Admark AD 80
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Topic: Admark AD 80
Posted By: Elliot Thompson
Subject: Admark AD 80
Date Posted: 16 February 2026 at 11:19am
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I am surprised no one has mentioned this model.
8200 watts per channel @ 8 ohms 14000 watts per channel @ 4 ohms 11400 watts per channel @ 2 ohms
This is the second model that Admark has focused on maximum output power at 4 ohms per channel. It goes to show the 2 ohms per channel community is not as popular as many might believe.
Best Regards,
------------- Elliot Thompson
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Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 16 February 2026 at 11:55am
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Any internal pics?
Any details of output device type/count, power regulators rating/count/type. Max current draw per channel @ 4 ohms?
Some of us grown ups, are more impressed by these details, as opposed to Fantasy Island, 1khz output power ratings.
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Posted By: adamb00m
Date Posted: 16 February 2026 at 11:56am
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I just cant see the need for that much power (aside from headroom I suppose)... that's massive.
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Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 16 February 2026 at 12:01pm
adamb00m wrote:
I just cant see the need for that much power (aside from headroom I suppose)... that's massive. |
Assume max power output, 40-100hz, is actually 50-66% of published figures.
This rule covers 99% of lightweight amps.
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Posted By: Elliot Thompson
Date Posted: 16 February 2026 at 12:33pm
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No more information other than Admark's photo showing the actual amplifier on their test bench.
Having too much power is not the problem. The problem is those who do not know how to regulate the power to their speakers. Back in the 1990's many said the Crown 5000vz was too much power.
Surprisingly, the AD 80's power is not too far off from their AD 60 Model. My only concern is the voltage rails. Benching it would pose a challenge for those who don't have the proper resources for current capacity on a 4 ohm load feeding the amplifier a AC line source 240 volts.
If the wattage is based upon crest factor at 4 ohms per channel, the continuous average would be around 10,000 watts. Only time will tell until Admark decides to make the amplifier (and the manual) available to the public.
Best Regards,
------------- Elliot Thompson
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Posted By: adamb00m
Date Posted: 16 February 2026 at 12:44pm
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James Stance "Admark Man" on fakebook is selling them in the UK, the AD80 is priced at £1200 from him.
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Posted By: BrainlessTekno
Date Posted: 16 February 2026 at 12:55pm
How is it that 4ohm handles more watts than 2ohm? never seen that before
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Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 16 February 2026 at 1:03pm
BrainlessTekno wrote:
How is it that 4ohm handles more watts than 2ohm? never seen that before |
In previous years, it illustrated sub par PSU section, lacking the minerals, to draw the required current from the wall, and possibly really sub par smoothing reservoir.
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Posted By: taurusty
Date Posted: 16 February 2026 at 1:05pm
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morn, try dis... uploads/1989/AD_80_OM_2_??-???-101-A5-ADMARK??-2-4??K80-????-A1.pdf" rel="nofollow - uploads/1989/AD_80_OM_2_??-???-101-A5-ADMARK??-2-4??K80-????-A1.pdf
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Posted By: taurusty
Date Posted: 16 February 2026 at 1:07pm
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Disagree. Can also indicate highly regulated PSU. Most newer Crowns esp iTech have specs like this.
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Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 16 February 2026 at 2:21pm
taurusty wrote:
Disagree.Can also indicate highly regulated PSU. Most newer Crowns esp iTech have specs like this.
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At an amp test years ago, Void Infinite 8 MK2, stomped all over ITECH8, at 4 ohm, playing Reggae across 4 Scoops, despite ITECHs higher rating, on paper.
Admarks have proven to be substantial amps over the years, but just like all lightweights, don't expect them to truly provide the zillion watts output, they specify on paper.
Just hope for 50-66%, as mentioned previously.
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Posted By: Elliot Thompson
Date Posted: 16 February 2026 at 2:54pm
BrainlessTekno wrote:
How is it that 4ohm handles more watts than 2ohm? never seen that before |
This type of concept has been around for 50 years if not longer with Amplifiers. Professional and Home Consumer.
How the designer wants to implement the current limitations based on the load determines the end result.
Best Regards,
------------- Elliot Thompson
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Posted By: Elliot Thompson
Date Posted: 16 February 2026 at 2:57pm
taurusty wrote:
morn,try dis... uploads/1989/AD_80_OM_2_??-???-101-A5-ADMARK??-2-4??K80-????-A1.pdf" rel="nofollow - uploads/1989/AD_80_OM_2_??-???-101-A5-ADMARK??-2-4??K80-????-A1.pdf
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Dead Link
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Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 16 February 2026 at 3:04pm
Elliot Thompson wrote:
How the designer wants to implement the current limitations based on the load determines the end result.
Best Regards, |
Exactly what I was referring to earlier.
"Current Limiations".
