V18-1200 Pre Order NOW
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Topic: V18-1200 Pre Order NOW
Posted By: Jethro PAP
Subject: V18-1200 Pre Order NOW
Date Posted: 13 June 2007 at 3:15pm
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Just had confirmation from the guys at Void and we are now taking advanced orders on these crazy drivers. Be one of the first to have one of the best 18" drivers ever made!! (I have one here, I know!!) :-) Specs here http://www.proaudioparts.co.uk/images/v18-1200.jpg - http://www.proaudioparts.co.uk/images/v18-1200.jpg http://www.proaudioparts.co.uk/pdf/v18-1200.pdf - http://www.proaudioparts.co.uk/pdf/v18-1200.pdf ------------- www.ProAudioParts.co.uk |
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Posted By: whitehousejamie
Date Posted: 13 June 2007 at 3:20pm
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Just out of interest, any idea how these would sound in place of the Viper Sub driver?
Jamie ------------- Lighting, sound & staging hire www.eventstore.co.uk www.pauljamespromotions.com |
Posted By: Rog
Date Posted: 13 June 2007 at 3:39pm
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Don't you like the Viper Sub then Jamie.
I've had 8 running at once in a row along the floor and it was getting on for unbearable. It was hard to breath and was mashing up my insides.
V18-1200 was not designed for a small reflex like the Viper Sub. Stick it in 250 litres of cab and watch ya wallpaper fall off.
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Posted By: whitehousejamie
Date Posted: 13 June 2007 at 3:43pm
Yes, they are nice as they are, but the tops are just so loud and efficient, would be nice to have just a touch more on the bass end. 
Regards,
Jamie ------------- Lighting, sound & staging hire www.eventstore.co.uk www.pauljamespromotions.com |
Posted By: Rog
Date Posted: 13 June 2007 at 3:50pm
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Ummmmm, 2 perphaps. Know what you mean, but the laws dictate that you can only get so much from a small reflex cabinet. I'm doing some half versions of the Stasys 8 with a neo driver soon. Might be able to give you a bit more ummph. |
Posted By: whitehousejamie
Date Posted: 13 June 2007 at 3:59pm
Sounds good. Have thought about another pair of the Viper subs, would make a fantastic little rig then (although it already is!), not sure how much more power I will get if run from the same amp, each driver getting around 500w rather than 700w ish. I suppose it's all about air movement, not just power. ------------- Lighting, sound & staging hire www.eventstore.co.uk www.pauljamespromotions.com |
Rog Mogale wrote:Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 15 June 2007 at 10:50am
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Hello there Jethro, how about recone kits for these beasts ? Will/Are they available too ? I remember the palava on PAP deciding on which kit to send out for repairs (A-Kits or B-Kits) for the v18-1000's depending on when you bought the driver.
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Posted By: Rog
Date Posted: 15 June 2007 at 11:06am
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There is only one version of the V18-1200, so no worrys there mate.
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Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 15 June 2007 at 11:53am
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you guy's make me laugh! ther only time we had a blown driver is because some caveman who shall remain nameless...not!! Robbie!
had his hands on the front end when we turned our back's
Rog! we wont be needing kits will we??
 hopefully they will be collecting dust on the shelf ------------- ......just all them hanging there like giant bananas. |
Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 15 June 2007 at 2:53pm
Hope so too. The amount of blown PD1850's & V18-1000's I've come across, I've often wondered!!!
The only guys I though I'd see blowing up any drivers, are the systems that play at the roots reggae dances. You ned to stand up in front of the stacks if you have no idea what I mean. You'd see the speaker being beaten up & spanked (not literally) with no mercy.
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Posted By: Gramps
Date Posted: 15 June 2007 at 3:24pm
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@Tek.. Do you reckon thats got something to do with them being in scoop bins? My V18-1000s have had a right royal spanking in the Looneys, and we do big Reggae dances along with all the DnB and Dubstep, week in week out for the last 18 months and they've never missed a single beat!
