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Topic: Robe Silverscan
Posted By: djgorey
Subject: Robe Silverscan
Date Posted: 20 May 2019 at 3:58pm
Just wondering if anybody has seen these in action yet? What are people's opinions? Any idea on prices? Ta

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Posted By: djgorey
Date Posted: 30 June 2019 at 7:19pm
Bump 😊

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Posted By: djgorey
Date Posted: 09 October 2019 at 6:53pm
Anybody?! Smile

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Posted By: James Tengo
Date Posted: 09 October 2019 at 8:11pm
Nice but.... no one specs scans. So why would a hire company invest in something no one wants?

Coloursound still have robe 575xt scans and a handful of trackspots, which have earned their keep years ago, but they only ever go out on ”stage z” at festivals - the ones that only need a couple of wagglers - on weekends when you are really scraping the back corner of the warehouse for a gig.

But buying new scans in 2019? Maybe for an instal, or a mobile DJ who loves the kit. Not a very big market...


Posted By: monkeypuzzle
Date Posted: 09 October 2019 at 8:28pm
Just did the balcony of a very swanky hotel launch with Trackspots last week. The stretch tent that covered it left little height for moving heads and there was no need for an operator... did the job in a way that nothing else could've!

It's sad that scans have fallen out of favour, in a venue where there's more wall space than middle of the room space you can create some really good dynamics with them.


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Posted By: djgorey
Date Posted: 09 October 2019 at 8:31pm
Originally posted by James Tengo James Tengo wrote:

But buying new scans in 2019? Maybe for an instal, or a mobile DJ who loves the kit. Not a very big market...

That’s me!

I totally agree with everything you said. I’m in the lucky position of buying for myself with no worries about riders or specs


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Posted By: Bams
Date Posted: 09 October 2019 at 8:36pm
I remember the goldenscan 4 and cyberlight 2.0 going down the same route. Flashlight imported HES in the Netherlands during that time and they added 24 of the cyber 2.0 or so. Went out almost never and went for a few quiz almost new in case.  Friend of me tried to sell 16 Martin 518s last year but the price people were willing to pay was less than renting them out two times. 




Posted By: djgorey
Date Posted: 09 October 2019 at 9:48pm
There’s a set of 4 Martin 918’s on eBay for £1,500 and a set of 4 miniscan HPE’s for < £300. 

I love my scanners (although punters are more impressed with my LED sticks). I was just born about 15 years too late so all the really good scanners are no longer made. That’s why I’m excited by the Robe


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Posted By: Bams
Date Posted: 10 October 2019 at 8:01am
A good scan outperformes a moving head in most smaller settings is my opinion.. one people almost forgot about is the Technobeam I.. still a great workhorse and with a 200w msd source not too power hungry..

The Robe looks great on paper. Would be my weapon of choice for a retro-rave


Posted By: djgorey
Date Posted: 10 October 2019 at 8:17am
I’m just trying to find out how much they are and where I can see one. Usual google search doesn’t seem to help much 

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Posted By: djgorey
Date Posted: 10 October 2019 at 8:21am
Just as a thought, does anybody know if I can swap around the hanging bracket on a MiniScan so it’s on the mirror side of the unit, rather than the back? My lighting poles are simply poles with a M10 socket in the top so my current scanners just bolt on and stand up right

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Posted By: IainB
Date Posted: 10 October 2019 at 9:20am
Originally posted by djgorey djgorey wrote:

a set of 4 miniscan HPE’s for < £300.

That must be the white ones, which have been for sale for getting on 2 years I think!  

Originally posted by djgorey djgorey wrote:

Just as a thought, does anybody know if I can swap around the hanging bracket on a MiniScan so it’s on the mirror side of the unit, rather than the back?

Yes - the hanging bracket is totally removable, so there isnt anything to stop you moving it back to front.

I still need to finish the LED conversion on mine, as they are power hungry little beasts. The Blue Room has an interesting thread on the conversion. The nights I run are 'retro' so having original era correct lighting is a bonus


Posted By: woody2
Date Posted: 10 October 2019 at 9:23am
Originally posted by James Tengo James Tengo wrote:

Nice but.... no one specs scans. So why would a hire company invest in something no one wants?