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Posted By: APC321
Date Posted: 16 February 2026 at 4:14pm
BrainlessTekno wrote:
How is it that 4ohm handles more watts than 2ohm? never seen that before |
According to the A.I. description of the Admark AD 80:
"Note that power output at 2 ohms is lower than at 4 ohms, a specific design choice to handle impedance fluctuations rather than sustained 2-ohm loads."
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Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 16 February 2026 at 4:26pm
Not everyone will want to load up amp with 16ohm sub drivers, to obtain full output power, as 16 ohm sub drivers are hard to sell on, especially 21".
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Posted By: taurusty
Date Posted: 16 February 2026 at 5:25pm
Elliot Thompson wrote:
taurusty wrote:
morn,try dis... uploads/1989/AD_80_OM_2_??-???-101-A5-ADMARK??-2-4??K80-????-A1.pdf" rel="nofollow - uploads/1989/AD_80_OM_2_??-???-101-A5-ADMARK??-2-4??K80-????-A1.pdf
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Dead Link |
Dunno What I'm doing wrong, check & advise, please... uploads/1989/AD_80_OM_2026-02-16_17-24-53.pdf" rel="nofollow - uploads/1989/AD_80_OM_2026-02-16_17-24-53.pdf
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Posted By: Elliot Thompson
Date Posted: 16 February 2026 at 5:33pm
taurusty wrote:
Elliot Thompson wrote:
taurusty wrote:
morn,try dis... uploads/1989/AD_80_OM_2_??-???-101-A5-ADMARK??-2-4??K80-????-A1.pdf" rel="nofollow - uploads/1989/AD_80_OM_2_??-???-101-A5-ADMARK??-2-4??K80-????-A1.pdf
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Dead Link |
Dunno What I'm doing wrong, check & advise, please... uploads/1989/AD_80_OM_2026-02-16_17-24-53.pdf" rel="nofollow - uploads/1989/AD_80_OM_2026-02-16_17-24-53.pdf
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It works. Thank you!
Now we can all share our thoughts on this amplifier.
Best Regards,
------------- Elliot Thompson
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Posted By: Elliot Thompson
Date Posted: 16 February 2026 at 5:56pm
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My estimate was close enough.
Published Specs: 236 volts output @ 4 ohms (Crest Factor) 13924.00 My Estimate: 14000 watts @ 4 ohms (Crest Factor)
My Estimate was 10000 watts continuous average per channel on a 4 ohm load. The amplifier should hover around 9900 watts per channel continuous average based on the AD 80 Manual offered Taurusty on a 4 ohm load. Admark always used Crest Factor to rate their power. So expect less on Continuous Average Power.
The Peak rails should hover around 360 Volts (Possibly 400 volts with no load) with minimum sag into play @ 8 ohms. Around 330 volt rails with a sag @ 4 ohms (Crest Factor). Around 280 volt rails with a sag @ 4 ohms (Continuous Average).
The AD 80 is not Bridgeable.
I don't recall exactly where the biggest Powersoft lies in their rails at the moment. But, I do recall it fell within the 300 volt range.
This is a different league of amplifier and, you will definitely need to step up everything to get the most out of this amplifier.
Amperage drawn from a 240-volt Line Source (Based on Published Specifications) 4 ohms Stereo Mode Continuous Average: 82.5 Amps 4 ohms Stereo Mode Crest Factor: 116.0 Amps
Please. No, How can I use the Admark AD 80 on 120 volt line source questions
Best Regards,
------------- Elliot Thompson
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Posted By: Earplug
Date Posted: 17 February 2026 at 9:33am
Yes. How many speakers are there that could actually handle 1000's of real watts for more than a couple of mS, if that? It's all become a joke. 
This is a 2kW (heater) coil:--
These are speaker coils:--
Notice the difference?
I can't wait for the wonderfull day when Pro Audio finally returns to reality. I image not in my lifetime. Thank you car audio BS nonsense. 
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Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 17 February 2026 at 10:19am
Anyone else thinking the AD80, is just 4x channel with each pair of channels bridged?
Hence not bridgeable, and 2 ohm figures < 4 ohm figures?
I'm also thinking, this is way too much heat, power, packing density, for 1U.
The AD42, is well respected, and fairly proven.