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Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 15 June 2007 at 3:36pm
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I don't know Gramps, I only ever hear looneys a few times a year but hear scoops all the time. You maybe right.
Every time I want to hear your Looneys something else comes up, that's why I'm waiting for the next big session down Brighton so I can hear if they really are getting spanked like when I hear them in Carnival.
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Posted By: Gramps
Date Posted: 15 June 2007 at 4:04pm
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Come down to Roots Garden at the Concorde on the 21st of July. Gonna have 16 in there then, unfortunately the promoters have decided they want them in 2 stacks at either end of the room, so won't be as heavy. Trying to persuade them to let us do one big wall of them so you get the coupling effect to the max, and less hot/cold spots in the room but doesn't seem to be happening at the moment... ------------- To do a dull thing with style - now that's an art. |
Posted By: Bryan M
Date Posted: 15 June 2007 at 5:47pm
| i heard the v1200 is already in a looney bin, and is spanking as we speak... |
Posted By: SmokeyJoe
Date Posted: 15 June 2007 at 11:53pm
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The driver in a regular Scoop becomes unloaded below 30Hz I believe, If a hi-pass filter is not used then the driver could recieve ultra low (<30Hz) signals from the amp, turntables. PRE AMPS etc..
Thus resulting in the driver flapping about a lot, and at high SPL's will probably lead to blown driver. Just my two cents... - Joe. |
Posted By: Rog
Date Posted: 16 June 2007 at 1:52am
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Tek, You say you have seen loads of V18-1000's that have blown. My question is where are people getting the recone kits from. Void have supplied less than 20 recone kits in the 3 years the V18-1000 has been in production. So are people using other recone kits, or just not bothering with getting them reconed?
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Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 16 June 2007 at 3:48pm
Figure of speech Rog, maybe should have wrote a few. I didn't buy any myself as the cost of the reconing kit from PAP plus fitting cost from Wembley Loudspeakers brought it up to a price of working 2nd hand ones.
You're right, they are some out there which haven't been bother to recone them.
Getting the the recone kits for the v18-1000 weren't too easy to get, which I know put of a few people buying them in the first place.
Even after the testing couple sound guys have already mentioned the availbility of kits.
When are these 1200's gonna be available ? Don't want it to be like the 1000's where you put in your order & have to wait months for them to arrive.
PAP, hope you don't rush in getting these out in the UK then they turn up in the cheap thin card-board boxes, doubled up in wooden crates like the first of the 1000's we got a few years ago. I won't go into this right now anyway.
The P.Audio packaging was much better, PD even better still.
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Posted By: biotec
Date Posted: 16 June 2007 at 6:53pm
| I've been using pd1850 carboard boxes to carry my decks around in for over 2 years and apart from a bit of gaffa tape and some bubble wrap they haven't been touched and are still rock solid! You can stack stuff ontop of them and drop them just like a proper flightcase and they still protect the turnbtables. The most overenegineered cardboard boxes I've ever seen. |
Posted By: Rog
Date Posted: 17 June 2007 at 2:47am
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The box for V18-1200 is proper Tek. Its a double box with 2 bits of wood top and bottom and won't let you down. Learn't a lot since shipping out the first drivers nearly 4 years ago.
I anticipated that your test would show the V18-1200 to perform as good as whats used now, so ordered the UK to start building lots 1 week ago. Its only worth doing a largish production run and to compleate building and testing of a lot of drivers takes us just over 4 weeks. Some of this time is speant waiting for parts, like the cones, so thats why I hedged my bets and place the cone order a week ago. So the first ones should be ready for delivery in 3 to 4 weeks time.
Lots have been made and there should be enough to go around. If it proves popular I will then start another batch so that anyone who wants some V18-1200's for carnival can get as many as they want.
I'm not into letting people down when it comes to something as important as this, so will try and keep the flow going and do an extra big run before carnival so no one will be disapointed.
