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Topic: Old school Martin audio fans...
Posted By: KWB75
Subject: Old school Martin audio fans...
Date Posted: 30 January 2021 at 7:26pm
To celebrate Martin audio's 50th year - i thought i'd build myself a mini Martin audio modular stack!

The whole thing is just 10 inches wide x 15 inches high, pair of boots for scale.

215MK3 bass section is a single 5 inch subwoofer (£5 ripped from a Logitech sub!) + 8 inch passive radiator on the back of the cab. Built from 12mm MDF, then 6mm ply outer.

MH212 is 2 x 2.5 inch full range drivers (Also £5 from a Canton sound base!), the top is just for show. 

Powered off of a TPA3116 2.1 amplifier.





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Posted By: mk2_ginger_biscuit69
Date Posted: 30 January 2021 at 7:40pm
that is one of the coolest projects that's been on here this year!! I like it a LOT.


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Posted By: infrasound
Date Posted: 30 January 2021 at 8:47pm
Fantastic! Love the modelmaking aesthetic to it. 

Sure beats the loads of 3D printed 'mini rigs' out there.


Posted By: njw
Date Posted: 30 January 2021 at 11:49pm
  I like that a lot! I'd bet that the full size version of that stack could still give most modern systems a run for their money all these years later.


Posted By: MarcoAudio
Date Posted: 31 January 2021 at 12:14am
That is totally amazing KW


Posted By: concept-10
Date Posted: 31 January 2021 at 5:50am
Epic, well done Smile


Posted By: jbl_man
Date Posted: 31 January 2021 at 9:25am
Completely fooled me for a moment. The detail is amazing,how did you make the handles? Clap

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Posted By: Earplug
Date Posted: 31 January 2021 at 9:47am
Gulliver's boots!!  LOL LOL LOL


Man - that is an amazing build! Love it.  Clap Clap Clap 


"I'd bet that the full size version of that stack could still give most modern systems a run for their money all these years later."

I have Phillies - and they do!  Smile




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Posted By: cravings
Date Posted: 31 January 2021 at 10:42am
10/10


Posted By: Phil B
Date Posted: 31 January 2021 at 11:04am
Nice work fella... 10/10 indeed ! P

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Posted By: VECTORDJ
Date Posted: 31 January 2021 at 12:23pm
AAAAA+


Posted By: Earplug
Date Posted: 31 January 2021 at 1:07pm
What would that cost to build?

I bet that you could sell them the bay! Or here!!  Big smile




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Posted By: djeddie
Date Posted: 31 January 2021 at 2:39pm
Awesome! Love it!

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Posted By: mattd
Date Posted: 31 January 2021 at 5:53pm
I would buy one of these for good money if you can make another one to sell ! Love MA modular.


Posted By: Andylaser
Date Posted: 31 January 2021 at 7:48pm
Superb. You need to find someone with a laser cutter and offer flat pack kts. :)


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Posted By: djscooby
Date Posted: 31 January 2021 at 7:53pm
Take my effing money!!

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Posted By: jammin75
Date Posted: 31 January 2021 at 8:03pm
Thumbs Up

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Posted By: Bams
Date Posted: 31 January 2021 at 9:49pm
Finally a martin modular rig which won’t ruin your back! Great looks and propably way better sound than any jbl Flip-like device. 


Posted By: studio45
Date Posted: 01 February 2021 at 2:17pm
Amazing! I love it!

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Posted By: midas
Date Posted: 01 February 2021 at 6:20pm
Brilliant.. 

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Posted By: bass*en*mass
Date Posted: 01 February 2021 at 8:32pm
Thumbs Up


Posted By: madboffin
Date Posted: 01 February 2021 at 9:53pm
That's wonderful!

But now you have to build the stack for the other side, and a full set of LE400's and a couple of H350 sidefills...




Posted By: Earplug
Date Posted: 02 February 2021 at 9:41am
Haha - and maybe some old Harrison amps to drive the thing.   Smile




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Posted By: Digbethdave
Date Posted: 02 February 2021 at 8:40pm
Originally posted by madboffin madboffin wrote:

That's wonderful!

But now you have to build the stack for the other side, and a full set of LE400's and a couple of H350 sidefills...