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Posted By: Bremen_99
Date Posted: 17 February 2026 at 11:01am
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Yea ive had my eye on this ever since they released the teaser on their facebook page, had a price somewhere that it was 870$ ish dollars (I'll believe it when I see it) but before that my "dream" ideal upgrade amp was the admark ad-406, mostly because its galium and could squeeze out the last juice from a 20amp circuit but I very curious if from a purely sound quality perspective, is this going to sound better than previous crown/qsc/thomann or just gobs more powerful, at the risk of reliability... sounds like cvr might still be the way to go, there's less cap density on the 406 and it might be the better choice for my application even if its not as upgradable. Still like I said sure I mean personally wattage wise I'll be electrically limited before im amp limited so SQ is what I'm really curious about, some people say admark sounds better than cvr but they look the same inside. ad80 I think has some design improvements that might help with packing all those caps into a 1u but I don't want to gamble until others have gone before lol
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Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 17 February 2026 at 11:48am
adamb00m wrote:
James Stance "Admark Man" on fakebook is selling them in the UK, the AD80 is priced at £1200 from him. |
That is a hefty markup, on the price Admark is quoting, for shipping to UK, inc duty, to individuals.
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Posted By: adamb00m
Date Posted: 17 February 2026 at 3:00pm
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Yep - but many people are too cautious to buy via Alibaba - so he has a market.
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Posted By: taurusty
Date Posted: 17 February 2026 at 3:11pm
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Morning the AD 60 is the only Admark model I would never buy for sub duty. 2x bridged 430 modules plus less caps. When I saw the 80 & realized it t was not bridgeable I hope the change in form factor (2U) will now replace the lost caps & upgrade the cooling… Need to see one opened. As it stands, the AD42 is still the best choice IMO where speaker power handling matching & best use of rack space is concerned.
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Posted By: snowflake
Date Posted: 17 February 2026 at 6:03pm
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can't find this for sale anywhere. seem to be some instagram posts but not on alibaba or admark website as far as i can see.
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Posted By: Bremen_99
Date Posted: 17 February 2026 at 6:36pm
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I think you contact them through whatsapp. Ive never done it though, waiting until they are trialed and imported. Let us know if you do purchase it directly
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Posted By: adamb00m
Date Posted: 17 February 2026 at 8:28pm
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Find them on Alibaba - ONLY Aidi Audio Co Ltd (there are loads of others listing them, but this is the legit source).
Or contact the sales guy Daniel on whatsapp: tel:+86%20186%206600%202375" rel="nofollow - +86 186 6600 2375
They prefer WhatsApp and PayPal payment (so they avoid Alibaba fees I think), but will ask you to cover PayPal fees if you don’t pay via friends and family, or bank transfer - yes it all sound super fishy but all reports I can find say that’s just how they do business.
I just ordered 4 AD442s… but I did go via Alibaba in the end as the currency conversion (you pay in USD) on PayPal is shocking… made about £10 difference even after the discount they offer via WhatsApp - with a small ampunt of reassurance the Alibaba platform offers.
It’s Chinese new year this week (national holiday), so don’t expect any replies until next week.
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Posted By: adamb00m
Date Posted: 17 February 2026 at 8:33pm
Bremen_99 wrote:
I think you contact them through whatsapp. Ive never done it though, waiting until they are trialed and imported. Let us know if you do purchase it directly |
Look up James Stance on Facebook if you want to buy from someone that has imported them - I think he has the AD80 - but you will pay a premium of course (fair enough, he took the risk on the import transaction).
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Posted By: Bremen_99
Date Posted: 18 February 2026 at 12:55am
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Ill wait until next year qhen they are hopefully under 1k and after they blow up or not.. to be honest eyeing ad406 because LESS cap density, hence heat and more in it for the long haul.. but yea im definitely not giving some chump extra 350 just to import it for me I can text admark directly on whatsapp id be the guy importing it if anything...
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Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 18 February 2026 at 7:30am
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For the best price, contact Admark directly, through WhatsApp.
For peace of mind, pay through PayPal, using credit card, and pay fees.
No need for Alibaba, or anything else.
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Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 18 February 2026 at 7:35am
I've heard something, from an engineer, about the number of output devices, in AD80, that has turned me off this amp.
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Posted By: Earplug
Date Posted: 18 February 2026 at 8:43am
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Posted By: Bremen_99
Date Posted: 18 February 2026 at 9:11am
levyte357- wrote:
I've heard something, from an engineer, about the number of output devices, in AD80, that has turned me off this amp. |
You mean output stages? like more opamps/conversions? 
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Posted By: APC321
Date Posted: 18 February 2026 at 10:36am
Bremen_99 wrote:
im definitely not giving some chump extra 350 just to import it for me I can text admark directly on whatsapp id be the guy importing it if anything...
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Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 18 February 2026 at 11:07am
APC321 wrote:
I think you might find that importing amps is more complicated and expensive than it was back in the good old days. |
Not the case, with Admarks.
It really is as easy, as I mentioned previously, because I've done it myself.
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Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 18 February 2026 at 11:08am
Bremen_99 wrote:
levyte357- wrote:
I've heard something, from an engineer, about the number of output devices, in AD80, that has turned me off this amp. |
You mean output stages? like more opamps/conversions?  |
As in the number of output transistors per channel.