Thank you for the test Tek and Lev, wish I could have been there. I would have brough a Infinite 8 V2 for you to have a play with. In fact I should have sent one up anyways, as there is stock in the UK now.
Rog.
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Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 17 June 2007 at 10:47am
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Brilliant stuff to hear.. 4 years, Is it that long ? Out of the dozen I got from PAP back then, they're still going strong. (Never blown none) It's not too late Rog to send an Inf8_v2 up, but we don't want to end up with blown drivers.
 There'll be a part 2 hopefully with more people there, & two of everything (Cabs & drivers) I think in pairs it'll be much better & easier to test. I'll have one these V18-1200's by then...some of my mates too the way I hear them talking already.
When you check it, there's not really much left to test, other than to get the TurboMax loaded correctly & give that a proper blast in the A.S.S & shortman's scoop.
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Posted By: Rog
Date Posted: 17 June 2007 at 1:48pm
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Nah, Infinite 8 V2 is one of the kindest amps on any driver. Do a test for yourself.
Load up 2 identical cabs with the same drivers and drive 1 cab from the Infinite 8 and the other from any amp that puts out the same or even a little less output. Run both cabs for 30 mins at the same level then stop the music and put your hand on the back of the magent of both drivers. Bet the driver being driven from the Infinite 8 V2 will be a lot colder. And colder runing drivers mean they will play louder due to less power compression and last longer and they are not so stressed. The amp can not be clipped what ever you do, so that will save a driver where an amp that clipps will not. There are also other circuits that monitor the driver and can put the brakes on if the driver is unhappy.
Basically its an amp for anyone who does not know or does not care how they run there system. Just put it in a rack and it will do the rest. You can chuck whatever level of input signal you want and it will just sit there and sort ya mess out for ya. You can go get pissed, have a shag or get a small thin man playing a bontempi organ to piss over it and it will just smile back and keep the show running for you. Thats how an amp should be. If you have an amp that you have to set limiters for, or have to monitor closely, then don't but an Infinite 8V2 as you're have nothing to do all night and get bored.
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Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 18 June 2007 at 12:08pm
If I do all of those things simultaneously at the end of the month and my new shiny amp goes wrong or my cabs pop can I claim them all under the warranty that comes with the amp?  |
Posted By: Rog
Date Posted: 18 June 2007 at 12:19pm
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uuuummmmmmm....... In a word, NO.
You can clam for laundry expenses if the amp pisses on your leg though.
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Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 18 June 2007 at 12:23pm
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doesn't electricity travel up piss? like when you piss up a electro fence? ------------- ......just all them hanging there like giant bananas. |
Posted By: Rog
Date Posted: 18 June 2007 at 12:29pm
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Yeah,
But the Infinite does not use electric, its uses very soft feathers that are hand picked from angels wings. These feathers are then very carefully rubbed together by monks to produce a static charge that supplys the voltage required to power the amp.
You might need a hairdryer to dry the feathers if they get slighly damp due to the piss though.
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Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 18 June 2007 at 12:31pm
 ------------- ......just all them hanging there like giant bananas. |
Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 21 June 2007 at 5:26pm
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Jethro, can you briefly explain the proposed slight increase in price once these drivers start rolling in ? I don't want to say the wrong thing & start a new war.
Cheers.
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Posted By: Jethro PAP
Date Posted: 22 June 2007 at 9:22am
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Sure, we are currently offering the driver at an introductory price of 239.95 GBP. This enables customers to secure their drivers before I take stock on the 10th July. When the drivers are in they will then be available at our standard trade price of 249.99 GBP. I have done this as an incentive for early birds to pay and secure there drivers as I know I will sell out and don't want to let anyone down. ------------- www.ProAudioParts.co.uk |
Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 22 June 2007 at 11:42am
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can we pay 240 and 250 and give the 5p and a penny to a child labour charity? ------------- ......just all them hanging there like giant bananas. |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 22 June 2007 at 5:31pm
Any chance of dropping the price of V18-1000 as well during the "price revisiting" scheme ? ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: Rog
Date Posted: 23 June 2007 at 3:38am
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Price revisiting scheme. I always said on here that the price of the V18-1200 was £249.95. Then a Void retailer decides to lower the price by £10 for a promo offer and you moan. Less is more in this case. Horse, gift mouth. Words like these are springing to mind. If a shop wants to offer a first time discount on a new product, don't knock it, take advantage and buy it.
