We Out Here Festival
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Topic: We Out Here Festival
Posted By: Ionkontrol
Subject: We Out Here Festival
Date Posted: 21 August 2019 at 7:42pm
Lots of Danley apparently and sounded lovely according to my mates who were there.
Anyone on here?
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Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 21 August 2019 at 9:34pm
That would be my lot and our Glasgow pals at A-Live. 12 stages including the little ones. Over 20 separate products too including the new studio monitors and a DTS10 proper theatre sub in the Love Dancin hifi tent. Jerichos on the bigger stages including one J3-94 a side on the main stage with a single SH96HO at 60m for delay and six BC subs. 8x 18s and 8x15s on bass with 106dBA slow and plenty of sub even for Mala’s orchestra show at FOH 52m back.
Honestly we’re still blown away at the feedback from all corners. Noise police absolutely loved it, touring engineers had loads of fun, people who came just to see what the fuss is about sought us out to chat in detail about all sorts of things, and we had compliments from random punters at stages and online after. Even Gilles gave us a proper shout at before the incredible final act of The Comet Is Coming.
I saw Ford mention something about Glastonbury too in another thread before we set off. I’m just catching up on life but I’ll try and do a bit more of a post about what was on each stage and why.
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Posted By: re-production
Date Posted: 22 August 2019 at 8:56am
I was there, sounded lovely!
More than enough low end for Mala at the front, was absolutely immense, super clean controlled bass
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Posted By: bigtool
Date Posted: 22 August 2019 at 9:07am
toastyghost wrote:
That would be my lot and our Glasgow pals at A-Live. 12 stages including the little ones. Over 20 separate products too including the new studio monitors and a DTS10 proper theatre sub in the Love Dancin hifi tent. Jerichos on the bigger stages including one J3-94 a side on the main stage with a single SH96HO at 60m for delay and six BC subs. 8x 18s and 8x15s on bass with 106dBA slow and plenty of sub even for Mala’s orchestra show at FOH 52m back.
Honestly we’re still blown away at the feedback from all corners. Noise police absolutely loved it, touring engineers had loads of fun, people who came just to see what the fuss is about sought us out to chat in detail about all sorts of things, and we had compliments from random punters at stages and online after. Even Gilles gave us a proper shout at before the incredible final act of The Comet Is Coming.
I saw Ford mention something about Glastonbury too in another thread before we set off. I’m just catching up on life but I’ll try and do a bit more of a post about what was on each stage and why. |
Pics??
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Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 24 August 2019 at 3:58pm
Photos as requested... Site

Studio One monitors on DTS10 sub in the Love Dancin' tent with Klipschorns in Mancuso style:

Main stage aerial shot:

Main before doors:

Main stage subs:

Main in swing - off axis but still excellent:

Sunday night headliner, the Comet is Coming:

Rhythm Corner sub array (The Drop for SGP goers):

J7 at RC:

RC at night:

Lush Life stage (Where the Wild Things for SGP goers):

Forest stage at night (Badger Woods for SGP goers):

Forest central sub:

Forest system:
Forest rear speaker:

Woodland stage:

Bit of branding on the heras around site:

Also, here's the kit list breakdown by stage - unless another brand is mentioned, these are all Danley model numbers: Main Stage
2x J3-94 4x SH46 on front fill 1x SH95HO centre front fill 1x SH96HO delay at 60m
4x BC218 sub 2x BC415 sub
8x DNA20K Pro amplifiers
2x A&H dLive S7000 2x A&H DM64 1x Midas PRO2 1x Digico SD11 1x Outline Newton
Rhythm Corner Stage
2x J7-95 2x SH95 front fill 8x TH118XL sub 2x TH412 sub
5x Powersoft X4 3x Powersoft K20DSP
2x TH118 monitor sub 2x SM80M monitors
1x A&H dLive C1500 and DM32
Lush Life Stage
2x J7-95 8x TH118XL 2x Cube 3x DNA20K Pro
2x A&H dLive C3500 2x A&H CDM48
Forest Stage
4x SH96HO in four corner 4x DBH218 sub 1x BC415 sub
3x Powersoft X4 3x Powersoft K20DSP
2x TH118 monitor sub 2x SM80M monitors
1x A&H SQ5 with DX168.
Woodlands Stage
3x SM96 in LCR configuration 2x SM60M rear fill
2x DBH218 sub 1x BC412 sub
3x Powersoft X4 2x Powersoft K20DSP
2x THmini15 monitor sub 2x SM100B monitors
Brawnswood Stage
2x SM80 2x TH118 sub
1x DNA 20K Pro
Big Top Stage
2x SM100F 2x TH118
1x DNA 20K Pro
6x FLX12 monitors 2x DNA5K4C
Worldwide FM Stage
2x Mini180 2x TH28 sub
Near Mint Records Stage
2x SH95 2x TH118 sub
1x DNA20K Pro
Cinema
4x Nano 3x Cube 2x TH118 Sub
1x DNA10K8
Klarna Smooth Sanctuary
2x Mini180
We had winds of 44mph gusts on a few days, the J3s were literally moving, but not a single problem with loss of detail of vocals
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Posted By: Sypa
Date Posted: 24 August 2019 at 5:00pm
Noice, what can we expect on dimensions /outlook?
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Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 24 August 2019 at 5:02pm
Sypa wrote:
Noice, what can we expect on dimensions /outlook? |
Incubus at the Void, with some Nexus XL. No far field Arcline this year due to budget. That’s it from us. I think DAS or EV line array on most others.
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Posted By: Sypa
Date Posted: 24 August 2019 at 5:25pm
So not going out with a bang?  Shame, was lookin forward hearing some danley. Nvm just hope the weather will serve us right!
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Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 24 August 2019 at 7:28pm
Did the absolute most we could without it being ridiculous. We only have two crew this year, and one of us has to be stage manager as well...
Would have loved to have Danley there but no dice sadly.
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Posted By: Jacxy
Date Posted: 28 August 2019 at 7:53pm
Incredible stuff!
------------- Almost everyone is born a genius and buried an idiot.
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Posted By: MattStolton
Date Posted: 09 September 2019 at 5:50pm
@Toasty - and you get a mention in L&SI magazine!!
Saw the Danley boxes, and thought of you, then read on, and neuron get a mention!
Looks like a lot of fun!
------------- Matt Stolton - Technical Director (!!!) - http://www.wildingsound.co.uk" rel="nofollow - Wilding Sound Ltd "Sparkius metiretur vestra" - "Meter Your Mains"
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Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 09 September 2019 at 6:22pm
MattStolton wrote:
@Toasty - and you get a mention in L&SI magazine!!
Saw the Danley boxes, and thought of you, then read on, and neuron get a mention!
Looks like a lot of fun! |
Cheers pal. We collaborated with our original big buyer Mackie at A-Live to do this one, our J3s went up on main stage with Martijn from A-Live doing the overall design and setup there. I handled design and tuning on the majority of the other stages. My main buzz personally is the feedback from Chris at SPLtrack, that’s all him and he has no horse in this race except making his and his clients’ lives easier.
It was a big ask to do a full site with so many different bits of kit just a few years into having the big D in the UK but we’re all proud of the result. There’s a feature in TPi too
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Posted By: Sypa
Date Posted: 10 September 2019 at 1:47am
The Void rig was probably the best at Outlook imo , a bit shy on the tops in the back of the crowd but still great and fully enjoyable. Sinai comes second offcourse, expected the scoops to play a bit lower with greater authority but when it hits you 40hz up i think the disparity and difference in the spl makes the lower <38hz notes seem lackluster. First time i experienced my lips shaking out of control  Moat classic.
The garden tops get a honorable mention everything else 
That was my outlook review in an unrelated thread heheh
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Posted By: jazomir
Date Posted: 10 September 2019 at 12:45pm
There were quite a few vids posted on YouTube last week from various stages around the site on the Mo Better Events channel. http://youtube.com/channel/UCkcgdAfqiyAbELn4icLaE1Q/videos" rel="nofollow - youtube.com/channel/UCkcgdAfqiyAbELn4icLaE1Q/videos
------------- For sidefills, can we have two enormous things of a type that might be venerated as Gods by the inhabitants of Easter Island, capable of reaching volumes that would make Beelzebub soil his pants.
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Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 10 September 2019 at 3:25pm
jazomir wrote:
There were quite a few vids posted on YouTube last week from various stages around the site on the Mo Better Events channel. http://youtube.com/channel/UCkcgdAfqiyAbELn4icLaE1Q/videos" rel="nofollow - youtube.com/channel/UCkcgdAfqiyAbELn4icLaE1Q/videos
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Hadn’t seen these but Jesus can somebody tell that guy to stop making portrait footage
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Posted By: sarsen1
Date Posted: 17 August 2021 at 5:15pm
Old thread resurrection but @toastyghost can we expect a similar set up this weekend for We Out Here? Not had a chance to hear any Danley yet so hoping this will be the chance to do so!
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Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 19 August 2021 at 2:23am
Danley on everything apart from the tiny incidentals. Some Paraflex stuff on Lemon Lounge too.
I’ve gone a bit hog wild on a few sub arrays. Some fine tuning on one left but quite proud of the forest setup.
You’ve got a pair of J3-94 with six BC145 on main stage 😅
There’s also a pair of the unreleased Hyperion hifi towers on site. Ruler flat phase and magnitude from 15 Hz to 24 kHz with <20 ms latency…
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Posted By: sarsen1
Date Posted: 19 August 2021 at 9:17am
Great stuff, can't wait to check it all out tomorrow
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Posted By: fat_brstd
Date Posted: 19 August 2021 at 10:29am
toastyghost wrote:
Danley on everything apart from the tiny incidentals. Some Paraflex stuff on Lemon Lounge too.
I’ve gone a bit hog wild on a few sub arrays. Some fine tuning on one left but quite proud of the forest setup.
You’ve got a pair of J3-94 with six BC145 on main stage 😅
There’s also a pair of the unreleased Hyperion hifi towers on site. Ruler flat phase and magnitude from 15 Hz to 24 kHz with <20 ms latency… |
Info on Hog arrays please, any tips for us mere mortals?
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Posted By: Sinai Sound
Date Posted: 19 August 2021 at 1:07pm
"hog wild" isn't an array of hogs 
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Posted By: jazomir
Date Posted: 19 August 2021 at 1:16pm
Ah, the Mike Hedden 'DJ Monitors' with a bit of extra oomph!
------------- For sidefills, can we have two enormous things of a type that might be venerated as Gods by the inhabitants of Easter Island, capable of reaching volumes that would make Beelzebub soil his pants.
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Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 19 August 2021 at 1:50pm
jazomir wrote:
Ah, the Mike Hedden 'DJ Monitors' with a bit of extra oomph! |
Four points of asymmetrical 96HO with some SM80M as rear fill in there. The sub array is a hybrid gradient end-fire arc with a level taper window that also adjusts the limiter curves to prevent pattern collapse.
It’s all run from Powersoft X8, one box per channel.
Rhythm Corner has a variation of that, ten TH118XL in spaced array with a shift more toward end-fire. That stage has a one button transition that improves rear rejection by 15 dB at the expense of transient impact out front, just in case there are any short term noise issues. J3-94 mains and SH95 on front fill.