To quote the engineer, "They may be using some kind of super transistor, but it is a fire waiting to happen".
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Posted By: Elliot Thompson
Date Posted: 18 February 2026 at 12:14pm
Elliot Thompson wrote:
This is a different league of amplifier and, you will definitely need to step up everything to get the most out of this amplifier.
Amperage drawn from a 240-volt Line Source (Based on Published Specifications) 4 ohms Stereo Mode Continuous Average: 82.5 Amps 4 ohms Stereo Mode Crest Factor: 116.0 Amps
Please. No, How can I use the Admark AD 80 on 120 volt line source questions
Best Regards,
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I can say the majority will not have the resources to power this amplifier properly.
Take it from an Electrician!
Best Regards,
------------- Elliot Thompson
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Posted By: Earplug
Date Posted: 18 February 2026 at 1:15pm
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"I can say the majority will not have the resources to power this amplifier properly."
Undoubtedly. And never mind the extreme limiting that the thing with have to make sure it never actually comes anywhere near the published specs. They never do. I've seen "2000W/channel" amps with only 4 O/P devices in total. How the hell is that going to pass enough current? It's physics, not magyk!! 
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Posted By: Bremen_99
Date Posted: 18 February 2026 at 1:25pm
levyte357- wrote:
As in the number of output transistors per channel.
To quote the engineer, "They may be using some kind of super transistor, but it is a fire waiting to happen". |
Oh. I'm not an electrician, but looking inside that makes me feel uneasy as well as the rated 8k per side or whatever it is... on another note, I felt like making (another) potentially bad financial decision and ordered a "fulode t162p-fx" today from their amazon store... it was 199 shipped. My circuit can't handle much more the fulode is the cheapest GaN I could find, has had favorable reviews. Curiosity is getting the better of me, at least its not a rockville or soundtown , I think fulode was one of the better gruppen cloners
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Posted By: Elliot Thompson
Date Posted: 18 February 2026 at 2:12pm
Earplug wrote:
"I can say the majority will not have the resources to power this amplifier properly."
Undoubtedly. And never mind the extreme limiting that the thing with have to make sure it never actually comes anywhere near the published specs. They never do. I've seen "2000W/channel" amps with only 4 O/P devices in total. How the hell is that going to pass enough current? It's physics, not magyk!! 
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Once I calculated the Amperage on the Admark AD 80, it makes sense why Powersoft offered a 3-Phase option on their X 4L Model.
Best Regards,
------------- Elliot Thompson
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Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 18 February 2026 at 2:18pm
levyte357- wrote:
Anyone else thinking the AD80, is just 4x channel with each pair of channels bridged?
Hence not bridgeable, and 2 ohm figures < 4 ohm figures?
I'm also thinking, this is way too much heat, power, packing density, for 1U.
The AD42, is well respected, and fairly proven. |
THIS!!!
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Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 18 February 2026 at 2:25pm
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I have two problems with this. First is the look. Why the hell do they made it to look like Powersoft. I aint buying anything that looks like Powersoft but it actually isnt. Second. 14KW at 4 ohms is a lot of current for a Speakon connector. Regardless of their 40A rating i dont trust them with that much load.
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Posted By: Elliot Thompson
Date Posted: 18 February 2026 at 2:32pm
MarjanM wrote:
I have two problems with this.First is the look. Why the hell do they made it to look like Powersoft. I aint buying anything that looks like Powersoft but it actually isnt. Second. 14KW at 4 ohms is a lot of current for a Speakon connector. Regardless of their 40A rating i dont trust them with that much load. |
Output Current on the Loudspeaker outputs would be 60 A
Just consider cable requirements to pass through that amount of output power without any transmission loss. In addition to input AC voltage cable requirements.
Best Regards,
------------- Elliot Thompson
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Posted By: snowflake
Date Posted: 18 February 2026 at 2:34pm
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if you doubt the speakon rating it is very easily tested. use it as a power connector and plug some electric heaters in.
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Posted By: Lucasdude
Date Posted: 18 February 2026 at 3:29pm
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Isn't the Powercon basically a Speakon keyed differently? Aren't they rated for 20a?
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Posted By: snowflake
Date Posted: 18 February 2026 at 4:02pm
Lucasdude wrote:
Isn't the Powercon basically a Speakon keyed differently? Aren't they rated for 20a? |
powercons are rated at either 16A,20A, or 32A likely to correspond with common breaker ratings, rather than to reflect their true maximum current capability. As breakers can pass much higher currents for short periods the powercons will be designed to pass those for the specified time.
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Posted By: Sypa
Date Posted: 18 February 2026 at 4:33pm
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For this summer I'm gonna order 10 of these as I scraped the plans for getting an x8.