Id be in for a pair of scale H350....


Posted By: Digbethdave
Date Posted: 02 February 2021 at 8:42pm
Originally posted by KWB75 KWB75 wrote:

To celebrate Martin audio's 50th year - i thought i'd build myself a mini Martin audio modular stack!

The whole thing is just 10 inches wide x 15 inches high, pair of boots for scale.

215MK3 bass section is a single 5 inch subwoofer (£5 ripped from a Logitech sub!) + 8 inch passive radiator on the back of the cab. Built from 12mm MDF, then 6mm ply outer.

MH212 is 2 x 2.5 inch full range drivers (Also £5 from a Canton sound base!), the top is just for show. 

Powered off of a TPA3116 2.1 amplifier.



3 is the magic number on the mk3. 


Posted By: Pinyorouk
Date Posted: 02 February 2021 at 9:58pm
Which Harrison amps would they have used? Thanks

Originally posted by Earplug Earplug wrote:

Haha - and maybe some old Harrison amps to drive the thing.   Smile




Posted By: Earplug
Date Posted: 03 February 2021 at 6:06am
Originally posted by Pinyorouk Pinyorouk wrote:

Which Harrison amps would they have used? Thanks

Originally posted by Earplug Earplug wrote:

Haha - and maybe some old Harrison amps to drive the thing.   Smile




Well - I say Harrison, but you equally could have had other classic old amps, Crown, BGW, C-Audio, Citronic - or of course, Martin's own brand amps as well.  Smile

I just mentioned the Harrisons because I have fond memories of lugging their 5kW and 10kW monsters around, like 30 years ago...  LOL LOL LOL




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Posted By: knet94
Date Posted: 03 February 2021 at 2:45pm
I used a lot of Harrison amps back in the late 80s and 90s. The biggest one I ever came across was the the Xi2000. Would love to find some info on 5k and 10k ones.


Posted By: madboffin
Date Posted: 03 February 2021 at 3:30pm
Originally posted by Earplug Earplug wrote:

... classic old amps, Crown, BGW, C-Audio, Citronic - or of course, Martin's own brand amps as well. 

You could add RSD and HH to the list, but Martin didn't have any amplifiers branded with their name in those days (1980s).




Posted By: Earplug
Date Posted: 03 February 2021 at 5:08pm
Originally posted by knet94 knet94 wrote:

I used a lot of Harrison amps back in the late 80s and 90s. The biggest one I ever came across was the the Xi2000. Would love to find some info on 5k and 10k ones.



Yes - not much info around on those. They were rare. I think that the 10kW was similar to the Crest 10001 in that it worked down to 1 or 2 ohm loads.

And IIRC, the 5kW was 2 x 2kW amps in bridge, ie 4 x amp boards bridged, 2 and 2. That didn't work below 4ohm, but was also a beast. Maybe 40/45kg. And dozens of MOSFETs. 





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Posted By: Earplug
Date Posted: 03 February 2021 at 5:11pm
Originally posted by madboffin madboffin wrote:

Originally posted by Earplug Earplug wrote:

... classic old amps, Crown, BGW, C-Audio, Citronic - or of course, Martin's own brand amps as well. 

You could add RSD and HH to the list, but Martin didn't have any amplifiers branded with their name in those days (1980s).




Ok, yes, true. And Mr. Hill with his very unique designs.   Smile




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Posted By: knet94
Date Posted: 04 February 2021 at 11:43am
Originally posted by Earplug Earplug wrote:

Originally posted by knet94 knet94 wrote:

I used a lot of Harrison amps back in the late 80s and 90s. The biggest one I ever came across was the the Xi2000. Would love to find some info on 5k and 10k ones.



Yes - not much info around on those. They were rare. I think that the 10kW was similar to the Crest 10001 in that it worked down to 1 or 2 ohm loads.

And IIRC, the 5kW was 2 x 2kW amps in bridge, ie 4 x amp boards bridged, 2 and 2. That didn't work below 4ohm, but was also a beast. Maybe 40/45kg. And dozens of MOSFETs. 




I remember now that Harrison had a K Series that iirc comprised of the K2000, K3000, K4000 and the K5000. These were heavy amps with the K4000 being 3u. Those numbers did not seem to be indicative of the power ratings though with the K3000 (the one that I'm most familiar with) only being 650w RMS per channel at 4 ohms.




