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mogale consideration on super scoop

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Topic: mogale consideration on super scoop
Posted By: _Natty_
Subject: mogale consideration on super scoop
Date Posted: 02 May 2024 at 2:43pm
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it is already discussed here?


Guillaume’s says. Can you make him talk about his super scooper Mogale 18 inch? And I said, what do you want him to say about it? And he said, the idea in history behind it.

And I said, OK, well, that’s going back to my old DIY days.

OK, when is that from?

So that was this was one of the earlier models that you that you designed and built. Yeah. Yeah. Are you aware of my speaker plans history. Oh, my God. Oh, you haven’t learned to speak of plans, just like the greatest forum in the whole universe. Oh, OK.

Well, no, it’s a DIY community and I started it in 2003, I think.

OK, so just just after I started avoid acoustics, which are.

Yeah, that’s a conflict of interest. But on one hand you come of trying to sell speakers for quite a bit of money and say that the best say this is proprietary information.

Yeah, yeah.

But I mean, a lot of that was the thing, you know, I helped and I still help out. You know, if people ask me questions, I’m now for it. I’m not like most designers that just hide it. Everything to them is a secret because, you know, you’re arming other people. And I really don’t kind of mind. It’s we you know, we’re all in this together.

So speak of plans. Yeah. Like I say, it’s the best kind of forum ever. So 2003 that started and yeah. That was yeah.

It was good.

And it still is good really, because it has people who come on and you know, you’re really encouraged to come up with your own designs and use base box pro or when, when, when ESD or nonresponse, things like that and just come up with your own thing.

You know, we really, really against copying and people coming on and kind of what and plans the things it’s like now just work out for yourself, for yourself. So I’m glad the forum is kept that and still is still keeps going that way. So yeah, I will talk about the super scoop. I’m not avoiding it.

So I started the forum because it really is a UK kind of answer to the US stuff that was going on. And that was pro sound news, was it. I think the forum there or live. Yeah.

Somewhere might have even been called Pro and live. Back then there was another one. There was the high efficiency speaker forum and it was just people like me and Bill.

What is this, the one that I like? I had Bill for Fritz IEMs. I don’t know.

I’m sorry, but crap memory. I remember Tom Dowling was on it as well, and there were a few when Barnham and there was, you know, Freddy and Jake, there was quite a few of us. And yeah, we kind of really started that whole DIY movement. This was this was 98, 99. We were on these forums. You know, a lot of it was on kind of old tripod kind of forum sites and just really, really Windows 95.

I think my machine was Batman, but it kind of worked.

And we started talking and yeah, we it was brilliant.

So I really wanted to they were all us sites and I really wanted to kind of the same thing, but but more kind of UK based and more European based. So that’s why I started Speaker plans and then it just.

I actually the more famous one with the 1850 hon, and I’m sure I did that before I started with acoustics, and I think Super Scooper is while the super scooper came out before voit acoustics as well. So they would have been about to phase in 2001. Yeah, I just wanted to do some designs that people could use for like free parties and just just for fun, really, and make a bit of a difference.

It was nothing really too serious. Yeah. I just that’s why I did it. It’s yeah.

It’s kind of in a way come back to bite me because yeah, I am in direct conflict, you know, it’s a conflict of interest trying to sell speakers and also having plans out there that stop people from buying.

But but to be honest, the people that are going to DIY built by and build are never going to buy. So you’ve not really lost a customer. And I think what I have done is I do get quite a bit of respect by people saying, wow, you know, you’re one of the only designers that will actually talk to people and actually will help and come back with a reply. And I think, you know, that that puts me in a bit of a stand on other people, really, because I do that to be a super scooper was just for dub and reggae.

Sound systems are used 1850 Mach one driver. And yeah, you need quite a few of them because it was it was a hyperbolic flare. So you need quite a few to build up quite a bit MAPP really. And yeah.

Well then we released a driver void release, a driver called the VAT 1000, which actually worked really, really well in it. And I had designed the super scoop before the driver came out. So I didn’t that was a pure fluke that we came out of a driver that just seemed to be the one that worked the best.

Eneko But but yeah. So there’s a mod. There’s a small mod you can do that not many people know about or anyone, and that is with some drivers. And you’re going to have to send this because, you know, I’m out of the loop with DIY, to be honest, bezoar 20 years ago now. So I don’t really know that there’s people that are still doing DIY every day and they’re in a much better position to advise what’s good people come to you and go, what’s the best DIY thing?

I might just go to a forum because you know that they really are aware of what’s happening and right at the forefront of it all.

And I’m not because I’m concentrating on the commercial side. So I forgot what I was going with that one.

But now the mind is completely different from other modes.

Yeah, the mods and the rockers and everything else.

So yeah, the front chamber is a bit too big. It’s a bit too big.

If you can put two bits of angled woods would at the if you can from the front the cabinet, you take the driver at the top, you need to block off in the rear chamber behind the driver. If you block off the two top left and right chambers, then it actually it works better with certain drivers to have a lot smaller front chamber. So, yeah, that one about a year after I designed it, but I never kind of put the mods, but I think a few people had worked it out well.

But yeah, it’s OK.

I really wanted something there. And also it was kind of slightly ego kind of thing as well. It’s nice to have a Ben that you’ve designed, you know, a lot of, you know, DIY and design sound systems and sound systems are, you know, around the world. And it’s just nice. The well one that they’re doing and given so much with the performance isn’t to just on an egotistical side. It’s just really nice to be part of that.

And, you know, if they’re going to build some, I just don’t think some crap, really. So I just just decided to put something out there, just kind of stop at least some real rubbish being built. But I really did want to compete with the Éminence design. There’s a single eighteen éminence, and if you do a few monsta that by putting in corner deflectors, it actually, I have to say still is better than the super scooper, the super super probably slightly under it, but yeah, a well molded eminent scoop of double racing is is can go on.




Replies:
Posted By: darrell
Date Posted: 14 May 2024 at 10:05am
Nice one, was was reading some things today about mods on superscoop seems not many people doing them


Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 14 May 2024 at 10:32am
Originally posted by darrell darrell wrote:

Nice one, was was reading some things today about mods on superscoop seems not many people doing them


The best driver in the Superscooper 18, was always the Void V18-1000.
No suprise, as both cab and driver designed by Rog.

Read through the Scoop Forum again, and you will see, there is a free plan, which performs great, with many of today's moderm drivers.

Which is also, even easier to mod.


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Posted By: darrell
Date Posted: 14 May 2024 at 11:29am
I know, I have some Fane B400 ready for some Fane Scaled up scoops
Not planning on making supers anytime



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