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Posted By: snowflake
Date Posted: 19 February 2026 at 2:31am
interesting comment on the sinbosen website:
https://www.sinbosenaudio.com/info/gan-material-applied-to-d-series-amplifiers-i00357i1.html" rel="nofollow - GaN material applied to D-series amplifiers! https://www.sinbosenaudio.com/info/gan-material-applied-to-d-series-amplifiers-i00357i1.html
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Posted By: Elliot Thompson
Date Posted: 23 February 2026 at 6:01am
snowflake wrote:
interesting comment on the sinbosen website:
https://www.sinbosenaudio.com/info/gan-material-applied-to-d-series-amplifiers-i00357i1.html" rel="nofollow - GaN material applied to D-series amplifiers! https://www.sinbosenaudio.com/info/gan-material-applied-to-d-series-amplifiers-i00357i1.html
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Interesting indeed.
Sinbosen's amplifiers has always had a strong Home Theater Market following from the days of the Lab Gruppen copies. Their marketing concept appears to be focusing heavily on Frequency Bandwidth (amongst other things) due to the GaN Topology. I am reading many are praising the Admark AD 42 over the Admark AD 60 despite, the Admark AD 42 offers no GaN topology whereas, the Admark AD 60 and, Admark AD 80 does.
So while GaN does offer more benefits than amplifiers offering non-GaN Topology, in the Professional Market, it does not seem to be what many Americans call "A Game Changer" causing an overwhelming difference in the end results.
Best Regards,
------------- Elliot Thompson
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Posted By: Plaguesguitarist
Date Posted: 05 March 2026 at 4:48pm
Elliot Thompson wrote:
I am surprised no one has mentioned this model.
8200 watts per channel @ 8 ohms 14000 watts per channel @ 4 ohms 11400 watts per channel @ 2 ohms
This is the second model that Admark has focused on maximum output power at 4 ohms per channel. It goes to show the 2 ohms per channel community is not as popular as many might believe.
Best Regards,
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And fitted with a 13A plug no doubt, being used on a Domestic ring main...
The only numbers you'll need is 999 for the Fire Brigade haha. 
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Posted By: Elliot Thompson
Date Posted: 06 March 2026 at 9:55am
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The connector can be replaced. That is the easy part. The AC Cable would play more a factor on how much tolerance it can withstand before thermal breakdown.
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Posted By: KDW32
Date Posted: 06 March 2026 at 12:03pm
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What feed does it need to run 32 or 63?
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Posted By: snowflake
Date Posted: 06 March 2026 at 1:01pm
KDW32 wrote:
What feed does it need to run 32 or 63? |
probably a 3mm2 power cord (that's what's on my biggest sinbosen) or possibly 4mm2 - so got to be a 32A breaker at most I would have thought. But you would really have to push it to trip a 20A D-type (or blow a 13A fuse).
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Posted By: Earplug
Date Posted: 06 March 2026 at 1:10pm
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I'd say that one of these would be more that enough, especially on USA 110v mains!!
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Posted By: Elliot Thompson
Date Posted: 06 March 2026 at 2:42pm
      
Elliot Thompson wrote:
Please. No, How can I use the Admark AD 80 on 120 volt line source questions
Best Regards,
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I recall someone powering up an AD 42. It took 20 seconds for it to turnover on 120-volt line source 
If that is not an indication that you don't have enough volts to feed the amplifier properly, I don't know what is. 
Best Regards,
------------- Elliot Thompson
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Posted By: adamb00m
Date Posted: 06 March 2026 at 2:44pm
Just got my AD442s - this is the plug that came on them (check out the fuse!)
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Posted By: Elliot Thompson
Date Posted: 06 March 2026 at 2:57pm
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At least you know it's enclosed in the plug. There may be someone scratching their head wondering why their AD 442 has no power.
Best Regards,
------------- Elliot Thompson
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Posted By: KDW32
Date Posted: 06 March 2026 at 3:00pm
Posted By: Earplug
Date Posted: 06 March 2026 at 3:07pm
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Where's Health & Safety when you need them!!
I guess, that at least it does have an Earth connected! That's a winner already!! 
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Posted By: adamb00m
Date Posted: 06 March 2026 at 3:13pm
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Also - despite the sheath print stating 3X6mm2 - it actually measures 4mm2
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Posted By: KDW32
Date Posted: 06 March 2026 at 3:23pm
Chop the 13 off of and fit a big cee form on it yeah? 
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Posted By: adamb00m
Date Posted: 06 March 2026 at 3:32pm
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The 13amp plugs are defo coming off yes.
Probably going to swap to 20amp powercon (if the wire will fit).
I'm not going to be hammering them, bridging or running into 2ohm loads... so 20amps should be fine I think.
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Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 06 March 2026 at 5:19pm
Apparently, Powersoft do not recommend sub on all channels of their X8, so I definitely wouldn't recommend it on a cheaper Chinese amp.
