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final loaded inpedence of 8r ciares

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Topic: final loaded inpedence of 8r ciares
Posted By: VPAS
Subject: final loaded inpedence of 8r ciares
Date Posted: 30 July 2007 at 12:28pm
what is the load likley to be on the 8r ciares after horn loading has occured in the punishers?

any ideads?

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Posted By: kpippen
Date Posted: 30 July 2007 at 3:38pm

Hello VPAS,

Hornresp indicates 5.0 acoustical ohms X 0.2763

 
Hope this helps!
 
Kevin
 


Posted By: VPAS
Date Posted: 30 July 2007 at 5:29pm
cheers for the info kevin but it dosnt make any sense to me, can you explain

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Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 30 July 2007 at 5:29pm
Is that for 4 ohm drivers? I've been assuming a 10r load per cab when loaded with 8r drivers.


Posted By: VPAS
Date Posted: 30 July 2007 at 5:34pm
that what i was thinking which would be beneficial if i go with the i-tech's because of the output drop between 4 and 2 ohms, mite be able to squeeze enough power for 3 a side

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Posted By: kpippen
Date Posted: 30 July 2007 at 7:11pm
Hi guys,
 
The plot I posted earlier was for the acoustical impedance of a Punisher loaded with the Ciare 12.00SW 8-ohm driver... Here is what Hornresp says about Acoustical Impedance under the help menu...Smile
 
 
Hope this helps!
 
Kevin


Posted By: kpippen
Date Posted: 30 July 2007 at 7:44pm
Originally posted by toastyghost toastyghost wrote:

Is that for 4 ohm drivers? I've been assuming a 10r load per cab when loaded with 8r drivers.
 
Hello ToastyGoast,
 
Your pretty close to being correct if you have 8-ohms figured into your assumption (8 + 1.3815 = 9.3815)... The actual RE value for the Ciare 12.00SW 8-ohm coil is 6.73-ohms...Smile
 
Kevin


Posted By: soundsystemdan
Date Posted: 30 July 2007 at 8:45pm
I think the bit we're interested in is electrical impedance.

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Posted By: kpippen
Date Posted: 30 July 2007 at 9:08pm
Originally posted by soundsystemdan soundsystemdan wrote:

I think the bit we're interested in is electrical impedance.
 
Here's your bit... The SPL Response can be seen http://www.speakerplans.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11044 - here ...Wink
 
 
Kevin


Posted By: soundsystemdan
Date Posted: 30 July 2007 at 9:36pm
Nice one.
(don't why I invloved myself in this thread, anyway...)

Is it possible to change the y scale so it only reads 0-20 ohms? bit hard to read it as it is.


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Posted By: mstep77
Date Posted: 30 July 2007 at 9:49pm
alright mate,
 
Search the forum a bit, i always thought the 8r ciares ended up showing the amp 6r on a punisher because of the way the driver is loaded, so 3 in parallel would be 2r shown the amp.
 
Matt


Posted By: kpippen
Date Posted: 30 July 2007 at 10:54pm
Originally posted by kpippen kpippen wrote:

The actual RE value for the Ciare 12.00SW 8-ohm coil is 6.73-ohms...Smile
 
Kevin
 
Hello Matt,
 
I could be on the wrong page here,...but I'd imagine that it would show the amp 6.73 ohms NOT including the insertion loss of the speaker cable...
 
Kevin
 
 


Posted By: kpippen
Date Posted: 30 July 2007 at 11:00pm
Originally posted by soundsystemdan soundsystemdan wrote:

Is it possible to change the y scale so it only reads 0-20 ohms? bit hard to read it as it is.
 
Hello sondsystemdan,
 
Even though it would be nice...I don't think that feature is available within Hornresp...Cry
 
Kevin
 
 


Posted By: tb_mike
Date Posted: 06 August 2007 at 2:55am
Originally posted by kpippen kpippen wrote:

Originally posted by soundsystemdan soundsystemdan wrote:

Is it possible to change the y scale so it only reads 0-20 ohms? bit hard to read it as it is.
 
Hello sondsystemdan,
 
Even though it would be nice...I don't think that feature is available within Hornresp...Cry
 
Kevin
 
 
 
I think its possible.You could always export the data and use excel anyway.


Posted By: abrupt
Date Posted: 10 August 2007 at 5:49pm
so if you had 2 punishers running in parallel what would this be


Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 10 August 2007 at 8:11pm
Originally posted by abrupt abrupt wrote:

so if you had 2 punishers running in parallel what would this be


I've been working off the rough assumption of 5 ohms, if they're loaded with 8 ohm Ciares.


Posted By: abrupt
Date Posted: 10 August 2007 at 8:48pm
will most amps run stable at this


Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 10 August 2007 at 9:06pm
I've only run them off Infinite 8v2, and briefly from a bridged QSC RMX4050HD which just wasn't enough juice.

It's above 4 ohm stereo, so I don't see why not. Best to get confirmation from someone else though.



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