Coloursound still have robe 575xt scans and a handful of trackspots, which have earned their keep years ago, but they only ever go out on ”stage z” at festivals - the ones that only need a couple of wagglers - on weekends when you are really scraping the back corner of the warehouse for a gig.

But buying new scans in 2019? Maybe for an instal, or a mobile DJ who loves the kit. Not a very big market...


have a few clay paky spheriscan- made plenty of money out of them


Posted By: djgorey
Date Posted: 10 October 2019 at 11:04am
Originally posted by IainB IainB wrote:

Originally posted by djgorey djgorey wrote:

a set of 4 miniscan HPE’s for < £300.

That must be the white ones, which have been for sale for getting on 2 years I think!  


Indeed they are. I keep on looking and they will ship them too me as well
Originally posted by IainB IainB wrote:

Originally posted by djgorey djgorey wrote:

Just as a thought, does anybody know if I can swap around the hanging bracket on a MiniScan so it’s on the mirror side of the unit, rather than the back?


Yes - the hanging bracket is totally removable, so there isnt anything to stop you moving it back to front.


Brill
Originally posted by IainB IainB wrote:


I still need to finish the LED conversion on mine, as they are power hungry little beasts. The Blue Room has an interesting thread on the conversion. The nights I run are 'retro' so having original era correct lighting is a bonus


I want the 300w discharge in there and, if I got some, would run decent power to them, but I am not technically minded at all so would need someone to be my "lighting guy/lady" that I could pass them to when they break. I did a gig recently where I had my Chauvet scanners up and the AV crew put in a 250w discharge Robe moving head. The Robe was brighter, but not by a massive amount, but some of the colours were significantly better on the Robe. I like scanners, I just want better ones. Whether or not the MiniScans on ebay are them, I don't know.

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Posted By: csg
Date Posted: 11 October 2019 at 9:14am
For all those people running Miniscans you can more than half the power consumption by applying power factor correction. A 35 microfarad pf capacitor placed between the L and N inlets will do this. Back in the days where i had dozens of miniscans we made up a load of suitable boxes to do this and it made powering the rigs significantly easier.

Ive got no idea why clay Paky never did this themselves, i guess it would have made the case slightly larger but only slightly.


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Posted By: djgorey
Date Posted: 11 October 2019 at 9:59am
Originally posted by csg csg wrote:

For all those people running Miniscans you can more than half the power consumption by applying power factor correction. A 35 microfarad pf capacitor placed between the L and N inlets will do this. 

I have a mate who’s an electronics engineer so he’d be able to do this. I might have to take a punt on the ones on eBay. Take it the lamps are still available?


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Posted By: IainB
Date Posted: 11 October 2019 at 10:26am
Originally posted by djgorey djgorey wrote:

Take it the lamps are still available?

Google HTI300 - prices vary between £30 and £100 


Posted By: londonavc
Date Posted: 15 October 2019 at 4:39pm
Hey
Ive seen the Silver Scan in use at Plasa, great effect but the price tag will be serious to.

According to this link could be RRP price its 5000 euros:

https://ees.es/catalogo/robe-lighting/silverscan/" rel="nofollow - https://ees.es/catalogo/robe-lighting/silverscan/


Have used many scanners, you might want to consider following:

Eurolite LED TSL 1200 (120w) £400 - £500

Martin Rush Scanner 1 (90w) £880 - £1000

Showtec Shark Scan One (100w) £325 - £400

Chauvet 305 Scans/Barrels (60w) £400


Ive used the TSL 1200 and its impressive to say the least!!!

Hope this helps.



Posted By: djgorey
Date Posted: 15 October 2019 at 5:25pm
That does indeed help a lot! Thank you 😊 

5,000€ is well out of my price range. 

I’ve got the Chauvet 305 scans at the moment so it was something better than them that I was looking for. Brighter, motorised focus and easily inter-changeable gobos essentially. Have you seen the Martin in action? The LED is 50% more powerful, but I don’t know how that relates to light on the dance floor, especially when the rest of the optics is taken into consideration. The Eurolite looks like great value too. 


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