Now the X4L, entirely different beast..
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Posted By: madboffin
Date Posted: 06 March 2026 at 6:29pm
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That mains plug is a bit worrying. Probably illegal to import into the UK like that.
And a 30 amp plugtop fuse surely doesn't meet BS1362, so it's falsely marked.
(For the benefit of our friends in the USA, all British 13 amp plugs are fitted with an internal fuse, but 13A is the maximum allowable size)
This doesn't inspire much confidence in the product or its manufacturer...
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Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 06 March 2026 at 7:16pm
madboffin wrote:
That mains plug is a bit worrying. Probably illegal to import into the UK like that.
And a 30 amp plugtop fuse surely doesn't meet BS1362, so it's falsely marked.
(For the benefit of our friends in the USA, all British 13 amp plugs are fitted with an internal fuse, but 13A is the maximum allowable size)
This doesn't inspire much confidence in the product or its manufacturer...
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Even though the above is, basically true, my feedback from exhaustive research, of the "AD42s with non GaN devices", is, they are pretty much the best of their kind from China, and many Reggae dudes in US, Caribbean, have directly compared them to Powersoft K20s, in real gigs, attached to generators, and are very impressed with them.
Due to what I have heard about units with "GaN" output devices, I would not touch those with a barge pole.
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Posted By: snowflake
Date Posted: 06 March 2026 at 7:23pm
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they know everyone is going to change them for powercon or ceeform. But its illegal to supply with no plug and that's obvious on visual inspection.
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Posted By: adamb00m
Date Posted: 06 March 2026 at 9:50pm
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Even the sales guy said the plug is inadequate and should be changed, anyone using these as intended would change the plug - but at least it’s handy for an initial test (for me at least)… I can look past the obvious safety / legal issues in how they are delivered.
In tests they pull over 30amps, bridged just before clip - and do deliver the rated power for around 2.5 seconds - sinewave signal… they then drop to around 3.5k per channel into 4ohm… music isn’t a sinewave, and all class D amps behave like this and are rated the same way… behaves as I would expect.
Listening test so far - just running 2 x WS218X on 2 channels (2 18s per channel @ 4 ohm)… and compared to the Blue Aran Q10s I was using… and this is of course subjective… the bass is much rounder, and feels a lot lower somehow - the Q10s had a hard edge to the sound - loud but almost digital / choppy sound to them… overall I’m happy with the change and confident they deliver more than enough power to get the most out of my boxes.
The Admark gets the cones really moving, and I have only lit 3 of the signal LEDs so far… headroom for days in my use case.
To get this amount of power from name brand amps would cost 4X or more.
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Posted By: adamb00m
Date Posted: 06 March 2026 at 10:09pm
Amps installed in their new homes… obviously PDUs now need to be swapped out for a larger version.
The FFA 8004HDs are on mid-high duty and I’m also happy with them over the Blue Aran B8s I was using - very clean sound, lower noise floor.
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Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 07 March 2026 at 1:15am
levyte357- wrote:
Apparently, Powersoft do not recommend sub on all channels of their X8, so I definitely wouldn't recommend it on a cheaper Chinese amp.
Now the X4L, entirely different beast..
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We use 442 with subs on all channels all the time. No issue.
------------- Marjan Milosevic MM-Acoustics www.mm-acoustics.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/MM-Acoustics/608901282527713
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Posted By: snowflake
Date Posted: 07 March 2026 at 2:59am
adamb00m wrote:
Even the sales guy said the plug is inadequate and should be changed, anyone using these as intended would change the plug - but at least it’s handy for an initial test (for me at least)… I can look past the obvious safety / legal issues in how they are delivered.
In tests they pull over 30amps, bridged just before clip - and do deliver the rated power for around 2.5 seconds - sinewave signal… they then drop to around 3.5k per channel into 4ohm… music isn’t a sinewave, and all class D amps behave like this and are rated the same way… behaves as I would expect.
Listening test so far - just running 2 x WS218X on 2 channels (2 18s per channel @ 4 ohm)… and compared to the Blue Aran Q10s I was using… and this is of course subjective… the bass is much rounder, and feels a lot lower somehow - the Q10s had a hard edge to the sound - loud but almost digital / choppy sound to them… overall I’m happy with the change and confident they deliver more than enough power to get the most out of my boxes.
The Admark gets the cones really moving, and I have only lit 3 of the signal LEDs so far… headroom for days in my use case.
To get this amount of power from name brand amps would cost 4X or more.
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Using the AllDSP and running 21" drivers I found that putting a 5s attack compressor and some dynamic eq on the tuning frequency of the box for when the cone isn't moving much, the average power consumption was only about 20 amps. The right D type breaker will take several times rating for a few seconds. Played some really heavy jungle hitting the compressors and it still sounded great. They are designed with a good balance of peak vs average output for real music. Even the biggest voice coils are only taking 600W average real power and have significant thermal mass.