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Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 23 June 2007 at 3:42am
Ian! remember when you phoned Aldcroft's for us and got an 'SP' group discount?
any chance you can phone PAP and get a SP discount for the V18 1200  ------------- ......just all them hanging there like giant bananas. |
Posted By: Rog
Date Posted: 23 June 2007 at 9:45am
| You just did, its called £10 |
Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 23 June 2007 at 12:05pm
You who ?
Who's moaning about the price ? How comes there no mention on the PAP website of it being an introductory or promotional offer ?
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Posted By: gingerbiscuit69
Date Posted: 26 June 2007 at 8:15pm
| this is getting bitchy alrede over nothing ... i love it! |
Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 27 June 2007 at 9:08am
Hi Jethro, is this date still going ahead as planned ? If so, when will you be sending them out ? Just would like to know if there's a possibility of them reaching the customers by the week/end (30/06/07 - 01/07/07)
Cheers.
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Posted By: Jethro PAP
Date Posted: 27 June 2007 at 9:57am
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They will be in my warehouse on the 10th so no im afriad.
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Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 27 June 2007 at 10:46am
OK, cheers.
Collection allowed like before ?
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Posted By: Jethro PAP
Date Posted: 27 June 2007 at 12:41pm
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Yes by all means you can come and collect when they are in. I have only a few left for sale on this order so its first come first served... ------------- www.ProAudioParts.co.uk |
Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 11 July 2007 at 6:18pm
Would love to come hear this lot Gramps but I need to go to a next session in Walsall that night.
Is it a monthly gig you doing or what ? When's the next one ?
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Posted By: Gramps
Date Posted: 12 July 2007 at 3:26am
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Afraid its only about once every 3 months we do this one... They do a weekly night but in a tiny club, shame really as they play really good tunes and get some pretty special singers and bands in for the big ones (check them out at- www.myspace.com/rootsgarden), got their own record label now as well and some sweet sounds coming out.
------------- To do a dull thing with style - now that's an art. |
Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 13 July 2007 at 2:15pm
Jethro/Rog/Alex, has everything gone according to the planned date on receiving these drivers on this date ?
If so, when will you be sending them out ?
Can't get hold of PAP as your phones are still out. You got a next number or Fax ?
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Posted By: Rog
Date Posted: 14 July 2007 at 2:20am
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Tek,
PAP have received the V18-1200's and I've been told will be sending them out on Monday.
PAP ain't a big crew as you know Tek and there's lots of orders to get out, so a bit of patience would be good.
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Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 14 July 2007 at 10:10am
OK, thanks for letting me know.
I never know PAP ain't no big crew. I thought they were linked with Void & was a massive production/distribution company.
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Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 14 July 2007 at 10:31am
Thanks Roger, for letting me know it's me you're talking about moaning.
This was in my inbox from you...So you still ain't changed then. Ain't you got no balls ?
Why post something then remove it ? Come on man, if/when you post your thoughts at the time whatever you're thinking, don't remove it later - I think that is babyish.
You started a thread about the new Looney Bins_v2 a few months ago, Ginger then wrote something
which seems as if you didn't like or didn't approve of it, then you removed the whole thread. Why do things like that ? You want me to repost it for you ?
Does the below sound like someone who's moaning ?
Now show me where in that lot you see where I'm moaning. (Is like you're trying to make me look like some kind a fool.)
There you go Ginger, you said you love all this kinda stuff.
