QSS V RC1
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Topic: QSS V RC1
Posted By: cardiffdon
Subject: QSS V RC1
Date Posted: 15 April 2023 at 4:13pm
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Event held yesterday in Bristol.. any more info on what happened.
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Posted By: Sypa
Date Posted: 17 April 2023 at 1:30pm
Posted By: KWB75
Date Posted: 17 April 2023 at 1:56pm
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I wasn’t there but it sounds like it went exactly as expected…
RC1 - brutal at all frequencies. QSS - much more balanced, better selection.
Horses for courses, there’s clearly a large following of RC1 that enjoy that savage bass - I’ve got a lot of respect for what Jon has created, it’s very effective for what he does.
Personally, I prefer the QSS approach - proper sub, and just a more pleasurable listening experience.
Everyone assumes this was going to be a full-on bass war, which is not really how it played out.
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Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 17 April 2023 at 4:23pm
I heard Dubstep was on music list, which immediately doused my interest.
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Posted By: cardiffdon
Date Posted: 17 April 2023 at 6:04pm
Posted By: Sypa
Date Posted: 17 April 2023 at 8:47pm
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So QSS subs are just the 18 sound manifold plan ? And don't tell me different bracing or something similarly non important is a "modification" .
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Posted By: RiddimKid
Date Posted: 17 April 2023 at 9:34pm
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Thought there would be a lot more hype and chat about this event but I don't see much about it.
Any reviews and comments I've seen have been very nice and everybody is calling the event a draw with both systems coming out on top 
Thought it was going to be an all out sound system clash
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Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 17 April 2023 at 9:39pm
RiddimKid wrote:
Thought there would be a lot more hype and chat about this event but I don't see much about it.
Any reviews and comments I've seen have been very nice and everybody is calling the event a draw with both systems coming out on top 
Thought it was going to be an all out sound system clash |
Think its only Reggae guys, who know what a real sound clash is.
Sound clash not about who can make the most noise, and zero entertainment.
It's about the music selection, system heavy and clean, mic man, which crew had best vibes, most entertaining.
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Posted By: Maze
Date Posted: 18 April 2023 at 1:47am
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Fatha Chalky did a nice breakdown of the night...
https://www.facebook.com/fatha.chalky/videos/5937759606277211" rel="nofollow - https://www.facebook.com/fatha.chalky/videos/5937759606277211
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Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 18 April 2023 at 1:55pm
UPDATE:
Just been told by very knowledgeable engineer who was at the gig, when Qualitex first started pre gig warm up, ceiling above the bar, started shaking and was in danger of collapse, and venue owner instructed both sounds to unplug 2x subs.
Apparently Qualitex did comply, and RC1 did not.
Which means RC1 system was running the night with a pair of subs more than Qualitex, even though the feedback was, Qualitex sub, was rounder and deeper.
To be honest, many of us already expected this, after hearing RC1 previously, so I would expect any more discussion of sub in this topic, to be of little consequence.
What I think would have been of more interest, is if both systems were playing Roots Reggae and Dub only, which would further identify, which system was superior, between 30hz-18khz, if they were both playing, the same number of subs, that is. 
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Posted By: cardiffdon
Date Posted: 18 April 2023 at 5:43pm
Posted By: heineken
Date Posted: 18 April 2023 at 6:10pm
My thoughts on the night, for anyone that cares;
Mid tops- RC1's sound amazing, absolutely loved them, like a massive hifi. QSS' were fine and definitely more 'soundsystem' style (unbalanced?) but clear enough and not harsh but... RC1s were just lush.
Bass- Much preferred QSS. I was surprised and a bit disappointed by RC1 with how low they didn't play and how distorted it sounded. Unless I was consistently unlucky with where I was standing, there were notes completely missing off the low end. My guess is John raised his high pass in order to win on SPL, but shit loads of distorted 60Hz+ was not it imo. I like a rough bass so I can see the appeal and see why people rate their bass (if that's how they normally sound?) but I want to hear the root notes as well as the 2nd harmonic. QSS was felt in the stomach, RC1 was felt in the nose and throat.
Music- If you like DnB, then RC1 will have won for you, basically. From what I could see, RC1 had the crowd until 12/1am or so when Footsie n others came on for QSS, that seemed like a turning point and the crowd were more on the side of QSS following that.
Bonus thoughts- It was nice to hear different styles of music played on both sounds as dub/roots doesn't always have the best production imo. It was good hear the systems tested away from what they we're designed for.