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Posted By: KDW32
Date Posted: 07 March 2026 at 3:45am
adamb00m wrote:
Amps installed in their new homes… obviously PDUs now need to be swapped out for a larger version.
The FFA 8004HDs are on mid-high duty and I’m also happy with them over the Blue Aran B8s I was using - very clean sound, lower noise floor.
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Looks very nice that does! 
I do wonder why Admark don't have a power con input on it. Should someone let them know?
That FFA will have a power con on it, the 10000 has two
I have C20 on back of our t604s
I wonder why Admark have a trailing lead and dodgy plug when other option are available
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Posted By: cravings
Date Posted: 07 March 2026 at 9:32am
are they the distros blue arran used to do?
and don't the admark cool front to back, and the ffa back to front.. so hot air exhausted from the admarks will be sucked in to the ffa. keep an eye on that maybe.
but look very tidy. good job.
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Posted By: Elliot Thompson
Date Posted: 07 March 2026 at 10:17am
madboffin wrote:
That mains plug is a bit worrying. Probably illegal to import into the UK like that.
And a 30 amp plugtop fuse surely doesn't meet BS1362, so it's falsely marked.
(For the benefit of our friends in the USA, all British 13 amp plugs are fitted with an internal fuse, but 13A is the maximum allowable size)
This doesn't inspire much confidence in the product or its manufacturer...
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Thanks for that tit bit!
I recall when I bought my K 30 years ago, I had an option of plugs based on the Voltage Requirements. I would not be surprised if Admark offered a no connector as an option on their models as well.
Best Regards,
------------- Elliot Thompson
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Posted By: KDW32
Date Posted: 07 March 2026 at 2:38pm
cravings wrote:
are they the distros blue arran used to do?
and don't the admark cool front to back, and the ffa back to front.. so hot air exhausted from the admarks will be sucked in to the ffa. keep an eye on that maybe.
but look very tidy. good job. |
 proper good advice
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Posted By: Earplug
Date Posted: 07 March 2026 at 3:37pm
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"so hot air exhausted from the admarks will be sucked in to the ffa. keep an eye on that maybe."
Yes - very important point when mixing amps in a rack.
------------- Earplugs Are For Wimps!
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Posted By: adamb00m
Date Posted: 07 March 2026 at 4:06pm
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Penn Elcom distro- but not big enough for this combo of amps - need to replace.
And yes, you are correct on the fan flow, which I didn’t even think to check before purchasing, and I have almost cooked amps like that before - but it was a berry ep2500 and I wasn’t that worried about the warranty, so I just flipped the fans around in the case, which solved the problem and it never had heat issues again.
I’m bit more cautious of doing that with the FFAs… my plan is to make some kind of air guide at the back of the rack…
Once I swap the distro there will be a 1U gap between the Admarks and the FFA - which is the space I will use for the air guide.
Hopefully that will keep it under control - bloody annoying though.
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Posted By: adamb00m
Date Posted: 11 March 2026 at 10:32pm
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Ordered a Powercon plug (NAC3FXXB-W-L) to test if the wire will fit, it does, but it’s a tight fit, which surprises me as it the spec sheet for the plug says 2.5mm max, and the wires measure 4mm - but heyho, they are rated to 20amps, and I think that’s will cover my use - will see how we go.
Hopefully the thermal trip switches on the Penn-Elcom PDUs are happy with short peaks over 16amps per bank if ever required (changed to the 32amp PDU with 8 powercon outputs - split into two banks, with a max load of 16amps per bank).
Had an exchange with Dave at FFA regarding fan flow… he said it’s unlikely to cause any issues.
I’ll still be making some kind of air guide to direct the exhaust from the AD442s down and away from the FFA intake.
To be fair, even after a few hours use, the air coming out of the Admarks doesn’t feel hot, or even heated… but not given them truly hard use running all channels at 4ohm yet.
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Posted By: cravings
Date Posted: 12 March 2026 at 1:32am
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apologies if you've considered this.. but are you measuring wire diameter, when the figures given on cables are for cross sectional area (mm squared)?
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Posted By: adamb00m
Date Posted: 12 March 2026 at 8:09am
Posted By: cravings
Date Posted: 12 March 2026 at 11:15am
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nope. if you go back to my earlier days on here, someone pointed this out to me too heh.
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Posted By: djkeet
Date Posted: 13 March 2026 at 12:23am
Elliot Thompson wrote:
My estimate was close enough.
