birmingham promoters/sound men
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Topic: birmingham promoters/sound men
Posted By: massai warrior
Subject: birmingham promoters/sound men
Date Posted: 23 September 2007 at 8:23pm
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those promotors in birmingham (sound men) are a funny lot. i remember a few years ago i bought a live session cd of iration stepper and jah voice one was in leeds & one was in manchester a jah voice started an argument on both occations the one in manchester was about iration stepper playing more music than they were supposed to have played it turned in to quite a huge argument to what i heard on the cd (was any one at this dance who can shed more light on exactly what happend) anyway i was at the session jah voice & word sound & power and jah voice acused word sound and power of playing more music than they should have (i thought oh dear here we go) i must say word sound and power never did play to much music i think jah voice made a big mistake as they were going outside when it wasn't their turn to play music so never really knew what was going on due to them not being in the hall, anyway again i went to the jah voice and makaya dance nearing the end a argument broke out again i then thought what is wrong with these guys (jah voice) that is i cant go to much into what was said but this is what i thought was very bad at near the end of the dance it was supose to be each sound playing one record each jah voice though played two records, i thought thats a bit rude considering the arguments they had previously with word sound and power and the arguments i heard on the two cds i bought, the worse part about the makaya and jah voice was the owner of jah voice after playing more records than he should have then walked over to makayas sound and told them that if they played one more record then they will never be booked again in that hall, i thought bloody hell is that how you treat people, any way again i was at the dance last night earthquake jah hammer and quwontro and quwontro played a record that earthquake had already played then the promoter ran into the hall and told them that they must not do that, my god i thought what is wrong with these guys in birmingham. IF YOU BIRMINGHAM PROMOTERS ARE READING THIS YOU NEED TO SORT YOUR SELVES OUT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you cant have it both ways ------------- peace |
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Posted By: PISSHEAD
Date Posted: 23 September 2007 at 9:18pm
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I was there at that Jah Voice meets WSP and believe that WSP being visitors to WAR-SALL should have played on longer or had a longer time slot. I mean they traveled all the way from London and people like me have never seen them before so, we should be able to absorb more vibes from them they are the guests. It's should be common courtesy of a resident sound (in this case Jah Voice) to acknowledge this. Instead we see this 'undercover competitiveness' that is going on. Promoters should keep out of these 'undercover competitiveness' after all they are just business men out for a quick buck. I mean they can't ban every sound or they would go bust but I think in this case it's 'conflict of interest' . |
Posted By: PISSHEAD
Date Posted: 23 September 2007 at 9:43pm
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I also believe that the 3 sounds should not of played in the arena. Jah Hammer should of played with Earthquake only. 'Papa' Quantro being a veteran sound should of played with another veteran sound. Someone like Quaker city. ------------- The 'drunken master' strikes again. |
Posted By: Headbanger
Date Posted: 23 September 2007 at 10:08pm
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HOW LONG SHOULD A SOUND SYSTEM EXIST BEFORE IT IS TERMED A VETERAN??
IF A SOUND HAS A NAME BUT DOES NOT PLAY OUT FROM ONE YEAR TO THE NEXT, WHAT THEN?? YOU ARE TRODDING A DANGEROUS MINEFIELD OF REASONING. TO ME ANY SOUND WHO HAS BEEN GOING MANY YEARS AND IS GETTING WORK IS TO BE COMMENDED, THAT IS SUCCESS !! PLEASE DONT KNOCK OR PENSION OFF OUR SUCCESSFUL SOUNDS...........
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Posted By: Headbanger
Date Posted: 23 September 2007 at 10:17pm
| I'M AFRAID THE PROMOTER/SOUNDMAN AND THEIR FRIENDS ISSUE IS THE FUTURE OF THIS BUSINESS, IF YOU CANT BREAK INTO THE 3 RING CIRCUS, MAKE YOUR OWN CIRCUS, AT LEAST YOU CAN GET TO PERFORM !!! |
Posted By: True Talk
Date Posted: 24 September 2007 at 10:15am
Getting back to the promoter, we don't know what was said before the dance started by the promoter and what rules were put in place. So sorry mate I have to be on the promoters side he is the one who has put it together and if he feels another sound is doing something which is not to be done in the session then that sound should be told, and there was a lot that was done and said by Quontro which should not have been done. do you want to get back to the days when sound systems physically had a go at each other. but maybe you like the waring and clashing thing which can ruin a session so you can talk about it on the forum, all in all the session was well attended and enjoyable most of the time one thing that came out of the session was Jah Hamma a new sound who played well.
