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Topic: why did QSC discontinue PL 340 and PL 325 ?
Posted By: Line Array
Subject: why did QSC discontinue PL 340 and PL 325 ?
Date Posted: 10 April 2022 at 11:46am
was it simply to avoid confusion because 340 and 325 were class H and 380 class D ?

but then they're doing a poor job because the rejects still list both class H and class D on the PL 380 page.

basically was there something wrong with them or did they simply decide they didn't need them in the lineup ?

because distortion specs at moderate power ( like for home use ) look really impressive but if they were discontinued to to a defect then picking them up used doesn't seem like a great idea ...


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Posted By: smitske96
Date Posted: 10 April 2022 at 12:00pm
Just getting old and they brought out some new amps that could replace the 325 and 340.


Posted By: Dorian Gray
Date Posted: 10 April 2022 at 2:45pm
GXD 8  or PL380 should be replacement, 

>basically was there something wrong with them or....

there is no market anymore for PL340  PL325 mass production

todays costumer want buy Class D


Posted By: Line Array
Date Posted: 11 April 2022 at 6:58am
buying a linear ( class AB / H ) amp new is pretty dumb ...

but they are a good value on the used market because everybody is selling and nobody is buying ...

the opposite for class D ...

there isn't a single QSC PL380 on sale on Ebay for example ... 

nobody wants to sell a light, efficient and reliable amp ...



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Posted By: Earplug
Date Posted: 11 April 2022 at 10:44am
Originally posted by Line Array Line Array wrote:

buying a linear ( class AB / H ) amp new is pretty dumb ...

but they are a good value on the used market because everybody is selling and nobody is buying ...

the opposite for class D ...

there isn't a single QSC PL380 on sale on Ebay for example ...

nobody wants to sell a light, efficient and reliable amp ...




Your 2 statements contradict each other. Either "everyone" is selling their old amps, or they're not. I'd say that there aren't any PL380's around for sale, because no one that has them wants to sell!  Smile

Try buy something reliable like an old QSC, or Crest and you'll have to search - and pay a fair amount. They definitely keep their value - unlike the plethora of Class D you can find these days - most of which will never last as long as a decent old Class G or H. I would never buy a 2nd hand Class D if I didn't know it's history, or previous owner very well. Whereas give me an old 7001/8001, no problem!





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Posted By: Line Array
Date Posted: 11 April 2022 at 10:50am
i wouldn't buy a used class D either simply because they keep improving.

but linear amps have peaked about 20 years ago already so buying new doesn't make a lot of sense.


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Posted By: Earplug
Date Posted: 11 April 2022 at 7:04pm
Originally posted by Line Array Line Array wrote:

i wouldn't buy a used class D either simply because they keep improving.

but linear amps have peaked about 20 years ago already so buying new doesn't make a lot of sense.



Aye. Last new amp I bought was a bit of a shot in the dark - but came recommended from a friend that saw them in France.


Here:-

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Or:-





Got to love the name!   LOL LOL LOL


AND - they have proven to be solid & reliable. What more could you want?






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Posted By: Line Array
Date Posted: 11 April 2022 at 9:01pm
to me Chinese company products are never "new" since they never come with the kind of warranty, support or return policy that new products come with.

they cost the same as used products because you get a cat in a box same as with used products.

doesn't mean it is a bad deal, just like used can be a great deal.

but when you buy used you save something from a landfill whereas when you buy Chinese you are contributing to pollution and resource depletion.

buying used is basically recycling.  should be considered honorable like adopting kids or pets from a shelter.

not that there is something wrong with supporting people in China but if you're going to use resources to build something it should be built to last not go into landfill 2 weeks later.

frankly there should be minimum warranty lengths mandated by government and refusal to honor the warranty punished by death via a drone strike.

we will get there too.  in Soviet Union things lasted FOREVER ( literally ! nothing was EVER replaced ).

if you can't build something that lasts you should let somebody else do it.


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Posted By: Lucasdude
Date Posted: 11 April 2022 at 9:19pm
Mandate warranty, yes. Drone strikes, really every case need to be judged on its own merits.


Posted By: partya
Date Posted: 12 April 2022 at 4:41am
Originally posted by Line Array Line Array wrote:


we will get there too.  in Soviet Union things lasted FOREVER ( literally ! nothing was EVER replaced ).

if you can't build something that lasts you should let somebody else do it.

I don't think Vladimir is going to last much longer, one way or another LOL


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Posted By: Line Array
Date Posted: 12 April 2022 at 6:56am
Vlad didn't invent sustainability.

sustainability means you never get to replace what you have.

if you are even allowed to have anything in the first place.


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Posted By: Earplug
Date Posted: 12 April 2022 at 9:04am
"sustainability means you never get to replace what you have."


Sustainability & saving precious resourses is an interesting subject - and to me means sticking with my 30+ year old amps, that I know do the job, are still reliable and are easy to maintain/fix when necessary.

And I just find the idea of replacing "stuff" that still works fine for the latest shiny shite a bit stupid and really wasteful. Like the people that continually buy new clothes to keep up with the fashion trends, maybe wear something once or twice and then toss it. Totally absurd!   Dead






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Posted By: Dorian Gray
Date Posted: 12 April 2022 at 11:32am
Come on, very old  technology from the past


Today 2x 3KW  TRUE RMS @ 4 Ohm Class D easy  if the engineer have the skills

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Posted By: fat_brstd
Date Posted: 12 April 2022 at 12:14pm
The PL325/PL340 are a 14 year old model, they were discontinued a couple years ago after they had served their 10 year design lifetime. The only reason they kept on making the PL380 is that people still buy it because its a very good amp.

QSC moved onto the CXD/PLD series which are not really suitable for touring use and reliability on the first lot was pretty average. Now they have moved on the CX-Q range which are much better but that's all Q-Sys installation range. TBH QSC don't really make a proper pro touring amplifier range any more which is proper shame.

I love my PL amps, got a rack full of them and they are still my favourite sounding amps out of everything I have ever tried (special mention to CX range as well)

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Posted By: Line Array
Date Posted: 12 April 2022 at 9:49pm
i understand the move from class H to class D but the PLX 2 range isn't discontinued ...

Crown and Dynacord both still sell class H amps as well ...

it's not that QSC discontinued class H amps - they discontinued the ones from PL series specifically ...

well i guess it doesn't matter why they did it.  i was just wondering if there were known issues with those amps i guess not.


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Posted By: Elliot Thompson
Date Posted: 13 April 2022 at 12:43am
QSC's market is now focused heavily on Powered Speakers. This was evident in 2018 when their Powered Loudspeakers were generating more sales than their stand-alone amplifiers. 

Best Regards, 


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Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 13 April 2022 at 2:41pm
Originally posted by Line Array Line Array wrote:


the opposite for class D ...

there isn't a single QSC PL380 on sale on Ebay for example ... 

nobody wants to sell a light, efficient and reliable amp ...


I'm selling 2x PL380s


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