Published Specs: 236 volts output @ 4 ohms (Crest Factor) 13924.00 My Estimate: 14000 watts @ 4 ohms (Crest Factor)
My Estimate was 10000 watts continuous average per channel on a 4 ohm load. The amplifier should hover around 9900 watts per channel continuous average based on the AD 80 Manual offered Taurusty on a 4 ohm load. Admark always used Crest Factor to rate their power. So expect less on Continuous Average Power.
The Peak rails should hover around 360 Volts (Possibly 400 volts with no load) with minimum sag into play @ 8 ohms. Around 330 volt rails with a sag @ 4 ohms (Crest Factor). Around 280 volt rails with a sag @ 4 ohms (Continuous Average).
The AD 80 is not Bridgeable.
I don't recall exactly where the biggest Powersoft lies in their rails at the moment. But, I do recall it fell within the 300 volt range.
This is a different league of amplifier and, you will definitely need to step up everything to get the most out of this amplifier.
Amperage drawn from a 240-volt Line Source (Based on Published Specifications) 4 ohms Stereo Mode Continuous Average: 82.5 Amps 4 ohms Stereo Mode Crest Factor: 116.0 Amps
Please. No, How can I use the Admark AD 80 on 120 volt line source questions
Best Regards,
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So its looking like 240V 3Phase 63A min no less and on 120V 100A
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Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 13 March 2026 at 12:02pm
Maybe we should consider, how many output devices, are in the AD80, and physical current draw/storage capacity of the PSU(s), before reading too deeply into published specs.
------------- Global Depopulation - Alive and Killing.
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Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 13 March 2026 at 12:10pm
Elliot Thompson wrote:
snowflake wrote:
interesting comment on the sinbosen website:
https://www.sinbosenaudio.com/info/gan-material-applied-to-d-series-amplifiers-i00357i1.html" rel="nofollow - GaN material applied to D-series amplifiers! https://www.sinbosenaudio.com/info/gan-material-applied-to-d-series-amplifiers-i00357i1.html
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Interesting indeed.
Sinbosen's amplifiers has always had a strong Home Theater Market following from the days of the Lab Gruppen copies. Their marketing concept appears to be focusing heavily on Frequency Bandwidth (amongst other things) due to the GaN Topology. I am reading many are praising the Admark AD 42 over the Admark AD 60 despite, the Admark AD 42 offers no GaN topology whereas, the Admark AD 60 and, Admark AD 80 does.
So while GaN does offer more benefits than amplifiers offering non-GaN Topology, in the Professional Market, it does not seem to be what many Americans call "A Game Changer" causing an overwhelming difference in the end results.
Best Regards,
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Which is why I'm on the fence regarding the AD60, and AD80.
------------- Global Depopulation - Alive and Killing.
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Posted By: snowflake
Date Posted: 13 March 2026 at 6:57pm
just got one of these which will run a rack of 3 amps and link to another rack of three amps.
https://www.thomann.co.uk/botex_psa_322_6_dl.htm" rel="nofollow - Botex PSA 322-6 DL – Thomann UK
the 32A on the back can be turned upside down so that the flap doesn't go higher than the top of the unit. RCBOs are 16A C-type. Incomer is 6mm2. Internal wiring seems to be 4mm2 and 2.5mm2 so should be okay to swap some of the breakers for 20A D-type if needed. Might see if I can mount something more useful in the schuko socket cutouts.
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Posted By: Elliot Thompson
Date Posted: 14 March 2026 at 12:50pm
levyte357- wrote:
Elliot Thompson wrote:
snowflake wrote:
interesting comment on the sinbosen website:
https://www.sinbosenaudio.com/info/gan-material-applied-to-d-series-amplifiers-i00357i1.html" rel="nofollow - GaN material applied to D-series amplifiers! https://www.sinbosenaudio.com/info/gan-material-applied-to-d-series-amplifiers-i00357i1.html
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Interesting indeed.
Sinbosen's amplifiers has always had a strong Home Theater Market following from the days of the Lab Gruppen copies. Their marketing concept appears to be focusing heavily on Frequency Bandwidth (amongst other things) due to the GaN Topology. I am reading many are praising the Admark AD 42 over the Admark AD 60 despite, the Admark AD 42 offers no GaN topology whereas, the Admark AD 60 and, Admark AD 80 does.
So while GaN does offer more benefits than amplifiers offering non-GaN Topology, in the Professional Market, it does not seem to be what many Americans call "A Game Changer" causing an overwhelming difference in the end results.
Best Regards,
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Which is why I'm on the fence regarding the AD60, and AD80.
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The AD 80 is too new to receive concrete feedback from end users. The AD 60 is optimized for 4 ohm per channel stereo. For the user that must use 2 ohms per channel, the AD 60 will not fit their requirements. For the user that will never use 2 ohms per channel, the AD 60 gives you the most power for your dollar @ 4 ohms per channel in the entire Admark line that offers a model number lower than the AD 60.
Best Regards,
------------- Elliot Thompson
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