For the last hour or so (maybe longer? Didn't check) John was stood arms crossed and looking pretty miserable tbh, whereas Kutty was dancing and joking around.
RC1's selecta/mic man gave the win to QSS, think that says a lot.
Seem to remember the Sinai vs RC1 thread had a decent amount of people singing RC1's praises, there's none of that now.
Overall QSS won for me but it wasn't a slaughter, but it wasn't even that sort of a night anyway.
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Posted By: paulus
Date Posted: 19 April 2023 at 9:02am
kutty stated on line he un plugged 2 subs as one had a fault so unplugged a pair to keep things balance ie no odd numbers , mate also attended and said same Kutty was super low and bass going right though the building , RC1 was just brutul esp in front of the cabs but not as low, more groyly bass if that makes sense , mate did say tho RC1 bin near the end were moving some serious air much fun well done both systems 
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Posted By: snowflake
Date Posted: 19 April 2023 at 10:48am
Sypa wrote:
So QSS subs are just the 18 sound manifold plan ? And don't tell me different bracing or something similarly non important is a "modification" . |
pictures I can find of qualitex subs don't look quite like 18sound plans. qss subs have ports that are full width of cabinet and the manifold is slightly tapered.
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Posted By: wires
Date Posted: 19 April 2023 at 12:09pm
heineken wrote:
Mid tops- RC1's sound amazing, absolutely loved them, like a massive hifi. QSS' were fine and definitely more 'soundsystem' style (unbalanced?) but clear enough and not harsh but... RC1s were just lush. |
This just goes to show how subjective audio is; as the times I have heard RC1 its certainly not what I would consider ‘hifi’ in the slightest.
That’s not knocking them either, as clearly they are going for a loud and aggressive system over detailed and clarity.
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Posted By: Sypa
Date Posted: 19 April 2023 at 1:56pm
There are a few versions on the site , one is with full port .
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Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 19 April 2023 at 2:00pm
Sypa wrote:
So QSS subs are just the 18 sound manifold plan ? And don't tell me different bracing or something similarly non important is a "modification" . |
Not sure what answer you are expecting from this question.
Surely only QSS will know what design his cabs are, and no one can really tell from the outside !?
Why not ask QSS, yourself !?
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Posted By: luton_soundman
Date Posted: 19 April 2023 at 2:39pm
Ive read and heard loads of contradicting accounts on how both sounded. More uneeded proof that everyone has different ears and if you really wana know how someone sounds you have to go and hear it for yourself
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Posted By: snowflake
Date Posted: 19 April 2023 at 2:50pm
Sypa wrote:
There are a few versions on the site , one is with full port .
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yes, only one on the 18sound site has full width ports. But it doesn't have a tapered manifold in the middle with non-parallel baffles.
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Posted By: KWB75
Date Posted: 19 April 2023 at 7:22pm
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I’m amazed at the difference in amplification on both systems - RC1 needs so much juice, wouldn’t fancy being part of the RC1 crew with that many Crest amps, manstyle!
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Posted By: Lucasdude
Date Posted: 19 April 2023 at 7:34pm
Anyone have pics from the events? Multiple Crest amps always gets my juices flowing!
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Posted By: cardiffdon
Date Posted: 19 April 2023 at 7:45pm
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I seen the amps RC1 use and the thickness of the cable..you need a mobile power station..any photos of the session..
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Posted By: Sypa
Date Posted: 20 April 2023 at 11:26am
levyte357- wrote:
Sypa wrote:
So QSS subs are just the 18 sound manifold plan ? And don't tell me different bracing or something similarly non important is a "modification" . |
Not sure what answer you are expecting from this question.
Surely only QSS will know what design his cabs are, and no one can really tell from the outside !?
Why not ask QSS, yourself !?
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Its just classic speculation calm down 
Snowflake indeed it seems like the 18 inch version is a play between the 18 inch version and the 21 . While the 21 version has those 2 ports with wood in the middle and seems its tapered just like on the plans.
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Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 20 April 2023 at 11:35am
Sypa wrote:
Its just classic speculation calm down  |
On reflection, yes, my response was a bit tense.. 
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Posted By: RiddimKid
Date Posted: 20 April 2023 at 3:27pm
Posted By: cardiffdon
Date Posted: 20 April 2023 at 7:58pm
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Thank you.. i can see father chalky and young lion if i am not mistaken..
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