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Posted By: gingerbiscuit69
Date Posted: 14 July 2007 at 11:15am
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im interested to see where this is going...
thought id shutup b4 the tamtrums come back |
Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 14 July 2007 at 11:21am
| Nah mate. It's very tame. It's not meant to be going any where, just geeting my point across to this geezer. simple tings. |
Posted By: Rog
Date Posted: 15 July 2007 at 3:16am
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I retract I alot I write because I know people like you Tek will take it the wrong way then start a war cause you ain't got nothing better to do. Its my fault, I should be more aware of how some members react to posts and not post stuff that will disrupt the now smooth running of the forum. |
Posted By: Rog
Date Posted: 15 July 2007 at 3:32am
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"This was in my inbox from you...So you still ain't changed then. Ain't you got no balls ?
Why post something then remove it ? Come on man, if/when you post your thoughts at the time whatever you're thinking, don't remove it later - I think that is babyish."
Maybe we are the same Tek and both like wars. Sometimes when you've had it bad all ya life you try and make everything bad around you to feel comfortable. Some of us are trying to break the chain and let go of our past. Bringing back posts all the time where members are fighting is just one example of needing to be surrounded in discomfort to feel good.
Yeah, I know you get emailed all the new posts and if they get deleted you still see them.
You and me, we ain't that dissimilar, but I am trying to let go of all the sh*t and make a positive place for folks to learn and bring enjoyment to the masses. We ain't here for us, all we do is provide the sound for people to have a good time.
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Posted By: gingerbiscuit69
Date Posted: 15 July 2007 at 11:28am
| nicely said - i often say stuff i should rele not say and dont think about it, so if someone takes it as a hostile comment, and replys as such, i tend to let it fly. no point in argueing .... after all, its a bloomin online forum, fights are for el mano to el mano! |
Posted By: popdown
Date Posted: 15 July 2007 at 10:01pm
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To use the forum to dis each other and then watch morans post child like comments, wow,wow,wow,wee!! for the kids who pretend they are big men,this might give them a thrill. so fix up or sod off twats  ------------- why keep a good man down ??? |
Posted By: TONY.A.S.S.
Date Posted: 15 July 2007 at 10:51pm
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Well, Mr Anonymous. 8 Posts in7months. I'm amazed at your concern. Give us some good posts about the business and get us back on the right track. ------------- http://www.facebook.com/tony.rossell.3" rel="nofollow - http://www.facebook.com/tony.rossell.3 |
Posted By: Robbo
Date Posted: 16 July 2007 at 9:00am
| Obviously been watching too much of Charlie on Big Brother---I wonder if she can spell any better. |
Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 16 July 2007 at 11:46am
Yep, good assumption. I sit in all day doing nothing at all, digging up old posts, creating so called wars. You really got the wrong guy.
If anything was in any of the posts which was thought to be not acceptable, they would have been removed by the govenors or moderators, or warnings would have been sent out. That hasn't happened so they must be OK.
Strange though, I ask two questions, one about the price, the other about the delivery date, & I've disrupted the forum! Fix up!
Just because I ain't bowing down to you / some of the people on here, you think I'm just gonna sit back & take abuse on the forum then get replies back by PM on the quiet, I ain't having it.
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Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 16 July 2007 at 8:54pm
Thanks for the update Jethro on expected delivery date.
 If only you'd rang a couple of days before.!!! As we're back on track - Demonstration time. |
Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 17 July 2007 at 8:24am
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Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 17 July 2007 at 12:17pm
I still love the irony of someone spelling 'morons' incorrectly. |
Posted By: Jamo supa powa
Date Posted: 17 July 2007 at 11:06pm
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Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 18 July 2007 at 5:04am
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http://www.freetranslation.com/ - http://www.freetranslation.com/ ------------- ......just all them hanging there like giant bananas. |
Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 18 July 2007 at 9:12am
Yow Jamo, deh yah! Want to reach as I'm sure Bosrah going surprise Earthquake. Will link still. Laterz.
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Posted By: TONY.A.S.S.
