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Topic: Wireless uplighters
Posted By: djgorey
Subject: Wireless uplighters
Date Posted: 13 May 2019 at 2:27pm
Hiya

Me again.

I'm looking for some wireless dmx, battery LED uplighters and am hoping you can give me some suggestions. I was looking at Chauvet Tri-6 units, because I have Chauvet scanners and I know of the brand, but I really don't know what I'm looking at when looking at these units other than looking at the rating and number of LEDs.

I'm looking to use them indoors, for wall up-lighting. Static during dinner and then chasing, strobing etc as an extension of my "disco" lights for the dancing bit.

I'm a bit lost as I don't know what are good brands or how to read the specs (which I take with a pinch of salt anyway). Thomann has a Stairville tour pack which looks quite good - certainly, the heads appear more powerful than the Chauvet, but any pointers on what to look for would be greatly appreciated.


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Posted By: re-production
Date Posted: 13 May 2019 at 2:59pm
The prolight uplighters are very popular for good reason.


Posted By: djgorey
Date Posted: 13 May 2019 at 3:11pm
By prolight, do you mean the LEDJ/Equinox ones? I’m looking at dome LEDJ ones that seem to do the job better than chauvet

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Gaffa tape is like the force in Star Wars - there's a dark side and a light side and it holds the universe together


Posted By: re-production
Date Posted: 13 May 2019 at 5:14pm
https://www.ac-et.com/product/prolights-smartbat-led-wireless-battery-uplighter/" rel="nofollow - https://www.ac-et.com/product/prolights-smartbat-led-wireless-battery-uplighter/




Posted By: djgorey
Date Posted: 13 May 2019 at 7:07pm
Originally posted by re-production re-production wrote:

https://www.ac-et.com/product/prolights-smartbat-led-wireless-battery-uplighter/" rel="nofollow - https://www.ac-et.com/product/prolights-smartbat-led-wireless-battery-uplighter/



SmileSmile


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Posted By: djgorey
Date Posted: 13 May 2019 at 7:43pm
Looking at the differences in specs, the cost of it being wireless is quite a bit. 

I can get 8 heads, the cables and flight cases for half the price of the wireless ones and the wired ones are brighter. 

I appreciate that I will spend more time setting up, running cables etc and there is a price on that, but the other benefit of wired is not having to worry about using wireless transmission signals!


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Gaffa tape is like the force in Star Wars - there's a dark side and a light side and it holds the universe together


Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 13 May 2019 at 8:45pm
You tend to set an up lighter using the buttons on the unit and forget it, so the wireless control is just a convenience. It’s more the battery that helps, because it stops you running jacket or hanging cable in places not suited for it. Less structure, fewer hours of labour.

More cash up front but far neater jobs at less cost ongoing. It pays off. Until someone nicks one


Posted By: djgorey
Date Posted: 13 May 2019 at 9:01pm
Yeah, I’m planning on putting some chases through them to compliment my scanners so I want control over them. 

TBH, I’m just not sure what to do. It all started when I saw some chauvet freedom sticks (battery LED battens battons battens) and thought they’d be cool, then I thought they wouldn’t be bright enough (lots of weddings we do are in rooms where it’s just dimmed rather than pitch dark). That’s when I thought of some led pars and my head has been spinning ever since. Even though about a pair of the new Martin wizard, calmed down and dimmed to do a glitter ball effect for weddings and a full-on nuts effect for other parties

The biggest problem is that I don’t have a local store where I can go and spend the day looking at my options


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Gaffa tape is like the force in Star Wars - there's a dark side and a light side and it holds the universe together


Posted By: JonB67
Date Posted: 14 May 2019 at 10:53pm
Im using cheap adl mega tripar profile plus with a  chinese wireless dmx pcb. 

Total cost £60 each. Still got to plug it in to the wall but placement is much easier if you don't have to run dmx cables to everything.  

Id have preferred battery and oem built in wireless but with 20 odd of the fixtures the budget didn't stretch that far.  

I use my fixtures much as you describe.  


