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X1 in for a refurb.

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Topic: X1 in for a refurb.
Posted By: FOO
Subject: X1 in for a refurb.
Date Posted: 01 July 2020 at 4:12pm
Hi Guys. I have four X1 cabs in for a refurb and reload. Owner wants Void v18-1000 in them. But does there exist any other modern drivers that works like a charm in this box ?

Also, there are No handles in these puppys. Owner wants me to put handles in them. Im thinking two handles each side in the chamber. Or is it enough with one each side ?




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Posted By: cravings
Date Posted: 01 July 2020 at 8:42pm
i have one handle per side in mine.. it's fine. they're a 2 man lift.

v18-1000 is the proven driver. or pd1850 i believe. i've never tried any others.


Posted By: FOO
Date Posted: 01 July 2020 at 9:07pm
Originally posted by cravings cravings wrote:

i have one handle per side in mine.. it's fine. they're a 2 man lift.

v18-1000 is the proven driver. or pd1850 i believe. i've never tried any others.

What are you using? Steelbar handles or cut out with back bowl? Im a bit concerned about taking up top much volume with a large back bowl of wood.

V18-1000 has the lead then :) not that expensive either.


Posted By: cravings
Date Posted: 01 July 2020 at 9:32pm
my first pair i put bar handles.. they were my first ever build. they don't make sense. build back boxes. the x1 is big, no worries volume wise for some handle boxes.

if photobucket wasn't fucked i could dig out some pics..


Posted By: csg
Date Posted: 01 July 2020 at 10:00pm
Penn sell plastic back bowls for around a quid each. Much easier. Im working my way through a box of 100 at the moment...

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Posted By: FOO
Date Posted: 02 July 2020 at 6:23am
Originally posted by cravings cravings wrote:

my first pair i put bar handles.. they were my first ever build. they don't make sense. build back boxes. the x1 is big, no worries volume wise for some handle boxes.

if photobucket wasn't fucked i could dig out some pics..

Why dont they make sense? Because they only Work in one way ?

Originally posted by csg csg wrote:

Penn sell plastic back bowls for around a quid each. Much easier. Im working my way through a box of 100 at the moment...

Are those bowls stiff enough to deal with the pressure inside a box like this?


Posted By: csg
Date Posted: 02 July 2020 at 1:19pm
Yes. Countless pro manufacturers use them or similar.

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Posted By: FOO
Date Posted: 04 July 2020 at 5:31pm
Guess its good then. Thank you for the tip :)


Posted By: FOO
Date Posted: 09 July 2020 at 6:21pm
So.... I got my hands on four Void V18 for these X1 and loaded them.
But one question comes to mind.. shouldnt there be damping material on the inside of the front panel and in the inside corner of the front chamber?


Posted By: Digbethdave
Date Posted: 09 July 2020 at 7:33pm
If they are to original plan, I'd just put castors on the back. The ports are good enough handles for getting them onto wheels. And also for stacking them up.
Half the time handles are never in the right place. 
I believe the original plans had no wadding 


Posted By: FOO
Date Posted: 09 July 2020 at 8:03pm
As far as i can see, they are made to original plans. 
Regarding handles, they are needed. They got fullface grills, so a bit difficult to grab the ports :(

I just checked the original plans. No wadding. But i have seen a plan on another site where wadding is added. I will stick with the original then.


Posted By: edboom
Date Posted: 09 July 2020 at 8:21pm
In the construction guide, Rog puts wadding on some of the inside cab walls. It's not exactly the same cab, but it's very very similar.


Posted By: FOO
Date Posted: 09 July 2020 at 8:32pm
I just had a hit in the search. I call it wadding, but others call it lining.
That made a difference :)

https://forum.speakerplans.com/should-the-x1-have-lining-in-the-chamber_topic94207.html" rel="nofollow - https://forum.speakerplans.com/should-the-x1-have-lining-in-the-chamber_topic94207.html

So wadding in the chamber :)


Posted By: Digbethdave
Date Posted: 09 July 2020 at 9:09pm
If its on castors, even with full grill, it's easy enough to move and stack without handles. 


Posted By: FOO
Date Posted: 10 July 2020 at 9:20am
Tried to convince the owner, but he want handles. Fair enough then :)

Will a JBL SRX725 dual 15" fullrange box be able to handle two X1 underneath? 
A stack each side powered by a rack with Crown MA 1200 and 2x MA5000.


Posted By: csg
Date Posted: 10 July 2020 at 1:47pm
Yes. Easily.

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Posted By: FOO
Date Posted: 10 July 2020 at 5:35pm
Okay Smile i had my doubt as almost everyone in here swear to use HD15 or something similar above them, for kicks. So would not expect a dual 15 fullrange bassreflex box to work good above these. People state they are very powerfull these subs.



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