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Used Powersoft K20 DSP - Real market value

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Topic: Used Powersoft K20 DSP - Real market value
Posted By: levyte357-
Subject: Used Powersoft K20 DSP - Real market value
Date Posted: 13 February 2021 at 9:16pm
We know there are dreamers on FB, other sites, asking upto £3K.

Meanwhile, I have 2x people offering me units for £2200 each.

3x years ago, you could get them used for £2500, was thinking now they are obsoleted by X series, asking price would be lower than £2200?




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Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 13 February 2021 at 10:40pm
Well, X4L has quite a steep price point. So... not really a replacement for K20.

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Posted By: csg
Date Posted: 14 February 2021 at 6:29am
No such thing Ray, if you can do a deal for the price you are happy with then fair enough, but used market equipment values simply don’t exist, this isn’t tescos!....

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Posted By: midas
Date Posted: 14 February 2021 at 11:12am
From what I have seen prices have risen over the last 6 months. Or maybe thats just people expectations have risen.

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Posted By: citizensc
Date Posted: 14 February 2021 at 11:54am
I find the used market so confusing, how can they be going up in value considering how hard it is to use them to make money right now? 


Posted By: midas
Date Posted: 14 February 2021 at 12:24pm
Back on topic. The K20 is advertised new if you know where to look for £3000 and you can probably get a bit off that too.

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Posted By: concept-10
Date Posted: 14 February 2021 at 12:44pm
[QUOTE=citizensc]I find the used market so confusing, how can they be going up in value considering how hard it is to use them to make money right now? [/QUOTE

Talking to people I know who have sold up because of the situation it's an ego thing, they don't want to appear to be desperate so are pricing things like the market is normal, a friend who didn't care what others thought sold his whole very high end kit for what he could get, kep the kids fed  got a regular job and moved on with life, each to their own.


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Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 15 February 2021 at 11:59am
Originally posted by csg csg wrote:

No such thing Ray, if you can do a deal for the price you are happy with then fair enough, but used market equipment values simply don’t exist, this isn’t tescos!....

ClapLOL

After a bit of a search, have found I can source used/new K20s, quite easily.

Anyone looking for one, for their living room or shed, let me know.

Embarrassed


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Posted By: Exwook
Date Posted: 02 March 2022 at 12:11am
Are you still able to source k20s? Trying to find one at the moment… Shocked


Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 02 March 2022 at 9:54am
Originally posted by Exwook Exwook wrote:

Are you still able to source k20s? Trying to find one at the moment… Shocked


Mate in North London has K20 DSP, he is asking approx £2700.

After hearing X4L a few times, have decided if I ever buy a Powersoft, would be one of those.

Meanwhile I have been quietly acquiring QSC PL380s, intended for use with with 2x 4 ohm drivers per channel. Embarrassed




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Posted By: Exwook
Date Posted: 02 March 2022 at 10:56am
Any chance he will budge on that? Ahah wish I had bought amps during lockdown the prices have gone through the roof!


Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 02 March 2022 at 11:22am
Originally posted by Exwook Exwook wrote:

Any chance he will budge on that? Ahah wish I had bought amps during lockdown the prices have gone through the roof!


Don't think so, he doesn't need to.

Powersoft used K20 pricing, has been quite illogical, for approx 12x months now.


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Posted By: Exwook
Date Posted: 02 March 2022 at 11:39am
Yea someone just quoted me 3.5 for one on Facebook!


Posted By: csg
Date Posted: 02 March 2022 at 11:45am
A lot of the problem at the moment is supply on new stock. At the moment we are waiting 4 months on delivery of most Powersoft touring product, installation product is usually quicker as they are prioritizing those lines for the currently very busy installation market.

So, long lead times are bolstering used prices as in many cases you simply can not buy new stock immediately or even in the near term and therefore people are choosing to sit on stock they would normally replace with new for risk of running out of stock on what is going to be a very busy year for live events 
K20 as far as i am aware is more or less out of active production now, it is very much a legacy product that does not integrate from a network/control/dsp/signal point of view with the rest of the product line. If they are making any new units it will just be from the remaining parts.

Its very much a sellers market.

That said, if anyone wants any used X8’s I currently have a few available….


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Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 02 March 2022 at 12:02pm
Originally posted by csg csg wrote:

That said, if anyone wants any used X8’s I currently have a few available….



PM Asking price, please mate.


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Posted By: wires
Date Posted: 02 March 2022 at 8:04pm
I feel I’ve just sold 2 of my k20dsps a little cheap going on here… @£2400 each.


Posted By: JBK
Date Posted: 03 March 2022 at 7:58am
csg is spot on.
Powersoft have manufacturing issues on current amp models because of component crisis (from what I've been told ...) , they can not deliver to distributors instantly, there is a huge waiting time.
The K series is discontinued.
Prices of K series went down because people started moving to the new ones. Now that the new ones can't be sourced easily, people either wait or buy 2nd hand K series, that make the price rise again.


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Posted By: AdriWL
Date Posted: 30 April 2022 at 3:49pm
Mate, still these k20 available at that price? I'm searching for one...


Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 01 May 2022 at 10:56am
Originally posted by AdriWL AdriWL wrote:

Mate, still these k20 available at that price? I'm searching for one...

Nope, recently seen used K20 dsps going for £2700.



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