Posted By: Digbethdave
Date Posted: 14 May 2019 at 11:24pm
Get the battery up lights, but don't worry too much about 'programming them' 90% of people won't notice. Just bear in mind an 8 pack in a charge case is heavy 


Posted By: djgorey
Date Posted: 14 May 2019 at 11:44pm
When looking at LED pars, to compare brightnesses is it as simple as looking at the total power of the LED’s being used? For instance. Will a par with 7 x 5w LED’s be the same as one with 1 x 35w LED, assuming the same lens, beam angle, coverage angle)

(In praise of the specs I’ve been reading, at least they all use standardised metrics. Bike lights are a nightmare to compare)


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Gaffa tape is like the force in Star Wars - there's a dark side and a light side and it holds the universe together


Posted By: Digbethdave
Date Posted: 15 May 2019 at 12:04am
Originally posted by djgorey djgorey wrote:

When looking at LED pars, to compare brightnesses is it as simple as looking at the total power of the LED’s being used? For instance. Will a par with 7 x 5w LED’s be the same as one with 1 x 35w LED, assuming the same lens, beam angle, coverage angle)

(In praise of the specs I’ve been reading, at least they all use standardised metrics. Bike lights are a nightmare to compare)
If you do rgb it shouldn't matter. If say you want to do yellow, and it's from more than one source you'll see bits of green. Not an issue if its a par can up in the sky. But an up lighter that's close to a wall you'll see it. 


Posted By: djgorey
Date Posted: 15 May 2019 at 12:12am
Cool thanks. Smile

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Gaffa tape is like the force in Star Wars - there's a dark side and a light side and it holds the universe together


Posted By: JonB67
Date Posted: 15 May 2019 at 12:14pm
Originally posted by Digbethdave Digbethdave wrote:

Originally posted by djgorey djgorey wrote:

When looking at LED pars, to compare brightnesses is it as simple as looking at the total power of the LED’s being used? For instance. Will a par with 7 x 5w LED’s be the same as one with 1 x 35w LED, assuming the same lens, beam angle, coverage angle)

(In praise of the specs I’ve been reading, at least they all use standardised metrics. Bike lights are a nightmare to compare)
If you do rgb it shouldn't matter. If say you want to do yellow, and it's from more than one source you'll see bits of green. Not an issue if its a par can up in the sky. But an up lighter that's close to a wall you'll see it. 

Not sure that's what he meant?

I think he means 7x 5w rgb cobs vs 1x35w rgb cob (which will be much of a muchness) rather than seperate red green and blue leds, which as you say look rubbish if used close enough to anything to see the colour seperation.

Most will give the actual lumen output if you dig through the spec sheet although how accurate that is for comparison purposes is anyone's guess.

I disagree that you won't notice colour chases and changes. We stick 10 pars out in a large village hall and totally change the room colour and feel. Ability to use this to good effect totally depends on ambient light conditions. 

Djgorey if you pm me I'll send you some videos directly. 


Posted By: djgorey
Date Posted: 15 May 2019 at 1:22pm
Looking at the transceiver side - are they proprietary? i.e. Will a Chauvet transceiver work with a Prolights Smartbat? They all look to be working on the 2.4GHz band, but I understand there's different channels within that band.

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Gaffa tape is like the force in Star Wars - there's a dark side and a light side and it holds the universe together


Posted By: kedwardsleisure
Date Posted: 06 September 2019 at 10:17pm
A client of mine has a load of these. Nice & bright and will do 2 gigs in between charges. Had 2 failures, one with a dud LCD screen and the other with a failed battery pack, parts all supplied free by 7C.
He says the big issue with wireless is the kids tend to pick them up and play with them

http://7clighting.com/e_productshow/?395-Uplighting-for-Wedding-395.html" rel="nofollow - 7c lighting

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Kevin

North Staffordshire



Posted By: djgorey
Date Posted: 07 September 2019 at 8:10am
Originally posted by kedwardsleisure kedwardsleisure wrote:


He says the big issue with wireless is the kids tend to pick them up and play with them


I’ve got 8 chauvet freedom sticks and the kids are fine; it’s the adults that want to play light sabres with them that’s the problem


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Gaffa tape is like the force in Star Wars - there's a dark side and a light side and it holds the universe together


Posted By: djgorey
Date Posted: 07 September 2019 at 11:37pm
Originally posted by djgorey djgorey wrote:

Originally posted by kedwardsleisure kedwardsleisure wrote:


He says the big issue with wireless is the kids tend to pick them up and play with them


I’ve got 8 chauvet freedom sticks and the kids are fine; it’s the adults that want to play light sabres with them that’s the problem

And tonight a new one - women using them as a ... substitute Shocked


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Gaffa tape is like the force in Star Wars - there's a dark side and a light side and it holds the universe together


Posted By: kedwardsleisure
Date Posted: 15 September 2019 at 11:27pm
you must have a better class of guest. I've had reports here of children getting confused with floor-standing moving heads and trying to ride them like one of those bucking broncos.

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Kevin

North Staffordshire




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