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Topic: Phase Plugs
Posted By: Augusts
Subject: Phase Plugs
Date Posted: 14 December 2023 at 7:20pm
Plain and simple, is there a paper I could read to understand them better? Alot of companies use them, My goal ir good horizontal dispersion up tp 3-4kHz from an 8" or 10". What is out there open ,I have read.



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Posted By: teeth
Date Posted: 14 December 2023 at 9:04pm
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Posted By: fudge22
Date Posted: 14 December 2023 at 11:21pm

Most of the papers tend to concern compression driver phase plug design, but here are a few.

 

An Investigation of the Air Chamber of Horn Type Loudspeakers by Bob H. Smith.

Phase Plug Modelling and Analysis: Radial vs. circumferential Types by Clifford A. Henricksen.

There are a number of papers by M. Dodd and J. Oclee-Brown including.

Loudspeaker Compression-Driver Phase-Plug Design.

New Methodology for the Acoustic Design of Compression Driver Phase Plugs with Concentric Annular Channels.

 

Is there any reason why you need to use a 10” drive unit up to 4KHz? It is probably not the best solution. Plus the modern trend is for horn loaded compression drivers to be used to increasingly low frequencies.



Posted By: Augusts
Date Posted: 15 December 2023 at 6:34am
Originally posted by fudge22 fudge22 wrote:

 

Is there any reason why you need to use a 10” drive unit up to 4KHz? It is probably not the best solution. Plus the modern trend is for horn loaded compression drivers to be used to increasingly low frequencies.



I would like a cone driver to play 2kHz because in my experience a CD is really harsh sounding around this frequency.

Thank you for the books!


Posted By: fudge22
Date Posted: 15 December 2023 at 8:34pm

JBL used to do a device called CMCD, which stood for cone mid-range compression driver. It might be worth searching for the term as JBL were pretty good at releasing tech documents.

Which cone based systems are you comparing with which compression driver based systems, that leads you to conclude that compression drivers are harsh at 2KHz? With a well designed system they shouldn’t be.

Getting a 10” horn loaded drive unit to have a smooth unprocessed response above 1KHz is tricky. If the point of the exercise is a reduced output at 2KHz they should fit the bill.

All loudspeaker drive units have an upper roll off point, sometimes referred to as the mass break point (because the upper limit is mainly due to the coil/cone mass). Above that frequency the power available efficiency starts to drop off.

The on-axis sensitivity can remain flat above that point, because the directivity increases, so the power is radiated into a smaller volume. A 10” drive unit will have a directivity index of about 12dB at 1.5KHz. That is, the sound level will be 12dB higher on axis than if the acoustic power was radiated omni-directionally. If the on-axis SPL is still flat at that frequency it is actually putting out less than 0.1 of the power compared to lower frequencies.

If you manage to make a horn with constant directivity, you will lose the extended response, which comes from increasing directivity, and it will require additional eq to regain the flat response. This is why high frequency boost is needed on compression drivers fitted to constant directivity horns, because they have a falling power response.

With 1” compression drivers the hf roll off happens at around 4KHz, with 2” compression drivers it is about 2.5KHz. There is a lot more variation in cone design, but a 10” driver could start to roll off well below 1KHz. There maybe outliers that perform differently, but chances are such a device will have been designed for a specific purpose.

With a horn, there is also a volume of air between the diaphragm and horn throat. This air has a compliance which at low frequencies behaves like an incompressible fluid, so all the air displaced by the diaphragm passes into the throat of the horn. At high frequencies the mechanical reactance of this air space becomes sufficiently low (i.e., the air becomes compressible) so that all the air displaced by the diaphragm does not pass into the throat of the horn. As the compliance tends to zero the roll off tends to 6dB/octave (determined by mass alone). By careful choice of compliance, the space can be caused to resonate with mmd (moving mass) which extends the response upwards, but the roll off then tends to 12dB/octave.

A final nail in the coffin, is that at higher frequencies the cone doesn’t move as a single, solid diaphragm. Parts of the cone can be moving forwards at the same time as other parts are moving backwards. This does not help maintain a smooth response.

However, to quote Beranek:

It has been remarked that if one selects his own components, builds his own enclosure, and is convinced he has made a wise choice of design, then his own loudspeaker sounds better to him than does anyone else's loudspeaker. In this case, the frequency response of the loudspeaker seems to play only a minor part in forming a person's opinion.