I would like to hear the promoter's view on what was said between him and Quantro, I saw him go over but with all the noise who knows what he said and for you to have heard what he said you must have been behind the sound playing the music or at least next to the sound.
So Mr. Promoter if you can reply I am sure Mr Massai Warrior and I would appreciate it.
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massai warrior wrote:Posted By: True Talk
Date Posted: 24 September 2007 at 10:21am
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Posted By: King Simeon
Date Posted: 24 September 2007 at 10:33am
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I haven't checked Quantro yet, good to see them getting sessions all over. Heard they told Tubbys they'd been around for longer than him and all sorts of talk on the mic in southend.
A bit embarrassing as Tubbys said in the near 30yrs in sound he only played the originals once, under a different name and recognised none of them in the recent dance, different generation. Sounds like they play like Touch Above, where they got to?
Not sure about the clash talk, but it's not a bad thing to get more people in the dance. In truth, as was mentioned, if they dont carry so much dubs in the dance they may struggle. Music does the talking!! I'm sure their on top of it, respect to them for stepping right in there.
It sounds a bit crazy in B'ham. It's good to see so many promotions, and new sounds. But again its the music that has to do the business, to take sounds further.
It's not a promoters business to intefere with any sounds selection. All in all sounds have to have their own plans/music/agenda and to stick to it, rising above the politics. Look at history and it tells you this, fundamentally its down to the music and the message/vibes of the sound. A little note on the 'Character' talk of sounds. It is very important to have this, combined with a good sound and good music, that it was makes a successful sound. Versitilty comes with music selection.
All in all it's a good time for sounds right now, despite some of the pettyness going on. Its a time for the newer sounds to mark they're place, and to push the newer producers out there.
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Posted By: True Talk
Date Posted: 24 September 2007 at 11:48am
Back in the days that may have been the norm but we are living in the 21st century one would have hope we would have progress at least a little bit.
If Earthquake had said" played by him one and no one else had it" and he played the same tune back to prove a point then fair enough Earthquake would have put him self in a position that warranted that.
but the dance was about your own selection not some one else's lets say for instance there was a problem and a fight broke out and some one was injured ambulance and police had to come to the session is that not the responsibility of the promoter and security to use there judgment and make sure everything is done correctly.
your going to say will never happen in a roots dance but if enough is said and done who knows at the end of the day the people behind the set have feeling and disrespecting and trying to get a reaction from a next sound is not on, then picking on the other sound because you did not get a reaction from your intended adversary for me that not on, GOOD ON YOU BUSH KEEP YOUR PROMOTION GOING IN THE RIGHT WAY.
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Posted By: DUBPLATE
Date Posted: 24 September 2007 at 11:56am
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i not saying it ina disrespect full way so no argument i saying it cause of wat you said above which make sense (depending on how one interpret what your saying)
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Posted By: True Talk
Date Posted: 24 September 2007 at 11:59am
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Posted By: Headbanger
Date Posted: 24 September 2007 at 1:20pm
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NEXT SESSION..... QUANTRO MEETS JAH VOICE MEETS IRATION STEPPAS !!! WHEN ALL IS SAID AND DONE, WOULD ANY OF YOU GO TO THAT DANCE ?? OF COURSE YOU WOULD!!