Posted By: Earplug
Date Posted: 04 February 2021 at 12:12pm
Originally posted by knet94 knet94 wrote:

Originally posted by Earplug Earplug wrote:

Originally posted by knet94 knet94 wrote:

I used a lot of Harrison amps back in the late 80s and 90s. The biggest one I ever came across was the the Xi2000. Would love to find some info on 5k and 10k ones.



Yes - not much info around on those. They were rare. I think that the 10kW was similar to the Crest 10001 in that it worked down to 1 or 2 ohm loads.

And IIRC, the 5kW was 2 x 2kW amps in bridge, ie 4 x amp boards bridged, 2 and 2. That didn't work below 4ohm, but was also a beast. Maybe 40/45kg. And dozens of MOSFETs. 




I remember now that Harrison had a K Series that iirc comprised of the K2000, K3000, K4000 and the K5000. These were heavy amps with the K4000 being 3u. Those numbers did not seem to be indicative of the power ratings though with the K3000 (the one that I'm most familiar with) only being 650w RMS per channel at 4 ohms.






Ok - finally managed to find some info - and photos.

They were the Compu-tek Series:-

http://audiorelic.blogspot.com/2014/11/etapas-de-potencia-harrison.html" rel="nofollow - http://audiorelic.blogspot.com/2014/11/etapas-de-potencia-harrison.html






Monsters!  LOL











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Posted By: knet94
Date Posted: 04 February 2021 at 12:24pm
Wow! Never even heard of these before. They do look monstrous.


Posted By: Pinheiro
Date Posted: 04 February 2021 at 1:11pm
hi all

nº off metric ton´s on the 10000 model LOL?

p.s. nice models on the classic Martin Thumbs Up 5 star job
yours Vitor


Posted By: Earplug
Date Posted: 04 February 2021 at 2:39pm
Originally posted by knet94 knet94 wrote:

Wow! Never even heard of these before. They do look monstrous.



A couple of PA companies I worked for/with down here used these - to drive ASS systems. Both brands imported by the same guy.

They sounded great - but, as noted in the article I linked to, were not too reliable. Which meant carrying spares, which added to costs, which meant people soon moved on to other alternatives. You can't be crossing your fingers that the amps last the night. Or have to swap amps mid gig. That tends to lose you clients.   Ouch





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Posted By: jbl_man
Date Posted: 04 February 2021 at 4:07pm
That makes some interesting reading Earplug. Do you reckon Mr. Harrison had just seen the Crown Macro-tec range when he came up with the case design? LOL

The inside looks conventional multi- K135/J50 layout,albeit with some hybrid drive modules there.

That big one would make a terrific wharehouse/barn heater i reckon.

Or for small welding jobs.

http://audiorelic.blogspot.com/2014/11/etapas-de-potencia-harrison.html" rel="nofollow - http://audiorelic.blogspot.com/2014/11/etapas-de-potencia-harrison.html


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Posted By: Earplug
Date Posted: 04 February 2021 at 4:30pm
Originally posted by jbl_man jbl_man wrote:

That makes some interesting reading Earplug. Do you reckon Mr. Harrison had just seen the Crown Macro-tec range when he came up with the case design? LOL

The inside looks conventional multi- K135/J50 layout,albeit with some hybrid drive modules there.

That big one would make a terrific wharehouse/barn heater i reckon.

Or for small welding jobs.

http://audiorelic.blogspot.com/2014/11/etapas-de-potencia-harrison.html" rel="nofollow - http://audiorelic.blogspot.com/2014/11/etapas-de-potencia-harrison.html



Ok - not too sure about that. Maybe Tony ASS would be able to answer those sort of questions.  Smile


And the K135/J50 MOSFETs were definitely the flavour of the month for quite a while. Bomb-proof devices. The problem was the other circuitry around them. Sometimes simple is the best, eg the Maplin modules - but when you need high power levels, you have to do some clever trickery to deliver. That can introduce problems like instability, etc.