Posted By: Augusts
Date Posted: 15 December 2023 at 9:19pm
I read your post being maximally intrigued, this was spot on. Found the JBL tech notes. I definetely have a lot of illusions, talking is the best way to dissolve them. It was probably a cd crossed too low and and it was a BMS 6” midrange that I pushed upwards and liked they way it sounded on two kHz. My goal is to not to have to cut the 2kHz region or attenuate but to have maximum definition with minimum distortion. I build my own stuff and compare my previous work with the next and also with what others are building but not everyone shares their secrets, so in a way, I have to reinvent the bicycle. Thus im starting to have my signature sound like you said. But 2kHz is a problem for me, I nees to fix it. I would love to talk to you in person. 


Posted By: VECTORDJ
Date Posted: 15 December 2023 at 11:37pm
The AES had/has a Book that details the first Turbo Sound Cabs....It has drawings of Their Plugs....The same Book also has Stories about Bose and Touring Sound in Africa.....Interesting Book.


Posted By: Augusts
Date Posted: 16 December 2023 at 4:29am
Thank you, I like learning by doing, it will be very interesting to look along the Turbo plugs because we know how do they look and others have probably heard them, I have not, but have no doubt that they sound great, I have seen a lot of detailed pics of them though. As I understand the drivers are physically time aligned too?


Posted By: Lucasdude
Date Posted: 16 December 2023 at 9:56am
 I had some Volt 10" drivers with metal dust caps mounted on their own large compression horns (about 2 feet wide) in the mid 90s. I had them crossed over @3.5k, and although I couldn't measure much back then they seems to be pretty even.


Posted By: fudge22
Date Posted: 16 December 2023 at 9:38pm

Smaller drive units maintain a wider dispersion pattern (lower directivity) up to a higher frequency, so with a flat on axis spl response the power response is maintained up to a higher frequency. A 6” cone will integrate much better with a 1” compression driver than will a 12” or 15” cone. I have some small cabinets that use the BMS 8” coax.

If I remember correctly it was JBL that started the trend with aluminium dust caps. The two reasons I’ve heard for their use was to help cool the voice coil and to improve the high frequencies. The latter is more likely (unless there was a typo when someone put in the order for compression driver diaphragms and the had a stack going spare). Depending on who you talk to, the resultant boost in hf made the overall sound either better or worse.

When you say that the 10” volts were mounted on a large compression horn, how much smaller was the throat than the cone area? I used to see a lot of midrange cabinets where the cone was just mounted at the back of a flare. Apart from altering the directivity at lower frequencies the on-axis response would be similar to the speaker mounted on a baffle. Also, at higher frequencies, where the wavelength is small, compared to the flare, it is possible that the flare has no effect on the sound at all.



Posted By: Augusts
Date Posted: 16 December 2023 at 10:29pm
I am soon going to make a horn for an 8" driver. I have it ready on akabak and waiting for the cnc guys to cut the negative from mdf. The sim shows promising response up to 4kHz at 30+30 degrees. It will probably be worse than the sim and I am ready to cross the cone over at 800Hz, but I want to see how is it in reality. I will post if something good comes out. maybe a phase plug is a good idea. I have designed the horn so that the entry is at the diameter that the cone is (without surround)


Posted By: Lucasdude
Date Posted: 17 December 2023 at 10:33am
Fudge, from memory the horn had a dome a little bigger than the dust cap mounted just in front of it, with the venting between that and the flare. It was very close to the cap, as I remember I actually had to return them to volt because they touched when I crossed them over @250hz. Volt said that frequency should have been OK for the combo, so they altered the distance between the dust cap and dome. Not exactly very scientific, but they worked fine after that!


Posted By: Line Array
Date Posted: 20 March 2025 at 3:09am
Originally posted by Augusts Augusts wrote:

My goal ir good horizontal dispersion up tp 3-4kHz from an 8" or 10".

you could just use a BMS compression midrange - those are optimized exactly to go to 3-4 khz using a 1.4" to 2" throat horn.

at the low end they will go down to about 800 hz easily at which point you can cross over to a 10" midrange without any phase plugs and still have wide dispersion.

yes you just made things more expensive but you gotta pay to play right ?

and in any case i don't think taking a 10" to 4 khz is realistic.  JBL uses phase plugs on their 8" CMCD drivers but only takes them to about 2 khz.



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