Tips for first time builder
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Topic: Tips for first time builder
Posted By: danparrott
Subject: Tips for first time builder
Date Posted: 31 May 2020 at 6:32pm
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Hi guys, I'm getting a pair martin 215 markIIIs CNC cut and putting it all together myself. Any tips for my first time building? E.g Equipment I'll need, screw size to use, what glue to use, what size wheels to add (will be about 100kg loaded)
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Posted By: dlyxover
Date Posted: 31 May 2020 at 7:52pm
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A brad nail gun is useful but requires a compressor also. I would recommend 4x40mm screws, I like the torx head. http://www.toolstation.com/forgefast-multi-purpose-self-drilling-wood-screw/p39550" rel="nofollow - http://www.toolstation.com/forgefast-multi-purpose-self-drilling-wood-screw/p39550 I use ever build 502 not had any issues, unless cold; goes chalkey. http://www.toolstation.com/interior-exterior-pva-wood-glue/p22271" rel="nofollow - http://www.toolstation.com/interior-exterior-pva-wood-glue/p22271 or if you want a waterproof glue go for the D4 http://www.toolstation.com/d4-wood-glue/p61864" rel="nofollow - http://www.toolstation.com/d4-wood-glue/p61864 A standard for castors is the 100mm like these http://www.penn-elcom.com/default.asp?PN=W0975-V6%20-%20W0990-V6&LG=EN" rel="nofollow - http://www.penn-elcom.com/default.asp?PN=W0975-V6%20-%20W0990-V6&LG=EN You want put tee nuts on the inside of the cab M6 will be sufficent. Have fun
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Posted By: JonB67
Date Posted: 31 May 2020 at 8:24pm
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Jury is out on here, but i prefer fully threaded inserts to t nuts for fitting drivers. If a thread seized it'll still come out. T nuts for handles, top hats and wheels.
Dry fit and clamp everything up before you glue to make sure it's all snug and square. Have the right size clamps for the job. It's just much easier and the finish is better as a result. |
Posted By: danparrott
Date Posted: 01 June 2020 at 10:27am
| Amazing thanks both of you, how many clamps would you say I’ll need? |
Posted By: danparrott
Date Posted: 01 June 2020 at 11:57am
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Will gorilla glue do the job? https://www.toolstation.com/gorilla-wood-glue/p60395" rel="nofollow - https://www.toolstation.com/gorilla-wood-glue/p60395 The one you reccomended is out of stock
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Posted By: studio45
Date Posted: 01 June 2020 at 2:22pm
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Gorilla glue is OK, but messy, and not quite as strong as PVA. If it's all you can get then it will be fine. With 4x40mm screws as well, the box will be strong. As for clamps - n+1 ;) I'd start by buying four long clamps and four small ones. That should see you through a few builds. But you'll always want more! ------------- Studio45 - Repairs & Building Commotion Soundsystem -Mobile PA |
Posted By: JonB67
Date Posted: 01 June 2020 at 2:52pm
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That gorilla glue is like a pva. I suspect you're thinking of the polyurethane gorilla glue.
The glue in the link is good, I've used it to build cabs. It dries fast, and the bottle has a really good applicator. Like all glues, pop the top off and wash it when you're finished and it'll stay good for the whole bottle. Clamps, studio 45 nailed it, you always need one more than you have. 4 sash clamps and 4 pistol grip clamps will get you started., and you can build up as you need. I like the irwin heavy duty ones but they're fairly expensive. |
Posted By: danparrott
Date Posted: 01 June 2020 at 3:46pm
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Thanks, will these do the job? https://www.toolstation.com/f-clamp/p28859?store=H8&utm_source=googleshopping&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=googleshoppingfeed&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIyf6577ng6QIVUO7tCh0bTw_MEAQYASABEgKOgvD_BwE" rel="nofollow - https://www.toolstation.com/f-clamp/p28859?store=H8&utm_source=googleshopping&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=googleshoppingfeed&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIyf6577ng6QIVUO7tCh0bTw_MEAQYASABEgKOgvD_BwE
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Posted By: danparrott
Date Posted: 01 June 2020 at 4:36pm
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Would people recommend using tee nuts for the access panels too? The handles are on the access panels |
Posted By: njw
Date Posted: 01 June 2020 at 6:06pm
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Those clamps you've linked too will do the job of holding smaller panels but you'll want some longer sash clamps for the larger panels; https://www.screwfix.com/c/tools/clamps/cat831044?producttype=sash_clamp&cm_sp=managedredirect-_-handtools-_-sashclamps" rel="nofollow - https://www.screwfix.com/c/tools/clamps/cat831044?producttype=sash_clamp&cm_sp=managedredirect-_-handtools-_-sashclamps I'd also get a rubber mallet to tap panels into place to make sure everything is perfectly square before screwing together. I'd normally recommend threaded inserts for the access panels (and the driver, as already said) but as the handles are on the access panels I'd probably use T-nuts (on the handles and panels).
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Posted By: Boxes-R-Blue
Date Posted: 06 June 2020 at 1:32am
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Put copper slip (copper loaded grease) on Caster and driver bolts.. Complete waste of time until you need to take them out and then it all becomes clear!!! I would also use drywall (plasterboard) screws (with the supplied driver bit) as they don't corrode. If not those Screwfix TurboGold save so much time it is not funny.. ------------- Kinda Been there, Kinda done that, YOU COULDN'T handle my bar bill! |
Posted By: Digbethdave
Date Posted: 06 June 2020 at 8:24pm
| What drivers are you planning? |
Posted By: danparrott
Date Posted: 06 June 2020 at 11:10pm
| Pd1550s |