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Posted By: BJtheDJ
Date Posted: 04 February 2021 at 4:54pm
Originally posted by jbl_man jbl_man wrote:

That makes some interesting reading Earplug. Do you reckon Mr. Harrison had just seen the Crown Macro-tec range when he came up with the case design? LOL

The inside looks conventional multi- K135/J50 layout,albeit with some hybrid drive modules there.

That big one would make a terrific wharehouse/barn heater i reckon.

Or for small welding jobs.

http://audiorelic.blogspot.com/2014/11/etapas-de-potencia-harrison.html" rel="nofollow - http://audiorelic.blogspot.com/2014/11/etapas-de-potencia-harrison.html

Spilt my tea on the keyboard laughing at that.

Mis-read it as Wedding Jobs LOL



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Posted By: Bams
Date Posted: 04 February 2021 at 5:46pm
Well .... the crowd on the martin facebookpage goes wild! Time for a limited edition production run .. flat pack of course ;)


Posted By: fat_brstd
Date Posted: 04 February 2021 at 10:23pm
Yep, we sent it over to Martin Audio to let them know and they have posted it to their Facebook page and it is getting lots of really positive responses.

https://www.facebook.com/martinaudioltd/photos/a.352132848200817/3654965367917532/" rel="nofollow - https://www.facebook.com/martinaudioltd/photos/a.352132848200817/3654965367917532/

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Posted By: KWB75
Date Posted: 04 February 2021 at 10:37pm
Thanks all!

Yes, good to see Martin pick it up - some great feedback on there Embarrassed It’s been a nice little project to work on, apart from those bloody handles! I’ll take a few more pics over the weekend.

On to the next one, I’ve done the L’acoustics SB28/K2 stack, and the vintage reggae stack, what next?...


Posted By: Earplug
Date Posted: 05 February 2021 at 8:58am
Originally posted by KWB75 KWB75 wrote:

Thanks all!

Yes, good to see Martin pick it up - some great feedback on there Embarrassed It’s been a nice little project to work on, apart from those bloody handles! I’ll take a few more pics over the weekend.

On to the next one, I’ve done the L’acoustics SB28/K2 stack, and the vintage reggae stack, what next?...



Good to see Martin pick that up - warranted recognition of an amazing job well done!   Smile

And how did you make those handles? Or is that a trade secret!!  LOL





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Posted By: Robbo
Date Posted: 05 February 2021 at 9:50am
Originally posted by KWB75 KWB75 wrote:

Thanks all!

Yes, good to see Martin pick it up - some great feedback on there Embarrassed It’s been a nice little project to work on, apart from those bloody handles! I’ll take a few more pics over the weekend.

On to the next one, I’ve done the L’acoustics SB28/K2 stack, and the vintage reggae stack, what next?...

I reckon a Turbosound TMS3 would look awesome in miniature and I bet that a TSE111 would be about the size of a matchbox---keep up the good work!!


Posted By: mattd
Date Posted: 05 February 2021 at 7:56pm
Seriously if you ever make any to sell I'd certainly pay good money for one. 

I cant stop thinking about your tini martin rig haha! I have the full size version in the lockup.

Truly amazing project that is :)


Posted By: KWB75
Date Posted: 20 February 2021 at 6:52pm
A few more pics...













Posted By: fat_brstd
Date Posted: 21 February 2021 at 10:30am
Lovely

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Posted By: JYSE
Date Posted: 08 May 2021 at 9:14am
Excellent stuff


Posted By: Preacher
Date Posted: 08 May 2021 at 4:10pm
Top quality stuff there. Clap


Posted By: martinsson
Date Posted: 09 May 2021 at 5:47am
Amazing work!

If I had the skills, tallent and time required to do something similar I would attempt a TFS780H/780L set, or perhaps even a TMS-3, in the case of the latter it would feel good to finally be able lift it or even move it around.


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Posted By: thomed
Date Posted: 19 November 2021 at 7:58am
I think I will need to commission a build for 2 of these from you!!! 
😬👍 Absolutely fantastic work!!! 


Posted By: teeth
Date Posted: 19 November 2021 at 9:53am
that's absolutely AMAZING. props!

if think if you did commissions i'd not be able to resist!


Posted By: Andylaser
Date Posted: 20 November 2021 at 8:09pm
Can you supply these as flat packs?


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