Woodland has a prototype BC218RH flanked by a pair of TH118XL for a digital delta array. J7-95 in there.
Main stage is J3-94 with 96HO down fill, and Genesis horn delay tower. Six BC415 with SH46 and SH95HO front fill.
Lush Life is J7-95 over six DBH218.
Love Dancin’ has a Mancuso-inspired five point Hyperion and SM60F / TH118XL system, all the hifi noodles up front you could ever want, and the option of three monitoring systems including the Danley Studio 2.

There’s various other bits on site - SM100, SM100F, SM100B, Sharc Fin, SBH10 over TH412, SM80 in a 360 degree array for a band stand…
I’ve lost count
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Posted By: jazomir
Date Posted: 19 August 2021 at 2:06pm
Those Hyperions look the biz. Do they really sound as good as they look?
------------- For sidefills, can we have two enormous things of a type that might be venerated as Gods by the inhabitants of Easter Island, capable of reaching volumes that would make Beelzebub soil his pants.
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Posted By: Sinai Sound
Date Posted: 19 August 2021 at 2:16pm
toastyghost wrote:
jazomir wrote:
Ah, the Mike Hedden 'DJ Monitors' with a bit of extra oomph! |
STUFF
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 ^ 10
That is all
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Posted By: James Tengo
Date Posted: 19 August 2021 at 5:08pm
toastyghost wrote:
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Coloursound boxes, you can't miss 'em....
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Posted By: re-production
Date Posted: 19 August 2021 at 7:06pm
How much did the nee sun arrays in the woods improve off site compared to last time? Sad to be missing it this year!
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Posted By: Tedski
Date Posted: 20 August 2021 at 10:16pm
toastyghost wrote:

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Those are some nice 'I want to keep my subs out of the mud but pallets suck" platforms! What are they?
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Posted By: James Tengo
Date Posted: 21 August 2021 at 12:16am
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 21 August 2021 at 5:50pm
Beautiful stuff
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Posted By: sarsen1
Date Posted: 25 August 2021 at 2:04pm
Highly impressed with all stages, main stage was very hifi sounding and from all areas of the crowd the sound was very detailed, much more consistent coverage than pretty much every line array I have heard.Rhythm Corner was the heaviest sounding I heard all weekend but every time I walked up to the stage I was convinced it was very quiet until I was in the crowd, so the end fire array was doing a good job of controlling spill behind the subs and I assume on stage.
I didn't hear the Woodland stage particularly cranked but again was a pleasant and clean sound.
Main take away for me was that the Danley tapped horns sound great and even the singles/pairs that were dotted around sounded great and surprisingly low/loud. And of course the coverage to size ratio of the J/SH tops.
The paraflex system in the Lemon Lounge sounded good too. 4X stacks of 2x paraflex subs, double 10 inch kicks, what looked to be ASS MT502's on top all facing inwards in a circular tent that was rarely not packed.
The only complaint was that Channel One and Irration played in a roller disco style stage and despite the maybe 6 TH118 (I think, can't quite remember the setup?) it was pretty quiet with minimal bass, but I am sure that was due to noise restrictions as it was fairly close to the mainstage. So a dusty scoop system out the way somewhere on site would have been the cherry on a what was otherwise probably the best sound I have heard at a UK festival. 
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Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 09 September 2021 at 9:53am
Thanks for the kind words, and sorry for not replying sooner! I've had this tab open somewhere in the midst of many browser windows over multiple machines, meaning to write something, but real life keeps getting in the bloody way.
The roller disco was actually listed on the pre-show brief as 'maybe needs a small PA, just some DJs'. When we got on site, and saw the size of the tent and the running order, there was a bit of a scramble to shuffle kit around and get something half decent in there. Wasn't the only one!
Considering what they pulled off at such short notice of being able to go ahead, it's understandable. Unfortunately there were several little bumps in the road like that, so I didn't get much time to roam and enjoy myself during the show.
There are some things I'd have changed in hindsight, but given the circumstances I think it was a pretty stand up job. The Lemon Lounge lot got away with murder too - even though all of Paraflex don't really go low for their size, the harmonics are so strong that they feel much heavier in tone than they really are.
The entire site's PA was packed into trucks and on the road by early afternoon Monday, with only a handful of crew. One of the best things about using Danley
jazomir wrote:
Those Hyperions look the biz. Do they really sound as good as they look? |
You tell me...

Verified on site, with <30 ms round trip latency from the FIR (from memory, don't hold me to that as it was a LONG week with LOTS of traces)
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Posted By: jazomir
Date Posted: 09 September 2021 at 10:37am
Pretty slick!
------------- For sidefills, can we have two enormous things of a type that might be venerated as Gods by the inhabitants of Easter Island, capable of reaching volumes that would make Beelzebub soil his pants.
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Posted By: k_m_g
Date Posted: 22 August 2022 at 2:32pm
What's the rigs looking like for this year? Specifically in the smalle venues like Big Top and Movement... very much looking forward to hearing this years offering.
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Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 22 August 2022 at 9:21pm
k_m_g wrote:
What's the rigs looking like for this year? Specifically in the smalle venues like Big Top and Movement... very much looking forward to hearing this years offering. |
I’m not there this time around, but I presume it’s much the same for most of the site. There might be d&b for some of the smaller stages where bits will have been sub-hired in. We’re all just too busy this season.
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Posted By: teeth
Date Posted: 23 August 2022 at 9:41pm
my girlfriend is DJing there on friday, think i might stop by with her for a quick snoop
will report back
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Posted By: k_m_g
Date Posted: 24 August 2022 at 2:46pm
toastyghost wrote:
k_m_g wrote:
What's the rigs looking like for this year? Specifically in the smalle venues like Big Top and Movement... very much looking forward to hearing this years offering. | We’re all just too busy this season. |
And long may that continue. Looking forward to seeing what we'll be DJing on this year. Was the highlight of 2021 imo...
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