speaker. Whilst that might be ok for the tops, I feel it’s under driving the bins a lot. Was thinking in terms of 300 to tops, 600 to bass. Thoughts?

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Posted By: colint
Date Posted: 07 February 2019 at 5:40am
Originally posted by TMH Music TMH Music wrote:

I Thanks for the replies folks. @CSG, when you say be careful with the power, what would you recommend in terms of power for these? Tops are labelled 250w continuous programme, bass labelled 400w. The 4 channel Proel that I got with them does 270w into each speaker. Whilst that might be ok for the tops, I feel it’s under driving the bins a lot. Was thinking in terms of 300 to tops, 600 to bass. Thoughts?

yet two out of three the reply's above tell you to be careful of the power? 
the reason they say this is because the Ramsa speakers have a real habit of self destruction when pushed so probably best to stick to the amp that came with them, also remember part's for these now quite old speaker's are pretty limited.


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Posted By: spongebob
Date Posted: 07 February 2019 at 8:53am
600W to a single 12"


Posted By: TMH Music
Date Posted: 07 February 2019 at 10:32am
@colint, fair point. It just seemed that a 270w amp, particularly when it’s measured at 1Khz, struck me as being a bit underpowered, for a bass speaker rated at 400w doing 40-100 Hz, especially as, having just found a spec sheet for it, these bins have a quoted sensitivity of 91dB!! Think this is intended as a background music system!!!!

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Posted By: jacethebase
Date Posted: 07 February 2019 at 10:52am
I have 10 of the 200's I bought them for a New Year's Eve event to use as DJ monitors. 

Had a couple of people actually comment saying how the we're impressed with them. Which is nice as they actually cost penny's.

I was driving them With P3000RL's which you may say is slight ott. 


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Posted By: colint
Date Posted: 07 February 2019 at 10:59am
Originally posted by TMH Music TMH Music wrote:

@colint, fair point. It just seemed that a 270w amp, particularly when it’s measured at 1Khz, struck me as being a bit underpowered, for a bass speaker rated at 400w doing 40-100 Hz, especially as, having just found a spec sheet for it, these bins have a quoted sensitivity of 91dB!! Think this is intended as a background music system!!!!
Foreground music it what most that i saw were used for, you also have to take into acvount the age of the drivers i wouldn't be hammering a driver that old to much to be honest.


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Posted By: jbl_man
Date Posted: 07 February 2019 at 1:01pm
Originally posted by TMH Music TMH Music wrote:

@colint, fair point. It just seemed that a 270w amp, particularly when it’s measured at 1Khz, struck me as being a bit underpowered, for a bass speaker rated at 400w doing 40-100 Hz, especially as, having just found a spec sheet for it, these bins have a quoted sensitivity of 91dB!! Think this is intended as a background music system!!!!


As i said above, quite a few were installed in pubs around here in the late 80's, yes,just general background pub music from a jukebox etc. These are not a concert system!


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Posted By: jacethebase
Date Posted: 07 February 2019 at 2:03pm
Just done a quick google and mine are the AT200



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Posted By: 100 Volt-line
Date Posted: 08 February 2019 at 12:11pm
Not bad speakers for their age. I also had the Ramsa 15 inch bins (cant remember model no) and ran them in parallel at 4 ohms with no crossover from a 480W@4 amp. It was not a bad system in its day.
One day I acquired the Ramsa subwoofer processor, but never really got on with it, so it went on the bay.
I suppose they are comparable to an RCF Art 300, but not as powerful.



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