If so, as adverts go, it's a great start. Got me hooked from the beginning!

Yes, I was thinking of somewhere between an MSL-10 and a Res 9.

Good luck to them, it's nice to see a manufacturer in Austria. Reminded me of my time at the Alt Fabrik in the 1990's...

I wonder who the owners are?

the qx 12" lowmids are indeed quite oldskool, not much has changed physically since those msl10s have been developed.. they do work, just like they did in any previous "version", within reason.

the MHF of those qx tops does differ a lot to conventional 2"/1" comps arrays though.

basically those are multiple cone loaded mini unity/synergy horns, in an asymetrical, arrayable horn, they do work well imho, overall i was not that impressed with those though (edit, not in that configs/circumstances i have heard them, at least..)

the 215 kicks are very similar to msl5s, again, not much has changed significantly in terms of whats achievable within passband/volume/spl etc. ;)

the dh18s are a "custom" take on a mix of many Danley cabs, its basically a TH, quite similar to the th118 but with a `custom` 4ohm nlw9601 and the adapted mouth options of the dts10/thspud.., tbh. i didnt like them much, tuned too high, nowhere near its `specs`, loads of driver noise too imo

the k18 amps do sound clean, no hiss, no rumble, i am not sure about the 3ph tripple powercon input though, its not ideal imo, also theres not a single usefull measurement of those available since they have been launched about 3 years ago.. i highly doubt the informal 4x4kw RMS! at 4ohm figure..

bass*en*mass wrote: basically those are multiple cone loaded mini unity/synergy horns, in an asymetrical, arrayable horn

It is some sort of horizontal line array with a fixed angle with a seamless overlap acting as one source. A synergy horn or the MSLs are totally different (point sources) and have interferences in the overlap area of the individual horns.

Throw can be much larger with such a technology.

No mater which technology you use, the "throw" will be dictated by the SPL capability of the weakest section in the system. In this case it is either the 2x15 section or the 2x12 inch section. So having gazzilion HF drivers is of no particular advantage to me because the rest of the system can not keep up. Maybe in the marketing department it has advantages. 40 HF drivers in on horn, wooow :). I wonder now saturated is the sound coming out of a single 2/3/4 inch throat. Not sure how big is the throat, but that is the thing you can not avoid. It will get saturated very fast with so many drivers.

Throw is a matter of technology. It is about how fast you loose SPL over distance and if you keep a linear response at larger hearing distances. It has nothing to do with SPL capability only.

At all large format line arrays the compression drivers cannot be strong enough and the limit when you bump up against air losses. For a single cabinet you might be correct, but this is likely not the intention of how the speakers are to be used.

Its a bit different at line arrays.

i`ve a/b`d the dh18 in person to our old subs, both nlw9601 loaded, both had similar issues and lowend response, which isnt anywhere near the claimed 28hz f3..

(th118 doesnt go low enough either for my liking tbh. ;))

to my ears the qx top just doesnt sound right, its clean, its loud but theres something i dislike about it compared to the j3-94 for example, which do sound more natural/unifom to my ears at similar spl..

qx mhf is a fixed vert. dispersion, `seamless` hor. arrayable unity `linearray` horn - no control on vert. hf throw by design, other than the asymetric WG, hor. theres passive+active "shading" options.

..its pretty easy imo to make "clic clac techno/goa etc." sound well enough, which is what qxs are often used for, with more complex signals things happen to change quickly, imho. 

my main gripe with the lambda `marketing` is the constant lack of facts/proof/measurements available - if i`d claim to have a unique/superior product i`d try my best to back those claims up with independant tests.. no usefull data came up since those cabs were launched a couple of years back.. although there was money available to cover the dumping price strategy to undercut the usual festival hire rates just to get the cabs/systems out.. ;) 

... With/without preset but always without highpass:  http://www.directupload.net/file/d/4505/u95shjhv_png.htm" rel="nofollow - http://www.directupload.net/file/d/4505/u95shjhv_png.htm

...Burst decay:  http://www.directupload.net/file/d/4505/u95shjhv_png.htm" rel="nofollow - http://www.directupload.net/file/d/4505/u95shjhv_png.htm

In the post it is described, that the measurements were taken outside 2 meters away of the subs, the next surface was 10-12 meters away. Level is calibrated to give 1W on the stack of four (-6dB for a single sub).

And it does play more than electronic music ;)

->  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV8i7dJsfBU&t=70s" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV8i7dJsfBU&t=70s

And no, I don`t work for them or earn any money with LL products. I just heard some of their things and found them very impressive compared to pretty much anything else...

exactly..! 

(that close, specially with larger stacks you would measure partial nearfield rather than true 1/2 space farfield, which adds a boost/gain according to the stacksize/half WL it supports, afaik, for easy comparison the 10m, fixed voltage setup seems a better way)

"1w 1m" - at what impedance of the not available plot? 

no highpass? - that "measurement" is clearly with a hpf and lpf in place.. + propably 1/6 smoothed too

Jo bg wrote: Also states that the sub is in S mode, that from specs trades 2 dB on sensitivty for 2hz Lower extension...

I don`t see this 2db exactly, but the frequency responses look very solid and clean with a nice 30Hz -3db corner frequency.

When you move your mic further you usually get more SPL than in the nearfield, because of directivity... Maybe there is more difference when measured in 10m.

The spectral decay look fine too.

And now with this HOQS paraflex rubbish doing the same. 

i believe the lack of specs / pricing / info is down to their distro model (and marketing) - they seem to really want each deployment to be done properly by their approved partners. i can respect this. 

this is sort of what funktion one have lost over the years, their pool of distributors has become dilated with poor quality. Void seem quite good at this. 

my girlfriend has played on two Lambda rigs over the years and she has nothing but amazing things to say. 

i personally own a pair of CX2A coax wedges, and they are fantastic, easily the best monitors of that style i have heard. i got given them which was quite nice :) 

My impression is that all the festivals that i have seen the LL system are the one supplied by LL them self. I ma not aware of anyone that actually invested in LL system.

I might be wrong.

https://irp.cdn-website.com/5bb0c925/files/uploaded/Lambda+Labs+QX-3+-+Deep+Technical+Research+Summary.pdf" rel="nofollow - https://irp.cdn-website.com/5bb0c925/files/uploaded/Lambda+Labs+QX-3+-+Deep+Technical+Research+Summary.pdf

it looks like these guys do

https://www.properformance.audio/brands" rel="nofollow - https://www.properformance.audio/brands

looks like they did Elysia in Basel

Also walking just a bit off stage felt bizarre , some directivity witchcraft being done expertly.