12" sub driver
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Topic: 12" sub driver
Posted By: FOO
Subject: 12" sub driver
Date Posted: 18 December 2022 at 2:24pm
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Looking into making some 12" ported subs and I want to use premium drivers for really sweet SQ without sacrificing SPL and LF response. I know it's impossible to have it all, but premium drivers should be more capable than cheaper stuff. Amp power is plenty and budget is wide open. Anyone got some good suggestions? I am thinking BMS 12N804.
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Posted By: Timebomb
Date Posted: 18 December 2022 at 4:20pm
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BMS 12s305 is nice, the carbon fibre cone and 3" coil keeps mms low so its a pretty fast driver considering how much overhang there is, can play a wide bandwidth. The celestion FTR12 4080DL is another nice one, tight dynamic lows with good excursion. Faital 12HP1060 and 12RS1066 are also good if you want a neo, the 1066 is similar to the celestion but a bit warmer and softer sounding, the 1060 is tuned a bit higher and is harder sounding. ------------- James Secker facebook.com/soundgearuk James@soundgear.co.uk www.soundgear.co.uk |
Posted By: FOO
Date Posted: 18 December 2022 at 5:35pm
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Thanks 👍 you would choose BMS 12s305 over 12n805? I have good experience with Beyma 12LX60 v2, but it's a old driver today. I would think there is better drivers out there. But it can take a beatin'. A bit hard sounding, but it's tough!
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Posted By: luton_soundman
Date Posted: 18 December 2022 at 6:25pm
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I have some cabs loaded with jbl 2206 that i'll be using on bass but have been seriously thinking of trying the b&c tbx 100 ------------- Sound Hire/Sales new/used equipment. |
Posted By: RoadRunnersDust
Date Posted: 18 December 2022 at 9:20pm
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The JBL 2206 clone used in THAT box from Thomann seem to be quite well respected... it really depends what you're expecting the output to be though as at 12" and simple BR you're going to realistically be getting "Bass" not "Sub" ------------- www.guildfordcablecompany.co.uk" rel="nofollow - www.guildfordcablecompany.co.uk |
Posted By: cookie-dj
Date Posted: 20 December 2022 at 12:07am
I’m using PD123.C01 in my Tham12’s. It was the replacement for the PD.12SB30. I think it has now been replaced again by the newly released PD123.C001  .It’s a great driver in this application anyway! ------------- You can't polish a turd! |
Posted By: Meat Substitute
Date Posted: 20 December 2022 at 12:58pm
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I built this for the Ciare 12.00SW many years ago (bottom box). It was pretty good. Not very efficient or refined but I was quite happy with it. 38Hz, 60l or thereabouts.  |
Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 20 December 2022 at 3:38pm
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That Ciare driver is almost impossible to get these days. ------------- Marjan Milosevic MM-Acoustics www.mm-acoustics.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/MM-Acoustics/608901282527713 |
Posted By: smitske96
Date Posted: 20 December 2022 at 3:45pm
| 12BG100? 12BG76 looks also nice. |
Posted By: Timebomb
Date Posted: 20 December 2022 at 5:21pm
Ive not tested the 12n805 so i cant say, i tried the 12s305 against the 12lx60v2 and the bms was a lot dryer and more articulate, the beyma was quite warm and round in comparison. ------------- James Secker facebook.com/soundgearuk James@soundgear.co.uk www.soundgear.co.uk |
FOO wrote:Posted By: FOO
Date Posted: 20 December 2022 at 6:16pm
First hit on Google https://en.toutlehautparleur.com/haut-parleur-ciare-12-00sw-8-ohm-12-inch.html" rel="nofollow - https://en.toutlehautparleur.com/haut-parleur-ciare-12-00sw-8-ohm-12-inch.html
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Posted By: RoadRunnersDust
Date Posted: 20 December 2022 at 6:50pm
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Didn’t they change the spec on the 12.00SW a few years back that made it noticeably different? ------------- www.guildfordcablecompany.co.uk" rel="nofollow - www.guildfordcablecompany.co.uk |
Posted By: Meat Substitute
Date Posted: 21 December 2022 at 7:38am
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I think the spec change affected the total height of the driver. Don't think it was a parameter change maybe a new frame. I think the issue it caused was the newer drivers wouldn't pass through the doors of MkI punishers.
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Posted By: APC321
Date Posted: 21 December 2022 at 7:33pm
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Some years ago I used to own a pair of "Mega of London" 4 x 12" subs. They were loaded with Beyma L12/P300 long-coil rubber surround drivers. I was very happy with the performance of the drivers (each 8 Ohm) in these boxes, so long as two amplifier channels (4 Ohm each channel) were used to drive each box. (I did first try powering all four drivers in each box off one amp channel - 2 Ohm load, running though about 10m of 2.5mm sq. speaker cable and it really showed why you should not do this. Really undefined, sloppy bass sound. Last time I ever tried using a 2 Ohm load). Here is a photo of one of the boxes. (Click on the photo to view full size, not sure why just showing small icon). https://ibb.co/Tr1XCXB" rel="nofollow - https://ibb.co/Tr1XCXB |
Posted By: RoadRunnersDust
Date Posted: 21 December 2022 at 7:38pm
That was your problem, not the 2R load 😂 ------------- www.guildfordcablecompany.co.uk" rel="nofollow - www.guildfordcablecompany.co.uk |
Posted By: Robbo
Date Posted: 21 December 2022 at 8:12pm
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Mega never used any Beyma bass drivers--The original drivers in those cabs would have been ATC or Mega badged Volt drivers. All of the Mega cabinets that were around the Midlands in the seventies and early eighties would have come from our hire stock or from club installs that we had carried out and those cabinets would have definitely come from one of our two club installs that used that type of cabinet so they were quite a rare box back then. |
Posted By: munkey
Date Posted: 22 December 2022 at 3:52pm
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I have two of these boxes in my lockup!!! -------------  the midtops!
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