Date Posted: 18 July 2007 at 9:24am
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Mikey, Teks your man ------------- http://www.facebook.com/tony.rossell.3" rel="nofollow - http://www.facebook.com/tony.rossell.3 |
Posted By: popdown
Date Posted: 18 July 2007 at 1:16pm
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Prejudice is bias. Prejudice refers to the negative opinions, judgments,
beliefs, and feelings we hold about individuals because of their membership in
certain groups or categories. When these negative views lead us to act in
certain ways toward these individuals and groups, the result is
discrimination.It may be defined as the hatred of one person by another -- or
the belief that another person is less than human -- because of skin color,
language, customs, place of birth or any factor that supposedly reveals the
basic nature of that person. It has influenced wars, slavery, the formation of
nations, and legal codes. ------------- why keep a good man down ??? |
Posted By: TONY.A.S.S.
Date Posted: 18 July 2007 at 2:33pm
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Yes we hear you. But are you just about to build a speaker? ------------- http://www.facebook.com/tony.rossell.3" rel="nofollow - http://www.facebook.com/tony.rossell.3 |
Posted By: popdown
Date Posted: 18 July 2007 at 2:39pm
What life has taught me ------------- why keep a good man down ??? |
Posted By: TONY.A.S.S.
Date Posted: 18 July 2007 at 4:34pm
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You are trying to preach to the wrong people, you need the politicians. You are also in the wrong thread, and if this is all you need to say you are in the wrong forum. My respect to you for your views, but you are in the wrong place. ------------- http://www.facebook.com/tony.rossell.3" rel="nofollow - http://www.facebook.com/tony.rossell.3 |
Posted By: DUBPLATE
Date Posted: 18 July 2007 at 6:12pm
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Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 23 July 2007 at 2:15pm
Jethro PAP - Check your PM's. ASAP.
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Posted By: chilli
Date Posted: 06 August 2007 at 10:57pm
speakerplans eh?
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Posted By: klinieker
Date Posted: 14 May 2013 at 12:25pm
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Hi there, maybe trying to resurect on old topic but can anyone confirm the v18-1200 drivers with production date 31-10-2007 are the so called early v1200 with the shiny metal magnet, and that there are now replaced by a black coated magnet with different bracing as well. We have 2 blown impulse8 cabs that we now want to get new drivers for, can anyone confirm that the black coated v1200 are the way to go and the shiny one that still works may have to be replaced as well. the pdf spec sheets linked to in the opening post have been removed, does anyone have a copy of these still? regards, Wendell Cheers |
Posted By: Requiem
Date Posted: 14 May 2013 at 3:33pm
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Good luck, Re-cone kits for the Void 1200 cost as much as a BRAND NEW Void v18 1000. Hence why we have 4 blown 1200s we've never got reconed... cheaper just to get a new driver! I dont know much about the black coated ones but i think they are v18 1000s, ive got some. as far as i know only the shiny metal magnet 1200s were released, but dont take my word for it. If you want to take the 1200s off my hands im willing to accept... pretty much anything for them  ------------- www.requiem-soundsystem.com Custom Martin Audio WSX, USB & CSG Soundsystem based in Bristol |
Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 14 May 2013 at 6:41pm
Would you accept any of these?   ------------- Global Depopulation - Alive and Killing. |
Posted By: Requiem
Date Posted: 16 May 2013 at 12:59am
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The plane, the car or the helicopter should have some decent scrap metal value... willing to accept any of those ------------- www.requiem-soundsystem.com Custom Martin Audio WSX, USB & CSG Soundsystem based in Bristol |
Posted By: klinieker
Date Posted: 21 May 2013 at 1:06pm
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http://www.freeimagehosting.net/l9l7j http://www.freehosting.net/l9l7j -  Thank you for your reply, I have tried to link a picture with both kinds of blown drivers from the impulse8 cabs can you tell if these are indeed the v1000 and two v1200 ? Cheers, wendell |
Posted By: thepersonunknown
Date Posted: 21 May 2013 at 4:59pm
could be ur best one yet lev..  ------------- They keep telling me life is short, but its the longest thing ive ever done!!! |