WE CAN BE HIGH AND MIGHTY ON HERE, BUT TRUTHLY WE WOULD WAIT TO SEE WHO WOULD LIGHT THE BLUE TOUCH PAPER!!!! CAUSE SOME SERIOUS MUSIC WOULD BE BUILT FOR THAT NIGHT. DONT BE HYPOCRTIES :-)
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Posted By: True Talk
Date Posted: 24 September 2007 at 2:03pm
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Posted By: mskeete
Date Posted: 24 September 2007 at 4:56pm
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I've heard Iration and Jah voice exchange words a few times recently like at the wembley dance but it has always returned to a peace and love vibe and ended calmly
I don't mind a bit of friendly competition like sound x plays a certain artist and sound y asks sound x if they want to go one fe one with that artist - anything like that adds a bit of excitement no need for it to go any further
I can't remember the last time I left my house to go to a roots / dub session and worried that I might have to watch my back, step on someones foot and end up in a fight or have to move from two people fighting and I'd like it to stay like that
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Posted By: wasup
Date Posted: 24 September 2007 at 6:25pm
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Soundz like dancehall to me!
I went to a KING SHILO dance end of last year and was repeatedly molested by two people.........Cannot say they was involved but the promotor or sound who run things there ......HERBSOUND self confessed nuber one in holland sent these people to haras me with violence..This went on half the evening i did my best to ignore them..Nothing was done untill i retaliated[shame on me] Only then were the people in question REMOVED..Imight add not me...
Ok what did i do ? well till this day still a mystery never seen heard or spoke to these people.Only hope Shilo wasnt involved mind you listening to this thread makes you wonder!! IS it the roots or danchall or just WICKED PEOPLE????
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Posted By: Ras Elder
Date Posted: 26 September 2007 at 10:18am
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Bush !!! tell the world what you told Quantro... are you going to book him again???
I was not there, is it true he won a Cup in a clash, and paraded it in the dance?
We in London DEMAND answers !!!
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Posted By: DUBPLATE
Date Posted: 27 September 2007 at 12:48pm
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Posted By: mskeete
Date Posted: 27 September 2007 at 1:19pm
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which year did they win a cup
England won the footbal world cup in 1966...........
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Posted By: Beez
Date Posted: 27 September 2007 at 1:51pm
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http://www.jwp.freeuk.com/html/uk_dub_cup.html ------------- http://www.myspace.com/fablesoundsystem |
Posted By: Headbanger
Date Posted: 27 September 2007 at 3:08pm
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RESPECT TO THE MAN FOR HAVING THE COURAGE TO COMPETE AND THEN WIN. A PERSON CAN GO THROUGH THEIR WHOLE LIFE, BE FULFILLED ETC, BUT NEVER WIN A THING.
THOSE WHO HAVE NEVER COMPETED AND WON, WOULD NEVER UNDERSTAND.
THAT WAS THEN, THIS IS NOW..... WE HAVE EVOLVED !! WE WANT TO UNITE NOT FIGHT !!!
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Posted By: Freddy Hopper
Date Posted: 04 October 2007 at 11:18pm
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I have been to 3 clashes this year. 1 at the Uk Cup Clash Stratford Rex (Dancehall)and 2 at the Walsall Community Centre (Roots)
The better vibe and friendlyer atmosphere was at the Dancehall Clash
as the people understand the vibe of Clash. It is total entertainment.
The Roots clashes seem a bit too serious, there seems to be a hiding behind a righteous message. Clash is about ego, domination and fun. It has been that way since the beginning, and sounds should banter, Should have rules, and should play to win.
Reggae has always been about loudness and outgoingness. Thats why it has so many unique styles and voices.
I THINK A PUNISHMENT RULE FOR ANYONE WHO IS TAKING A CLASH TOO SERIOUS IS
TO BE MADE TO WEAR AN OVERSIZED CLIK SUIT TO REMIND THEM OF THE HISTORY OF CLASH. ------------- TAIL LIFT |
Posted By: TONY.A.S.S.
Date Posted: 04 October 2007 at 11:36pm
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Music, whatever form it takes should be rewarding, which means it doesn't matter whether it makes you happy or makes you cry. It has always been source of pleasure, enjoyment and entertainment. Seriousness and strange attitudes have no place in music. ------------- http://www.facebook.com/tony.rossell.3" rel="nofollow - http://www.facebook.com/tony.rossell.3 |